Ranting - LOL.

PG-13 eh? Are you so dumb that you can't recognize someone hitting their head on the ice is dangerous?

You wouldn't need to deflect about "Oshie's" night if the NHL actually made some real decisions.

But go on - stay in denial.

- Nasty_Duck

Move the (frank) on! You are every where. He was already punished, just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean you have to drag your poop every where and make a poop trace.

Move the (frank) on! You are every where. He was already punished, just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean you have to drag your poop every where and make a poop trace.
- SPIDEROCKSTAR

In what way was he punished?

And frank you too.

And if you want me to post less, stop responding to my posts. It's that easy.

In what way was he punished?

And frank you too.

And if you want me to post less, stop responding to my posts. It's that easy.
- Nasty_Duck

Such a whiner man. Calm down and move on. The very man you despise (Parros) knows better than anyone in this league how dangerous hitting their head on the ice is. This was breadboy jumping on a grizzly's back and getting rag dolled. It has been addressed, and again the league just handed out a 250k penalty for the rangers abrupt reactions on the matter. What Buch did to Mantha is far more dangerous, and cowardice as we all know he would sooner play dead then actually stick up for his teammates.

So yes, this was PG-13 and it was too much for you to bear witness. Time to find another sport. I am not about to troll a bunch of pages whining about Buch's crosscheck, because the Caps are a big boy team that will address these issues themselves rather than complain when a 5k or 1 game suspension is dealt.

And no, this was Oshies night. The bulk of the scraps were settled in the first, and we have all moved on. Oshie started scoring in the 2nd and his unfiltered reactions are far and above the most significant memory I will keep from that game. So go back to your bruins blog and quit ranting about all the decisions that upset you. Time to move on.

panarin bit off more then he could chew...shouldn't have done that. Stop trying to make it seem like Wilson hunted the little guy down...he didn't.

btw, where is all the outrage over buch using his stick as a weapon against manthas face last night? rags and the media are silent...typical hypocrites
- CapitalsXTC

The league made it quite clear to Buchnevich that they weren't about to protect him, so he did it himself. He had every reason in the world to expect that the only consequence would be a $5000 fine.
Also, none of that would have happened if the refs had simply called Mantha for the 2 hander to the back of Buch's legs that started that entire sequence 120 feet down ice.
But, I don't expect logic, reason or facts to slow you down.

Bike guy is a typical devil fan! Your breathing too much toxic air over there in Newark! Devils are a joke prudential center is a toxic waste dumb and bike guy has lost too many brain cells!

This is in the Rangers fans opinion. Could have been about your outspoken organization calling for peoples heads, could have been about the firing of your GM and front office staff, could have been about Buch's gutless crosscheck to the face. Did wilson cry when Smith essentially jumped him? No, he knew the odds of this happening was high and answered the bell like everyone knew he would. 70 fights in his career and counting so relax.

Oshie was the story in my eyes, and going back to his emotional on-ice interview after winning the cup brought this moment full circle. Hard to not get choked up when watching Oshie's unfiltered emotions. Great game, great player, not disappointed one bit. Good job Caps!
- bikeguy99

So easy to see how you spin the narrative to fit what you want. It wasn't even a crosscheck. Would have been much, much worse for Mantha if it was. Just like you said it would have been worse for Panarin if Wilson had dropped the gloves. I guess Buch was being a nice guy and taking it easy on Mantha (who was antagonizing him for the slash on Wilson).
Buchnevich stands zero chance in a fight with Mantha and if he had waited a split second longer Mantha's stick was coming up for him. I've got no problem with him protecting himself and I have no problem with him facing discipline for it, because it broke the rules.

Such a whiner man. Calm down and move on. The very man you despise (Parros) knows better than anyone in this league how dangerous hitting their head on the ice is. This was breadboy jumping on a grizzly's back and getting rag dolled. It has been addressed, and again the league just handed out a 250k penalty for the rangers abrupt reactions on the matter. What Buch did to Mantha is far more dangerous, and cowardice as we all know he would sooner play dead then actually stick up for his teammates.

