You are correct! If they activated him, it would put them over the cap and they don't have anyone they'd want to dropped who would get them back below it!
- stevens87

Sweet, thanks. Hex definitely has his work cut out for him this off-season. This may sound stupid and I won't feel butt-hurt for anyone calling it stupid, but I think the Pens may need to get rid of Matheson, Pettersson and Zucker (or Tanev) to make everything work, i.e. making room for Marino's contract kicking in and raises to Rust, Teddy and ZAR .

I'm not sure how I feel about it, but...

Dumo/Letang
POJ/Marino
Riikola/Ruhwedel
Friedman/Maniscalco

We may have to hope that one or both of Poulin and Legare are ready.

Sweet, thanks. Hex definitely has his work cut out for him this off-season. This may sound stupid and I won't feel butt-hurt for anyone calling it stupid, but I think the Pens may need to get rid of Matheson, Pettersson and Zucker (or Tanev) to make everything work, i.e. making room for Marino's contract kicking in and raises to Rust, Teddy and ZAR .

I'm not sure how I feel about it, but...

Dumo/Letang
POJ/Marino
Riikola/Ruhwedel
Friedman/Maniscalco

We may have to hope that one or both of Poulin and Legare are ready.
- Rinosaur

Dummy,

JK. I’ve been saying that for a bit. I’ve loosened on Zucker since he’s resurged but I think generally my take on him is that he’s more middle six than top 6 and just isn’t great value. But Petterson and Matheson both have to go (hopefully for solid prospects/draft capital if Matheson has improved his perception with a solid season) if Hextall wants to make any kind of impact on this roster. Otherwise all we can really do is run it back and I don’t think we’re good enough for that to be smart.

Sweet, thanks. Hex definitely has his work cut out for him this off-season. This may sound stupid and I won't feel butt-hurt for anyone calling it stupid, but I think the Pens may need to get rid of Matheson, Pettersson and Zucker (or Tanev) to make everything work, i.e. making room for Marino's contract kicking in and raises to Rust, Teddy and ZAR .

I'm not sure how I feel about it, but...

Dumo/Letang
POJ/Marino
Riikola/Ruhwedel
Friedman/Maniscalco

We may have to hope that one or both of Poulin and Legare are ready.
- Rinosaur

My belief is that Hexy will make a big splash at the draft and try and get some high draft picks. It's been talked before but I think maybe #8.

I think at his price and not yet 30, he could bring a high pick(2nd maybe) plus a young cheaper player.

Dummy,

JK. I’ve been saying that for a bit. I’ve loosened on Zucker since he’s resurges but I think generally my take on him is that he’s more middle six than top 6 and just isn’t great value. But Petterson and Matheson both have to go (hopefully for solid prospects/draft capital if Matheson has improved his perception with a solid season) if Hextall wants to make any kind of impact on this roster. Otherwise all we can really do is run it back and I don’t think we’re good enough for that to be smart.
- Victoro311

LOL

Yeah. On one hand it makes the Pens a younger team, but that's only good if the younger players are having an impact.

I've always been a fan of Riikola and thought he's a grossly underrated player, so him on the third pair isn't bad IMO. If the Pens can find a way to re-sign Ceci at a reasonable cost it may cushion the blow.

Jake-Sid-Rust
???-Geno-Kap
McCann-Carter-Gaudreau
???-Blueger-Tanev

I don't include ZAR because unless the Pens work out some deal with Seattle to take a specific player, I have a feeling ZAR is who gets snagged.

My belief is that Hexy will make a big splash at the draft and try and get some high draft picks. It's been talked before but I think maybe #8.

I think at his price and not yet 30, he could bring a high pick(2nd maybe) plus a young cheaper player.
- stevens87

I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe he'll try to find some cheap long-pants vet next Geno on a on year deal.

I think I read yesterday or the day before that he's in full-contact practice. I also think he said something to the effect he's feeling better each day and that he's getting closer.
- Rinosaur

Awesome. I think Tanev would thrive on the McCann-Carter line. I'm just pumped this team is healthy and ready to roll.

