Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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My expectations are tempered, I will take issue with anyone that that is how you defend on a 2 on 1.
Rathbone is the only draft pick I have ever gotten that I wanted, other than a few obvious ones, Linden, Sedins.
I spent my whole playing life as a checking winger or a defenseman.
On that particular play, Rathbone over commits to McDavid, the puck carrier, leaving Draisaitl wide open, a goalies worst nightmare.
It is his 1st game hopefully the coaching staff addresses any defensive issues with Rathbone and don't leave it unaddressed like they do with Hughes. - Reubenkincade
They should have benched Miller after he gave Edmonton 3 goals. Consistancy is lacking in that organization in so many areas. |
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My expectations are tempered, I will take issue with anyone that that is how you defend on a 2 on 1.
Rathbone is the only draft pick I have ever gotten that I wanted, other than a few obvious ones, Linden, Sedins.
I spent my whole playing life as a checking winger or a defenseman.
On that particular play, Rathbone over commits to McDavid, the puck carrier, leaving Draisaitl wide open, a goalies worst nightmare.
It is his 1st game hopefully the coaching staff addresses any defensive issues with Rathbone and don't leave it unaddressed like they do with Hughes. - Reubenkincade
Overcommit? Nope. Goalies job is to expect the pass on any 2 on 1, unless his Dman blatantly takes away the pass, in which case the shot is high danger and no different than a breakaway. By why give the shooter those odds? On any 2 on 1 you have to make a decision at some point to try to eliminate the pass. Most defenders with hold back until around the hash marks and right when the puck handler is about to make a decision, the DMan makes his move and tries to catch the puck carrier off guard, which is what Rathbone tried to do. Smart move IMO in an otherwise extremely difficult situation. |
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They should have benched Miller after he gave Edmonton 3 goals. Consistancy is lacking in that organization in so many areas. - Marwood
Clean house please Francesco |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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They should have benched Miller after he gave Edmonton 3 goals. Consistancy is lacking in that organization in so many areas. - Marwood
Man I wish you were our coach and GM - I'd love seeing the trades, firings, benchings, a brand new team every month and half. |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Man I wish you were our coach and GM - I'd love seeing the trades, firings, benchings, a brand new team every month and half. - Brooks_Light
Ya, it would suck to see some accountability. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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The Rangers even said they were rebuilding and that didn't give them instant success either. |
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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Thanks Carol |
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Getting rid of the rebuild GM to bring in the GM who can make you competitive, boy wouldn't that have been a good idea for Van to do. - NorthNuck
So bringing in a new GM also guarantees instant success? ππ |
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Load Management
Season Ticket Holder Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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Overcommit? Nope. Goalies job is to expect the pass on any 2 on 1, unless his Dman blatantly takes away the pass, in which case the shot is high danger and no different than a breakaway. By why give the shooter those odds? On any 2 on 1 you have to make a decision at some point to try to eliminate the pass. Most defenders with hold back until around the hash marks and right when the puck handler is about to make a decision, the DMan makes his move and tries to catch the puck carrier off guard, which is what Rathbone tried to do. Smart move IMO in an otherwise extremely difficult situation. - Brooks_Light
No, it isn't. Goalies take the shooter. Dman is responsible for preventing the pass. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Overcommit? Nope. Goalies job is to expect the pass on any 2 on 1, unless his Dman blatantly takes away the pass, in which case the shot is high danger and no different than a breakaway. By why give the shooter those odds? On any 2 on 1 you have to make a decision at some point to try to eliminate the pass. Most defenders with hold back until around the hash marks and right when the puck handler is about to make a decision, the DMan makes his move and tries to catch the puck carrier off guard, which is what Rathbone tried to do. Smart move IMO in an otherwise extremely difficult situation. - Brooks_Light
This is how I saw it. He kept macdavid honest and then tried to eliminate the pass. If he didnβt shade towards Macjesus the puck would have been in the net before Benning could say and stuff |
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VanHockeyGuy
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Location: βWho are we to think weβre anybody?β - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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So bringing in a new GM also guarantees instant success? ππ - manvanfan
Let's see where the next decade takes us. |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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So bringing in a new GM also guarantees instant success? ππ - manvanfan
No, but keeping the one who has been retooling on the fly while staying competitive and getting the same sh*tty results after 8 years doesn't guarantee success either. |
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No, it isn't. Goalies take the shooter. Dman is responsible for preventing the pass. - Load Management
Thank you. |
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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So bringing in a new GM also guarantees instant success? ππ - manvanfan
No, but I think we can all agree different managers have different skillsets. Would you rather have JB or Gillis for drafting? What about when you're going for the cup?
It feels a bit premature on the Rangers part, but as was referenced in the article, they might want the new guy to be in charge of the exit interviews so he can get a better grasp on what changes need to be made. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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No, but keeping the one who has been retooling on the fly while staying competitive and getting the same sh*tty results after 8 years doesn't guarantee success either. - Marwood
At this point, and given the body of work done in the last 7-8 years, I think its less of a gamble to take the route of new management than it is continuing on with this trend and trajectory. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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No, but keeping the one who has been retooling on the fly while staying competitive and getting the same sh*tty results after 8 years doesn't guarantee success either. - Marwood
So its like the grass is greener on the otherside to get over there to be potentially disappointed again that its not. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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So its like the grass is greener on the otherside to get over there to be potentially disappointed again that its not. - manvanfan
We are standing in a gravel pit right now |
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No, it isn't. Goalies take the shooter. Dman is responsible for preventing the pass. - Load Management
Obviously the goalie lines up to the shooter but I said "they should be expecting the pass." Which is what Holtby did and got across quite easily to make the save. The Dman should try to prevent the pass and lead the shooter OVER as much as possible towards the face-off dot into a low percentage scoring area - ei. forcing the pass. Again, Rathbone played it very well considering the situation and most importantly the players involved. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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No, but I think we can all agree different managers have different skillsets. Would you rather have JB or Gillis for drafting? What about when you're going for the cup?
It feels a bit premature on the Rangers part, but as was referenced in the article, they might want the new guy to be in charge of the exit interviews so he can get a better grasp on what changes need to be made. - NorthNuck
Certainly GMs are different. I would rather have JB drafting.
I wouldn't want to have a GM that can't draft and mortgage the future again for a team that isnt ready for a cup. |
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Thank you. - Reubenkincade
nope - also wrong |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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So its like the grass is greener on the otherside to get over there to be potentially disappointed again that its not. - manvanfan
There's always a risk or we can stay safe and keep being disappointed year after year. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Thanks Carol! Stay safe everyone and listen to your local health authorities ! - CanuckDon
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