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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
If we do hire Granato, it might be best to trade the old core/corps of the team because I really don't see him taking them to the playoffs next year, but I could really see them as a bubble team no matter what.

Give him a 3-year deal, trade Eichel, Reinfart, Olofsson, convince Seattle to take Skinner/Skinner to waive and retain $2/m if we have to, at this point what's worse? Having him here always under-performing a huge contract, or, keeping some of his celery and not having to give up anything else to get rid of him?

Granato with a young team next year might be the most exciting and best performing Sabres team in a decade. The biggest question is does Eichel really want to be here for the long-haul?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
No Cap dumps.
Why do the Rags a favor? If they need relief, tell them to talk to Detroit.

Rape Drury too, no favors, make it hurt...you want him, great
-Zibby
-Laf
-Buchie
-Kakko
-Miller
-Georgiev
-2021-1st unprotected

4

Jack
Skinner
Olofsson

- IonSabres



I'd add olo too.

Seems like a whole team:

4

3x injured of 6 seasons begrudged top 10 center
Worst contract in the league
Pp guy with a good shot

I agree though, if they really want eichel and are the team initiating the talks..... make em pay. Especially drury.
I could see 4 of the 7 pieces you mentioned being a final price. 🤝
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
No Cap dumps.
Why do the Rags a favor? If they need relief, tell them to talk to Detroit.

Rape Drury too, no favors, make it hurt...you want him, great
-Zibby
-Laf
-Buchie
-Kakko
-Miller
-Georgiev
-2021-1st unprotected

4

Jack
Skinner
Olofsson

- IonSabres

Swap Skinner for Reinhart and I think this is actually a really good deal for both sides. Then send Skinner and Ristolainen out West to LA or San Jose, anywhere.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
😐

What do you think homie:

9
53
Bryson or Samuelson
2022 (2nd)

93
Laferierre
2021 (1st)
2022 (1st)
Cap dump

- Boss34

make deangelo the dump and buy him out immediately
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
If we do hire Granato, it might be best to trade the old core/corps of the team because I really don't see him taking them to the playoffs next year, but I could really see them as a bubble team no matter what.

Give him a 3-year deal, trade Eichel, Reinfart, Olofsson, convince Seattle to take Skinner/Skinner to waive and retain $2/m if we have to, at this point what's worse? Having him here always under-performing a huge contract, or, keeping some of his celery and not having to give up anything else to get rid of him?

Granato with a young team next year might be the most exciting and best performing Sabres team in a decade. The biggest question is does Eichel really want to be here for the long-haul?

- BeadyEyedDouche

rangers drank the kotalik kool aid once, maybe they will take olofsson in the trade
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 9 @ 11:41 AM ET
We cant trade a center for winger
- gerbe75pts


If trading jack. IF! ...

And if trading jack and not targeting a center, does Risto+ (think olofson), get you a center?

What centers do you like?

I’m thinking two categories.

1- high end, about ready, prospect (ie- Byfield)

2- young ish, established #2
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:42 AM ET
rangers drank the kotalik kool aid once, maybe they will take olofsson in the trade
- homiedclown

if i remember correctly it was a cap-choice between him and jp dumont...darcy chose wrong
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
make deangelo the dump and buy him out immediately
- homiedclown


Absolutely

Gotta take in some $, regardless of the rangers ability to stay under the cap.

Eichel probably has an even +/- contract value
Skimmer -4 million $ contract
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 9 @ 11:47 AM ET
McDavid is a God.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 11:59 AM ET
Isn't 93 a center?

Center and winger for center and winger

Jack and skins for 93 and laferierre?

- Boss34


Hes a free agent next yeah though and going to be 29 next year
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
If trading jack. IF! ...

And if trading jack and not targeting a center, does Risto+ (think olofson), get you a center?

What centers do you like?

I’m thinking two categories.

1- high end, about ready, prospect (ie- Byfield)

2- young ish, established #2

- Gr8daygo


The only place that makes sense for is NJ ( Hughes) ducks ( Zegras) Kings ( Byfield)
Vancouver ( Pettersson) NYI ( Barzal ) wings (Larkin )

Sure im missing some other teams but those are the pieces you should look for


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
The only place that makes sense for is NJ ( Hughes) ducks ( Zegras) Kings ( Byfield)
Vancouver ( Pettersson) NYI ( Barzal ) wings (Larkin )

Sure im missing some other teams but those are the pieces you should look for

- gerbe75pts

eichel, bryson and olofsson for

divorak, garlund, chychrun, kuemper and a prospect
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 12:15 PM ET
eichel, bryson and olofsson for

divorak, garlund, chychrun, kuemper and a prospect

- homiedclown

That's a interesting idea.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 12:16 PM ET
eichel, bryson and olofsson for

divorak, garlund, chychrun, kuemper and a prospect

- homiedclown


Jack deserves better
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 9 @ 12:18 PM ET
Hes a free agent next yeah though and going to be 29 next year
- gerbe75pts


PERFECT!
29 in April next year..so ya technically..for the last 2 weeks of the season, lol.