Awesome. I think Tanev would thrive on the McCann-Carter line. I'm just pumped this team is healthy and ready to roll.
- nateca444

I can't see any world where Gaudreau comes off that line at the moment. I'd assume the Blueger line is reunited and ERod is the odd man out for the moment.

Legace starting this afternoon!

Legace starting this afternoon!
- stevens87

Pens need to play the most boring game of hockey today and just be as opportunistic as possible when Buffalo (frank)s up.

LOL

Yeah. On one hand it makes the Pens a younger team, but that's only good if the younger players are having an impact.

I've always been a fan of Riikola and thought he's a grossly underrated player, so him on the third pair isn't bad IMO. If the Pens can find a way to re-sign Ceci at a reasonable cost it may cushion the blow.

Jake-Sid-Rust
???-Geno-Kap
McCann-Carter-Gaudreau
???-Blueger-Tanev

I don't include ZAR because unless the Pens work out some deal with Seattle to take a specific player, I have a feeling ZAR is who gets snagged.
- Rinosaur

One of Zucker, Blueger, or McCann are getting exposed. Any three of those guys would be taken ahead of ZAR. Unless you think ZAR is part of the deal that protects one of those three.

One of Zucker, Blueger, or McCann are getting exposed. Any three of those guys would be taken ahead of ZAR. Unless you think ZAR is part of the deal that protects one of those three.
- Victoro311

Can you refresh me on how many players they can protect? I forget.

Can you refresh me on how many players they can protect? I forget.
- Rinosaur

7 forwards.

1. Crosby
2. Malkin
3. Guentzel
4. Kapanen
5. Rust
6. Zucker/Blueger/McCann
7. Zucker/Blueger/McCann

Key exposures: Zucker/Blueger/McCann, Tanev, ZAR.

My assumption is that if Seattle reaches on someone that’s not part of that tripod, it’ll be Tanev. I don’t want to lose Tanev but if that happens I can only really shrug.

7 forwards.

1. Crosby
2. Malkin
3. Guentzel
4. Kapanen
5. Rust
6. Zucker/Blueger/McCann
7. Zucker/Blueger/McCann

Key exposures: Zucker/Blueger/McCann, Tanev, ZAR.

My assumption is that if Seattle reaches on someone that’s not part of that tripod, it’ll be Tanev. I don’t want to lose Tanev but if that happens I can only really shrug.
- Victoro311

Yeah, I agree then Zucker would be gone which is probably the best-case-scenario in a poop situation. It would probably be more difficult to move Zucker in any attempt to dump most of his salary while getting decent assets in return.

Yeah, I agree then Zucker would be gone which is probably the best-case-scenario in a poop situation. It would probably be more difficult to move Zucker in any attempt to dump most of his salary while getting decent assets in return.
- Rinosaur

In any trades for Zucker, Petterson, or Matheson my primary motivation is maximum cap space. I think Zucker has the most value of the three, but he also has the biggest cap hit so it’s less likely to completely clear him in a trade. Having him taken in expansion might be a win.

In any trades for Zucker, Petterson, or Matheson my primary motivation is maximum cap space. I think Zucker has the most value of the three, but he also has the biggest cap hit so it’s less likely to completely clear him in a trade. Having him taken in expansion might be a win.
- Victoro311

I agree.

I think with Petterson they can probably get back in trade maybe a bottom-six player making around half his salary. That would be my goal anyway.

It’s harder to gauge with Matheson because I don’t know his perception has changed at all and call me stupid/crazy on this, but I’m curious if we could see a surprise and see Marino moved IF Hex/Burke value Ceci more and think they can sign him for less than Marino is making.

With Hextall badly wanting quality futures, Marino is IMO the player who can probably get the highest return.

I agree.

I think with Petterson they can probably get back in trade maybe a bottom-six player making around half his salary. That would be my goal anyway.

It’s harder to gauge with Matheson because I don’t know his perception has changed at all and call me stupid/crazy on this, but I’m curious if we could see a surprise and see Marino moved IF Hex/Burke value Ceci more and think they can sign him for less than Marino is making.

With Hextall badly wanting quality futures, Marino is IMO the player who can probably get the highest return.
- Rinosaur

I think the best case scenario for this offseason is taking best available trade for Matheson, swinging a trade where we don’t give up much to Seattle for them to take Pettersson, and then either deciding to keep Zucker or swinging him for a knock out trade where get back good futures and minimal cap.

