Moron! I bring up Lindros because Lindros was a Flyer. What other random name would you like me to use? So because Patrick’s skill level doesn’t reach Hall of Fame levels, his health shouldn’t be considered?
- SuperSchennBros

If his health is an issue he shouldn’t be playing.

Moron! I bring up Lindros because Lindros was a Flyer. What other random name would you like me to use? So because Patrick’s skill level doesn’t reach Hall of Fame levels, his health shouldn’t be considered?
- SuperSchennBros

If patrick could score 70 to 100 points a season and be an automatic game changer night and night out, he can chill and recover from concussions any time. Thats why you have patience with these players. Because YOU KNOW what your getting. What are you getting out of Nolan Patrick?

Moron! I bring up Lindros because Lindros was a Flyer. What other random name would you like me to use? So because Patrick’s skill level doesn’t reach Hall of Fame levels, his health shouldn’t be considered?
- SuperSchennBros

You are clueless. How'd Craig Anderson do tonight?

It’s really not about having sympathy for the kid. I’m sure no one here is wishing ill health on him. It’s about whether he can play or not. He and the team and the team doctors claim he is healthy enough to play. He’s had an entire season to show any signs that he can return to form. He has not shown any signs of improving at all. I’m not saying he should be given up on, but maybe don’t put him on the ice with a minute to go in regulation and in OT.
- Dkos

You don’t wish bad health on the kid but before know if there is truly something wrong, he’s fair game to take shots at? Rationalize it anyway you want. Kid gets hit in the head by a Myers shot, we take him out for a couple of games. Clearly there is some concern there. Kid has to sit a year and half without hockey. Clearly a cause for concern.

Okay, so if the season ends and news comes out there was something wrong then what? I know in 2019 when the season ended, we didn’t know anything was wrong but suddenly we sign Hayes.

-29
- Tomahawk

i know thats largely become a stat that is viewed as outdated, but in a 56 game season on a team is around/above 500 that is pretty remarkable

If patrick could score 70 to 100 points a season and be an automatic game changer night and night out, he can chill and recover from concussions any time. Thats why you have patience with these players. Because YOU KNOW what your getting. What are you getting out of Nolan Patrick?
- Thrashahoy

I get it now. He can’t do what Lindros did, so no cause for concern. I got it.

You are clueless. How'd Craig Anderson do tonight?
- PLindbergh31

Must have made you hard. I didn’t even know Anderson was still in the league until tonight

If his health is an issue he shouldn’t be playing.
- Dkos

Is he playing though? He looks like a member of the ice capades to me.

If his health is an issue he shouldn’t be playing.
- Dkos

What did we know about Patrick’s head issues prior to him sitting a season?

i know thats largely become a stat that is viewed as outdated, but in a 56 game season on a team is around/above 500 that is pretty remarkable
- stayinthefnnet

He's managed to do it on the 4th-line too, playing 10-11 ES mins per game.

Not all the goals are his fault of course. But he seems like a reverse horseshoe right now.

If he can play like he has in the last few games ....Myers that is ....then that’s a guy that can really be a help next year. Trust me I agree he has played like poop this year, but he has showed the type of game of late that has the Flyers still excited about his future.
- landros 2

Myers blocked a shot point blank in the third and was right in the middle of the last regulation scrum grabbing guys. Calling him a wuss is ridiculous.

The funny part is most of the players on the Flyers would look pretty good on other teams, but together they all suck.

Tonights game was just ANOTHER example of it's not skill the Flyers lack, it's effort and passion as a whole. They got whooped by a completely stripped lineup. The Flyers could land some big named skilled players this offseason and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they look like half the player while wearing a Flyers jersey. The question is why does that happen and when that is answered changes can be made.
- Glak18

I hate to be on of those guys that continually points to the core...but that’s the common denominator. I agree the sum of the parts should be greater, but they clearly....like clearly are not. How many coaches or new messages do we need to see before the obvious is finally addressed. I don’t know exactly what the plan is going forward, but a substantial change to some core pieces is in order or we’ll be watching yet another wasted, excuse filled season again next year.

You think that’s a bad comparison???
- SuperSchennBros

Very

You don’t wish bad health on the kid but before know if there is truly something wrong, he’s fair game to take shots at? Rationalize it anyway you want. Kid gets hit in the head by a Myers shot, we take him out for a couple of games. Clearly there is some concern there. Kid has to sit a year and half without hockey. Clearly a cause for concern.

Okay, so if the season ends and news comes out there was something wrong then what? I know in 2019 when the season ended, we didn’t know anything was wrong but suddenly we sign Hayes.
- SuperSchennBros

I’m really not understanding what you’re saying. Are you saying his poor play is due to CTE? If that’s the case he should not be allowed in the ice for his own safety. According to him and doctors and the team he is healthy to play. I’m not mad at Patrick for not playing well. I’m mad at the coach for putting him on the ice in critical situations.