So yes, this was PG-13 and it was too much for you to bear witness. Time to find another sport. I am not about to troll a bunch of pages whining about Buch's crosscheck, because the Caps are a big boy team that will address these issues themselves rather than complain when a 5k or 1 game suspension is dealt.

And no, this was Oshies night. The bulk of the scraps were settled in the first, and we have all moved on. Oshie started scoring in the 2nd and his unfiltered reactions are far and above the most significant memory I will keep from that game. So go back to your bruins blog and quit ranting about all the decisions that upset you. Time to move on.
- bikeguy99

Play dead? Man you are so blind. Get a new prescription.

Bike guy is a typical devil fan! Your breathing too much toxic air over there in Newark! Devils are a joke prudential center is a toxic waste dumb and bike guy has lost too many brain cells!
- Bobd62

Hmmm. Interesting take. You know so much about me. I live in Canada. Played semi-pro (swiss), have 2 university degrees, and own a construction company that is doing quite well. I have 20 acres of wilderness if I walk out my front steps and agree that the Prudential centre is neither attractive, nor of the best air quality. I try and not judge you as a "typical Rags fan", nor assume you live in New York. I am not targeting anyone personally, but find it odd that you guys are all over Washingtons page. Like I said, I am not going around the blogs whining about what happened on the ice, as these men are big boys and can settle it themselves. Just read your post and tell me again who is lacking brain cells. Your team takes chippy games and turns them into verbal rants similar to any of the "karen" videos our there. Cry victim all you want, but you wer a soft team who missed playoffs just like my Devs. Again, this has been addressed, and it is time to move on. Cheers from the North!

Hmmm. Interesting take. You know so much about me. I live in Canada. Played semi-pro (swiss), have 2 university degrees, and own a construction company that is doing quite well. I have 20 acres of wilderness if I walk out my front steps and agree that the Prudential centre is neither attractive, nor of the best air quality. I try and not judge you as a "typical Rags fan", nor assume you live in New York. I am not targeting anyone personally, but find it odd that you guys are all over Washingtons page. Like I said, I am not going around the blogs whining about what happened on the ice, as these men are big boys and can settle it themselves. Just read your post and tell me again who is lacking brain cells. Your team takes chippy games and turns them into verbal rants similar to any of the "karen" videos our there. Cry victim all you want, but you wer a soft team who missed playoffs just like my Devs. Again, this has been addressed, and it is time to move on. Cheers from the North!
- bikeguy99

Wow! A Canadian devils fan! rangers are a soft team no doubt but the fact that you don’t have a “problem” with what that pos Wilson did and are upset with ranger fans “crying about it” shows your just an ignorant former Canadian hockey player with a brain defect that should go out into his “20 acres of wilderness” and stay there for a while and meditate! Cheers from the East!

Funny how so many sanctimonious hypocrites let their hatred for Tom Wilson turn them into the very thing they claim to despise. Their hate reveals their true character as they make death threats, promote cheap shots and call for the end of someone’s career all while acting like it’s all Wilson’s fault they’ve soiled their own values/character.

Reminds me of psychos like Kathy Griffin exposing their own degenerate lunacy when Trump was elected.
- RonPielep

In my opinion cheapshots break down into three categories:

1. Opportunistic. These are unprovoked ones taken when an opportunity presents itself to a player with a penchant for taking this kind. Matt Cooke and Marchand were/are prime examples of these types of players. They don't necessarily go into games thinking "I am going to take so and so out with a cheapshot" but when the opportunity presents itself something inside of them, something in their DNA, motivates them to take it - perhaps even unconsciously in many cases.

A prime example of this type is Matt Cooke's elbow to McDonagh in 2011:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emTQpD8jmuw

2. Targeted and jealous-driven. These are also unprovoked and are cheapshots taken against other teams' star players. These are the most vicious of all, typically.