I think the best case scenario for this offseason is taking best available trade for Matheson, swinging a trade where we don’t give up much to Seattle for them to take Pettersson, and then either deciding to keep Zucker or swinging him for a knock out trade where get back good futures and minimal cap.
- Victoro311

I don't disagree. I'm just curious now what moving Matheson would look like. Is it easier now? The same?

We also have to be prepared for the fact Hextall will bring in at least one gorilla. Zero clue what that would look like or who his targets would be, but could that mean trying to sign someone like Foligno, trading for someone like Zadorov or someone lower level that can be slotted in and out of the lineup.

Who knows, maybe Brown is still on their radar? I think this also will factor in to how they proceed with everyone.

7 forwards.

1. Crosby
2. Malkin
3. Guentzel
4. Kapanen
5. Rust
6. Zucker/Blueger/McCann
7. Zucker/Blueger/McCann

Key exposures: Zucker/Blueger/McCann, Tanev, ZAR.

My assumption is that if Seattle reaches on someone that’s not part of that tripod, it’ll be Tanev. I don’t want to lose Tanev but if that happens I can only really shrug.
- Victoro311

Carter isn't part of the equation?

Carter isn't part of the equation?
- Beatnic57

I forgot to include him in the notable exposures but I think we can safely expose him given his age and expiring contract. Not a ton of upside for Seattle in taking him unless they’re absolutely positive they’re gonna make a Cup run in year 1 like Vegas, or want to sell him at the deadline.

One reason I'm glad NBC is will be out is the streaming. I steam most of my games on Sling, NHL package, etc... and when using the NBC app there is sometime more than a two minute delay.

One reason I'm glad NBC is will be out is the streaming. I steam most of my games on Sling, NHL package, etc... and when using the NBC app there is sometime more than a two minute delay.
- Rinosaur

The NBC app (frank)ing blows Richard.

I’ve been streaming television for three years now and NBC is always my worst experience.

I forgot to include him in the notable exposures but I think we can safely expose him given his age and expiring contract. Not a ton of upside for Seattle in taking him unless they’re absolutely positive they’re gonna make a Cup run in year 1 like Vegas, or want to sell him at the deadline.
- Victoro311

Tough to say, because Seattle would take him because it gives them cost certainty in only a 1 year commitment and a very flippable asset at low cost, especially given his current production

Only because it's Francis, they may respect him as a long term vet (with a No Trade Clause), yes, he could be selected, but why bring in a guy who will just be salty about moving again (To Seattle) and then potentially again in a trade (And his NTC probably follows him to Seattle anyways)

I think we underestimate how much pre-negotiation takes place before an expansion draft and the mutual respect among GM's. No GM will be blind sided with who will be selected

There's a reason guys have careers in hockey management and they are constantly recycled. They aren't as cut throat as we would like and are in our fantasy leagues

The NBC app (frank)ing blows Richard.

I’ve been streaming television for three years now and NBC is always my worst experience.
- Victoro311

(frank)ing terrible. I'm going to stream it on my laptop using sportsurge over my actual television. That's how much I hate it.

I've yet to figure out a clean way to stream from laptop to the tv. Everything I've tried buffers like a mother(frank)er.

If pens win this game I win $3500 off my pre season bet they would win the division! They better not let me down now haha

7 forwards.

1. Crosby
2. Malkin
3. Guentzel
4. Kapanen
5. Rust
6. Zucker/Blueger/McCann
7. Zucker/Blueger/McCann

Key exposures: Zucker/Blueger/McCann, Tanev, ZAR.

My assumption is that if Seattle reaches on someone that’s not part of that tripod, it’ll be Tanev. I don’t want to lose Tanev but if that happens I can only really shrug.
- Victoro311

The one thing I hope Hexy does not do is compound it with giving up draft picks to have them take a player. JR gave Vegas a 2nd round pick to guarantee they take MAF instead of Rust. I think they would have taken MAF regardless. If you lose the player you didn't want to then you just move on. You don't make things worst by giving up a player + another asset.