Either get a deal in place to extend for 4 years at $8.5m
Or
Trade him in a haul at the TDL
Or
Trade him immediately upon getting him. There is a great market for a 1ppg player.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
C'mon 24.

Combining this post with others from you on Skinner, and using that same argument with Okposo ; you are effectively saying
- Hall at $8m is a positive impact player
- Skinner at $9m is a positive impact player
- Okposo at $6m is a positive impact player
That is $23m of positive impacts, lol.


Games are won by goals...those 3 combined for 11 goals in 125 games. They each and collectively fell woefully short of doing what that were paid rather handsomely to do...score goals.

I get your argument, I do...but there are different results expected of different players. Saying Sheahan at $700k did his job by having a positive Corsi is great. Saying $23m is good to produce 51.2 CF is ludicrous at best.

Your top 6 is expected to control play...AND SCORE GOALS...lots of them. They didn't.

Yes, at 2 G in 37 games for a 82 pace of 5 goals...yup, that is short of even Girgenson territory...$2.2 would be an overpayment.

I want $8m to be a role player...I have heard it all now!

- IonSabres

What?

I don’t get the bold.

I never said Hall was worth 8 mil, and I’ve repeatedly said a million times Skinner is overpaid

Are you blaming Hall for taking money that was offered to him? He said in interviews post trade that he wanted to be behind someone who he believed was better than him. (Eichel)

He wasn’t great here, but the idea he’s “washed” is just nonsense
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
Jack deserves better
- gerbe75pts

has nothing about what he deserves


he refused to sign an extension unless disco sucks was canned


it's about what gets us the best return, if they move him
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 12:37 PM ET
Game theory time:

Garbage organization, made up award, it’s a ploy to try to get him to like buffalo and resign.

Smiling shows he is buying into this ploy, not smiling says Terry can go (frank) his mother.


The Sabres organizations main flaw in the past 8 years is 55. The result of mismanaging him will result in the loss of 9 and 23.

The organization still has no goalie, no grit, no solidified direction. Thinking this will be a quick turnaround is foolish and will only compound the problem.

- washedup20


you know what's gonna be hilarious?...

when the sabres pick torts as their coach and risto signs an extension
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 12:38 PM ET
has nothing about what he deserves


he refused to sign an extension unless disco sucks was canned


it's about what gets us the best return, if they move him

- homiedclown


If you treat a player like that it will give bad vibes around the league .

When that team could move
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 12:40 PM ET
has nothing about what he deserves


he refused to sign an extension unless disco sucks was canned


it's about what gets us the best return, if they move him

- homiedclown

they should have let nolan finish out his contract
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 12:43 PM ET
If you treat a player like that it will give bad vibes around the league .

When that team could move

- gerbe75pts

they'd be better off framing it as moving on from the bad fruit (not him as a player, but as part of this concept) from a bad tree (tanking)
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 12:44 PM ET
If you treat a player like that it will give bad vibes around the league .

When that team could move

- gerbe75pts

Dammit, not that. You don't think the Sabres have bad vibes around the league by most already.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 9 @ 12:47 PM ET
Sabres main flaw the past years is 55
The organization has no grit.



All 55 provides is grit....



Very confusing post

- Boss34


That's nice. I wish he'd provide some talent and play some decent D.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 12:47 PM ET
No Cap dumps.
Why do the Rags a favor? If they need relief, tell them to talk to Detroit.

Rape Drury too, no favors, make it hurt...you want him, great
-Zibby
-Laf
-Buchie
-Kakko
-Miller
-Georgiev
-2021-1st unprotected

4

Jack
Skinner
Olofsson

- IonSabres

Are we sending Krueger stank's lavender lube with that, or is Drury taking that dry.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 12:48 PM ET
That's nice. I wish he'd provide some talent and play some decent D.
- kritter65

Stop 65 just stop the Viking will not take that.
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