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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 11:29 PM ET
You will never know if it's the right coach you hired until it happens and this team reaches the ultimate goal.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 9 @ 11:29 PM ET
My understanding is there trying to keep the coach around for "jack eichel" But that just seems idiotic
- gerbe75pts


Meaning Granato?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:29 PM ET
Could say that about any coach they may hire.
- Buff36

the last two coaches they hired--one with no nhl head coaching experience and the other with 48 games--lasted two seasons and 1 1/2 shortened seasons...

donnie g could be out after two years with a team that looks like it's making progress in year one only to collapse in year-two...kinda like what happened with the last two rookie/novice head coaches
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 11:30 PM ET
God I hope so.

I can’t deal with Casey or Cozens getting benched but yet Eakin sucks out there and Torts rides him because he’s part of the “vets do no wrong club”

- ImThatGuy


Dahlin would Suffer the most
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 9 @ 11:30 PM ET
if you do your job and work to your talents, what does he have to yell about?
- Michael Pachla


I’ve had the yells and screams boss.

You do everything right and one thing wrong and it’s hell.

No thanks.


Basically it comes down to an age generation gap (no offense not a shot)

Older generation likes hard nosed yell and scream guy.

Younger generation thinks it’s a bad idea.

It’s what I have noticed even on social media.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 11:30 PM ET
Meaning Granato?
- Slump Buster

I was specifically talking about the Rangers
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 11:31 PM ET
I think everyone should pay attention to the playoffs because usually coaches get fired

Just saying
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 11:31 PM ET
the last two coaches they hired--one with no nhl head coaching experience and the other with 48 games--lasted two seasons and 1 1/2 shortened seasons...

donnie g could be out after two years with a team that looks like it's making progress in year one only to collapse in year-two...kinda like what happened with the last two rookie/novice head coaches

- Michael Pachla

You don't know until it happens
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 9 @ 11:33 PM ET
if you do your job and work to your talents, what does he have to yell about?
- Michael Pachla


Torts has won and Granato has not. I'd bet on Granato any day of the week over torts with this young roster. He isn't a fit here.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:33 PM ET
People respond in different ways I am sure there's people out there that do an amazing job without being yelled at
- gerbe75pts


sure...there are also some pretty fragile individuals who only want to be coddled...

granato could afford to be a coddler because there was nothing on the line...it's different when the real bullets fly and torts has been through 20 years of that as opposed to, what, 19 games for granato
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 9 @ 11:35 PM ET
You don't know until it happens
- Buff36


Also, bad coaches get new jobs all of the time. Bylsma says hello.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:35 PM ET
I’ve had the yells and screams boss.

You do everything right and one thing wrong and it’s hell.

No thanks.


Basically it comes down to an age generation gap (no offense not a shot)

Older generation likes hard nosed yell and scream guy.

Younger generation thinks it’s a bad idea.

It’s what I have noticed even on social media.

- ImThatGuy


no offense taken...we were raised differently, that's all...just like my father's generation was raised different from mine...

all that yelling and abuse gave us thick skin to go along with the mental scars
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:37 PM ET
You don't know until it happens
- Buff36

*shrugs*

true story
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 9 @ 11:38 PM ET
sure...there are also some pretty fragile individuals who only want to be coddled...

granato could afford to be a coddler because there was nothing on the line...it's different when the real bullets fly and torts has been through 20 years of that as opposed to, what, 19 games for granato

- Michael Pachla


Torts hasn’t won anything in what 12 years?

Outside of Bowman no coach has won a cup with two different teams.

Ran a #1 center and it of Columbus because he wanted to punish him.

Guy he got in return was benched because when doesn’t fit.

For Torts you have to remake this entire roster. You have to have players that fit him. He doesn’t. Torts is a lot of square pegs in round holes.

It needs to be the other way around. Find a coach that gets the best out of this roster.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 11:39 PM ET
Also, bad coaches get new jobs all of the time. Bylsma says hello.
- Slump Buster

Very true, pretty much put my opinion out there already, from everything I have read on Granato, I think we already have are coach that fits this team.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:39 PM ET
I was specifically talking about the Rangers
- gerbe75pts

am starting to think that beniers and sam bennett are comparables...
thoughts?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 11:41 PM ET
*shrugs*

true story

- Michael Pachla

Not trying to be a wiener, but we just have to hope they make the right choice.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 9 @ 11:41 PM ET
no offense taken...we were raised differently, that's all...just like my father's generation was raised different from mine...

all that yelling and abuse gave us thick skin to go along with the mental scars

- Michael Pachla


I have thick skin I’m younger-ish. I’d rather not be yelled and screamed at anytime I make a mistake while boss man plays favorites.

Like I said I’ve had that boss. the entire department hated him and his antics fell on deaf ears very quickly with everyone.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:42 PM ET
Torts hasn’t won anything in what 12 years?

Outside of Bowman no coach has won a cup with two different teams.

Ran a #1 center and it of Columbus because he wanted to punish him.

Guy he got in return was benched because when doesn’t fit.

For Torts you have to remake this entire roster. You have to have players that fit him. He doesn’t. Torts is a lot of square pegs in round holes.

It needs to be the other way around. Find a coach that gets the best out of this roster.

- ImThatGuy

he's done that at every stop (outside of vancouver)...take a look at the rosters of tampa (stanley cup,) rags (ecf) and columbus as they made the playoffs in every full season he was head coach and pulled off some nice surprises along the way...he played to his talent-level and got the most out of them
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 9 @ 11:43 PM ET
Very true, pretty much put my opinion out there already, from everything I have read on Granato, I think we already have are coach that fits this team.
- Buff36


Me too, and I am fine with that. All we can do is make the best informed decision. We have reason to think he could be a good one. I don't want a knuckle dragger
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 9 @ 11:46 PM ET
he's done that at every stop (outside of vancouver)...take a look at the rosters of tampa (stanley cup,) rags (ecf) and columbus as they made the playoffs in every full season he was head coach and pulled off some nice surprises along the way...he played to his talent-level and got the most out of them
- Michael Pachla


Even Lindy evolved. There is no evolution with Torts.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 9 @ 11:47 PM ET
Me too, and I am fine with that. All we can do is make the best informed decision. We have reason to think he could be a good one. I don't want a knuckle dragger
- Slump Buster

Just gotta hope Adams and Karmanos hit on there choice.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 9 @ 11:49 PM ET
am starting to think that beniers and sam bennett are comparables...
thoughts?

- Michael Pachla


I think they're nothing alike beniers is a player the prides himself on defense he brings the heat
forecheck . I believe he will be what drury was to us Just an important part for the future to building a cup team

Do I think hes going to be the best player no
But hes the safest one to hit his calling
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 9 @ 11:49 PM ET
Even Lindy evolved. There is no evolution with Torts.
- Slump Buster

whelp...it took him four years to get a head coaching job and he's at 19-29-7 this season with a decent team
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 9 @ 11:50 PM ET
Just gotta hope Adams and Karmanos hit on there choice.
- Buff36


I have a feeling they will. I just do. Lots of evidence ad to what doesn't work.
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