Steckel's hit on Crosby in the 2010 WC is a prime example of this kind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUQziwabMKk

3. Targeted and revenge-oriented. In cases where a relatively tough player takes a cheapshot of one of the first two types and neither the refs nor especially the league does anything about it and the victimized team doesn't have anyone who can take on that player in a fair fight (which is being squeezed out of the game now anyway) a player from the victimized team might either target the offender or one of their star players with a cheapshot.

The first two types are never justified and outrage over them is always justified. They also tend to be the most common. Regarding the third type, these can be justified. When Parros doesn't want to suspend Wilson for anything (I read an article that claimed that Parros did not want to suspend Wilson for his hit on Carlo earlier in the season but was overridden by Bettman) and the Rangers do not have anyone on their team who can take on Wilson in a fair fight this is ultimately the only option that actually sends a message. Now if the league gave Wilson a 15 game suspension then there is no need for further action on the Rangers' part.

In my opinion cheapshots break down into three categories:

1. Opportunistic. These are unprovoked ones taken when an opportunity presents itself to a player with a penchant for taking this kind. Matt Cooke and Marchand were/are prime examples of these types of players. They don't necessarily go into games thinking "I am going to take so and so out with a cheapshot" but when the opportunity presents itself something inside of them, something in their DNA, motivates them to take it - perhaps even unconsciously in many cases.

A prime example of this type is Matt Cooke's elbow to McDonagh in 2011:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emTQpD8jmuw

2. Targeted and jealous-driven. These are also unprovoked and are cheapshots taken against other teams' star players. These are the most vicious of all, typically.

Steckel's hit on Crosby in the 2010 WC is a prime example of this kind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUQziwabMKk

3. Targeted and revenge-oriented. In cases where a relatively tough player takes a cheapshot of one of the first two types and neither the refs nor especially the league does anything about it and the victimized team doesn't have anyone who can take on that player in a fair fight (which is being squeezed out of the game now anyway) a player from the victimized team might either target the offender or one of their star players with a cheapshot.

The first two types are never justified and outrage over them is always justified. They also tend to be the most common. Regarding the third type, these can be justified. When Parros doesn't want to suspend Wilson for anything (I read an article that claimed that Parros did not want to suspend Wilson for his hit on Carlo earlier in the season but was overridden by Bettman) and the Rangers do not have anyone on their team who can take on Wilson in a fair fight this is ultimately the only option that actually sends a message. Now if the league gave Wilson a 15 game suspension then there is no need for further action on the Rangers' part.
- PghPens668771

Anyone who confidently states that - "if Wilson was suspended, Buch wouldn't have cross-checked Mantha in the face" - is a disingenuous hack promoting their own conjecture as fact.

Beware those who aim to abuse the notion of counterfactuals to their own ends. They are transparently manipulative and cannot be trusted.

Anyone who confidently states that - "if Wilson was suspended, Buch wouldn't have cross-checked Mantha in the face" - is a disingenuous hack promoting their own conjecture as fact.

Beware those who aim to abuse the notion of counterfactuals to their own ends. They are transparently manipulative and cannot be trusted.
- RonPielep

I certainly would never say that with certainty. I will say that it reduces the likelihood of that happening. And if it does happen it justifies very harsh punishment of Buch - perhaps even more than what Wilson would get initially under the circumstance.

I think the most important aspect of this is that the game was incredibly entertaining and too bad there isn’t anymore games between the 2 teams this year.

Hopefully messier is hired to bulk up nyr. Burke toughens up pitt. And the metro becomes mutant league hockey.

Anyone who confidently states that - "if Wilson was suspended, Buch wouldn't have cross-checked Mantha in the face" - is a disingenuous hack promoting their own conjecture as fact.

Beware those who aim to abuse the notion of counterfactuals to their own ends. They are transparently manipulative and cannot be trusted.
- RonPielep

Fancy words don't make it any harder to see that last night would have gone much, much differently if the league took care of the players in anything even closely resembling a consistent manner.
Mantha wasn't even hurt. That is always the DoPS's guiding light in these rulings, but because Dolan publicly shamed the league Buchnevich is now going to end up with a harsher penalty than Wilson after all of this bullpoop. That is next level (frank)ed up and if you can't see that, I have no hope, nor interest, in helping you to.