Must have made you hard. I didn’t even know Anderson was still in the league until tonight
- SuperSchennBros

Mr Bustrick.... how many points and shots on goal did you have in tonight's game?

I’m really not understanding what you’re saying. Are you saying his poor play is due to CTE? If that’s the case he should not be allowed in the ice for his own safety. According to him and doctors and the team he is healthy to play. I’m not mad at Patrick for not playing well. I’m mad at the coach for putting him on the ice in critical situations.
- Dkos

Well for starters, it’s a message board conversation. You say you’re not upset with him but the AV’s decision making. Okay, do a better job of voicing that.

At the same time I’m responding to multiple messages about the same topic. So I’m not overly concerned with one view.

So you’re confident there couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with this kid? Migraines, concussion, mental or otherwise?

I hate to be on of those guys that continually points to the core...but that’s the common denominator. I agree the sum of the parts should be greater, but they clearly....like clearly are not. How many coaches or new messages do we need to see before the obvious is finally ddressed. I don’t know exactly what the plan is going forward, but a substantial change to some core pieces is in order or we’ll be watching yet another wasted, excuse filled season again next year.
- landros 2

Maybe.. I dont know, I felt like they started playing a lot better after some of the kids got brought up when the season was pretty much over. A lot more intensity, better passing plays. This was with the same core. They still dont look playoff ready but I wouldnt blame it all on the core.

Like we've said before, a lot of core players had good seasons but collectivley they just didnt make it work. Team makeup, players that we can work with but just too high on the depth chart with where there at.

A goose egg in every column in the box score except for the -2.

Stiffan Bustrick -29 on the season. What a (frank)ing bum.

Clinching the Division for the Penguins while losing. Only they could do it.
- PLindbergh31

maybe we can use him for something at the draft

I’m really not understanding what you’re saying. Are you saying his poor play is due to CTE? If that’s the case he should not be allowed in the ice for his own safety. According to him and doctors and the team he is healthy to play. I’m not mad at Patrick for not playing well. I’m mad at the coach for putting him on the ice in critical situations.
- Dkos

These games provide experience and a chance to learn. If Patrick plays defense this badly next season...yes, absolutely, he should sit.

Anyone else coming around on not using a protection slot on him? I don’t think Seattle takes the risk. He just hasn’t shown that he can put it together.

Well for starters, it’s a message board conversation. You say you’re not upset with him but the AV’s decision making. Okay, do a better job of voicing that.

At the same time I’m responding to multiple messages about the same topic. So I’m not overly concerned with one view.

So you’re confident there couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with this kid?
- SuperSchennBros

I think I made myself pretty clear. Maybe you should do a better job of comprehending.

Oh, I absolutely think there is something wrong with him. I wouldn’t presume to even guess at what it might be though. All I know is he’s not good enough right now to be the center on the ice with a minute to go in OT.

I think I made myself pretty clear. Maybe you should do a better job of comprehending.

Oh, I absolutely think there is something wrong with him. I wouldn’t presume to even guess at what it might be though. All I know is he’s not good enough right now to be the center on the ice with a minute to go in OT.
- Dkos

Really...

It’s really not about having sympathy for the kid. I’m sure no one here is wishing ill health on him. It’s about whether he can play or not. He and the team and the team doctors claim he is healthy enough to play. He’s had an entire season to show any signs that he can return to form. He has not shown any signs of improving at all. I’m not saying he should be given up on, but maybe don’t put him on the ice with a minute to go in regulation and in OT.
- Dkos

This is your original post. Very little said about Vigneault.

Didn't like that York didnt run out the pop up for the icing in his second NHL game though. I could be wrong but I think It was York.

maybe we can use him for something at the draft
- 2Real

Sure. He can be the guy who puts the jersey and hat on the kid the Flyers pick.

pretty high up on the insult list, not gonna lie.
- stayinthefnnet

I'm sorry, that was over the line

He's managed to do it on the 4th-line too, playing 10-11 ES mins per game.

Not all the goals are his fault of course. But he seems like a reverse horseshoe right now.
- Tomahawk

for sure.

i think i may have been overly generous with my offer of a third rounder.

it does suck for the kid. if hes not right physically he shouldnt be out there. you have to assume he is. im not a doctor obviously, but i would think he is technically healthy. but you have to wonder just how much its caused him to be timid, second guess, overthink etc. so he might be "right" but the ghost of the injury is probably impacting him through and through. hes a "size" player who is mentally held back from incorporating it into his game. so you get what you see, a big guy largely skating in circles.