There's always a risk or we can stay safe and keep being disappointed year after year.
- Marwood

Weren't disappointed last season.

nope - also wrong
- Brooks_Light

Lol

Weren't disappointed last season.
- manvanfan

They really weren't very good last season either, unless you are basing this solely on the 19 games played in the thingy.

- LordHumungous

That’s a hilarious gif. Live look at VHG’s ranch

Lol
- Reubenkincade

Just to be clear, you think Rath should have shaded towards Drai and given macdavid a clear lane to the net? I really hope this isn’t what you are saying as I’ll have to flag you for gross incompetence

This is how I saw it. He kept macdavid honest and then tried to eliminate the pass. If he didn’t shade towards Macjesus the puck would have been in the net before Benning could say and stuff
- CanuckDon

Exactly - if he shades towards Leon and completely takes away the pass it practically gives McD a (unnecessary) breakaway - the % of scoring goes up drastically. If the D tries to force a pass the chances of the offence fawking up becomes greater.

Weren't disappointed last season.
- manvanfan

The goaltending was good.

Exactly - if he shades towards Leon and completely takes away the pass it practically gives McD a (unnecessary) breakaway - the % of scoring goes up drastically. If the D tries to force a pass the chances of the offence fawking up becomes greater.
- Brooks_Light

Agreed.

If he lets Macjesus skate uninterrupted towards Holtby it’s literally a 90% chance he scores lol. They ended up with a fairly low danger scoring chance which Holtby easily stops. I’d say well done Jack

Just to be clear, you think Rath should have shaded towards Drai and given macdavid a clear lane to the net? I really hope this isn’t what you are saying as I’ll have to flag you for gross incompetence
- CanuckDon

No.

No.
- Reubenkincade

What exactly are you saying then? Stay exactly in the middle and leave Macdsvid with time and space to do whatever the (frank) he wants? You need to apply a little pressure (but don’t overcommit) to force the issue.

Obviously the goalie lines up to the shooter but I said "they should be expecting the pass." Which is what Holtby did and got across quite easily to make the save. The Dman should try to prevent the pass and lead the shooter OVER as much as possible towards the face-off dot into a low percentage scoring area - ei. forcing the pass. Again, Rathbone played it very well considering the situation and most importantly the players involved.
- Brooks_Light

No, I think you have it backwards. Goalie is anticipating shot all the way. The rest of it comes from reads and cheating. ie. if you know you and your D have the angle on the shooter you can cheat a little. Primarily the rule has always been if the pass gets across, the Dman didn't do their job. So really, the Goalie is assuming D has got the passing lane covered.

The goaltending was good.
- Marwood

Goaltending hasn't been too bad this year and they aren't near as good as last season. So a few other things must have gone better last season as well.

What exactly are you saying then? Stay exactly in the middle and leave Macdsvid with time and space to do whatever the (frank) he wants? You need to apply a little pressure (but don’t overcommit) to force the issue.
- CanuckDon

Now the fans are experts!

Now the fans are experts!
- K-man25

Shhh

Grownups are discussing maturely. We don’t need calgary trash weighing in

What exactly are you saying then? Stay exactly in the middle and leave Macdsvid with time and space to do whatever the (frank) he wants? You need to apply a little pressure (but don’t overcommit) to force the issue.
- CanuckDon

I am letting Loads deal with this one. He seems to be on the same page. You and Brooke are out to lunch.😁

I am letting Loads deal with this one. He seems to be on the same page. You and Brooke are out to lunch.😁
- Reubenkincade

Lol I still play and have played for 35 years. I know how to defend a 2:1. And I already had lunch. Spicy Pho today

No, I think you have it backwards. Goalie is anticipating shot all the way. The rest of it comes from reads and cheating. ie. if you know you and your D have the angle on the shooter you can cheat a little. Primarily the rule has always been if the pass gets across, the Dman didn't do their job. So really, the Goalie is assuming D has got the passing lane covered.
- Load Management

Generally this is how I was taught. Goalie plays the shooter, defense eliminates the pass but cuts the ice in half and begins to narrow if the opportunity is there as the play gets deeper. If Rathbone left the middle of the ice to cover pass, clear cut breakaway. If he lunges for the puck carrier, a quick pass creates the same breakaway with less time for goalie to get a read.

Goalies that get caught cheating hear about it in the video room

No, I think you have it backwards. Goalie is anticipating shot all the way. The rest of it comes from reads and cheating. ie. if you know you and your D have the angle on the shooter you can cheat a little. Primarily the rule has always been if the pass gets across, the Dman didn't do their job. So really, the Goalie is assuming D has got the passing lane covered.
- Load Management

I dont have anything backwards - we actually partially agree. Goalie anticipates shot, but Dman tries to force the shooter into making a difficult play (making the pass, getting it to the player, the player accepting the pass, getting the shot off, beating the goalie.) You have 1 step vs 5 steps.

There's no "primary if the pass gets across the D failed rule" - that's just not true at all. you're puling that outta your a$$.

I am letting Loads deal with this one. He seems to be on the same page. You and Brooke are out to lunch.😁
- Reubenkincade

I'm at the point where I need a whiteboard with a rink on it.

There's always a risk or we can stay safe and keep being disappointed year after year.
- Marwood

Weren't disappointed last season.
- manvanfan

The Miller trade was a risk.

I dont have anything backwards - we actually partially agree. Goalie anticipates shot, but Dman tries to force the shooter into making a difficult play (making the pass, getting it to the player, the player accepting the pass, getting the shot off, beating the goalie.) You have 1 step vs 5 steps.

There's no "primary if the pass gets across the D failed rule" - that's just not true at all. you're puling that outta your a$$.
- Brooks_Light

If every D man played a 2:1 the same it would be pretty easy for the shooter lol. You need a little unpredictability to throw of their timing as well

Generally this is how I was taught. Goalie plays the shooter, defense eliminates the pass but cuts the ice in half and begins to narrow if the opportunity is there as the play gets deeper. If Rathbone left the middle of the ice to cover pass, clear cut breakaway. If he lunges for the puck carrier, a quick pass creates the same breakaway with less time for goalie to get a read.

Goalies that get caught cheating hear about it in the video room
- WhiteLie

Yeah but in order to make that pass and find the back of the net - 4 extra steps need to happen successfully. Therefore, the odds increase significantly.

I'm at the point where I need a whiteboard with a rink on it.
- Load Management

You guys do know they didn't score on the play, right?

You guys do know they didn't score on the play, right?
- NorthNuck

Northy for the win!