I certainly would never say that with certainty. I will say that it reduces the likelihood of that happening. And if it does happen it justifies very harsh punishment of Buch - perhaps even more than what Wilson would get initially under the circumstance.
- PghPens668771

That is reasonable enough.

I am just warning, there are many out there (especially online) blatantly lying that they know something with certainty about a timeline that never occurred. This is a causation fallacy.

They claim that they can roll back time, suspend Wilson, have the next game, and know with (supposed) confidence what will happen on the ice given all of this.

Whether it's sports, politics, or finance, these people are manipulative snakes that should be flagged and assigned zero credibility.

Fancy words don't make it any harder to see that last night would have gone much, much differently if the league took care of the players in anything even closely resembling a consistent manner.
Mantha wasn't even hurt. That is always the DoPS's guiding light in these rulings, but because Dolan publicly shamed the league Buchnevich is now going to end up with a harsher penalty than Wilson after all of this bullpoop. That is next level (frank)ed up and if you can't see that, I have no hope, nor interest, in helping you to.
- Tonybere

I'm sure you know exactly what would have happened had the past not occurred as it did.

I'm sure you know exactly what would have happened had the past not occurred as it did.
- RonPielep

Seriously?

You don't think that if Wilson was suspended for last nights game the likelihood of it being a circus would have been decreased? By a lot.

Dolan would not have a reason to call for Parros to be fired and the team would have had much less incentive to try and police the game themselves.

Seriously?

You don't think that if Wilson was suspended for last nights game the likelihood of it being a circus would have been decreased? By a lot.

Dolan would not have a reason to call for Parros to be fired and the team would have had much less incentive to try and police the game themselves.
- Nasty_Duck

Don't bother. He's only interested in talking in absolutes. Because that way he can say he's right and your wrong.

Seriously?

You don't think that if Wilson was suspended for last nights game the likelihood of it being a circus would have been decreased? By a lot.

Dolan would not have a reason to call for Parros to be fired and the team would have had much less incentive to try and police the game themselves.
- Nasty_Duck

It very well could have been a circus either way but only the snakes with crystal balls need to rely on this type of speculation to promote their narrative.

It very well could have been a circus either way but only the snakes with crystal balls need to rely on this type of speculation to promote their narrative.
- RonPielep

all right bub. You are being just as disingenuous as others you claim are being.

Good to see Buchnevich taking matters into his own hands. Parros hands were tied on that suspension length for sure. Mantra no angel out there either. Or according to cap fans, he didn’t really get hurt he had a shield on just a little cut. No different than Panarin no? Upper body injury. It’s all good. We’re all even.

Good to see Buchnevich taking matters into his own hands. Parros hands were tied on that suspension length for sure. Mantra no angel out there either. Or according to cap fans, he didn’t really get hurt he had a shield on just a little cut. No different than Panarin no? Upper body injury. It’s all good. We’re all even.
- mattstake

Was Parros actually involved in the decision?

Seems like a wee bit of conflict of interest considering the letter from Dolan the night before...

So! You think the next Caps/B’s game will be as exciting?

So! You think the next Caps/B’s game will be as exciting?
- 10inchTerror

Hope not. Only winner is the other teams in the Division.

Seriously?

You don't think that if Wilson was suspended for last nights game the likelihood of it being a circus would have been decreased? By a lot.

Dolan would not have a reason to call for Parros to be fired and the team would have had much less incentive to try and police the game themselves.
- Nasty_Duck

No we don't. Because hockey is a team sport, teammates stick up for each other. While we can never be 100% sure (despite your bold claims), you would hope that the Rangers would rally and stick up for themselves regardless.

Oshie stole the show and rightfully so. If anyone has a free minute, go back to his on-ice interview after winning the cup and having his dad in the stands. Unreal seeing him process and appreciate that night so much. At 35 he is still getting it done. This should go down as the most entertaining game of the season