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K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 14 @ 7:40 PM ET
True, I will gladly settle for a couple more years of mediocrity in the name of going for it if it means watching sutter single handedly destroy Francis’ career.
- RedC21


You can see he hates Francis just by his answers.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 14 @ 11:01 PM ET
I don’t agree but that’s a fair opinion, in this draft it might not even matter if you’re picking 1-3.

From what I’ve researched there seems to be a top tier of about 8 players followed by a tier of 4 or 5. If you’re at 9 you have a decent chance of collecting one of the top 8 if someone goes a little off the board (ie Buffalo taking Quinn over Rossi/perfetti last year). Also being lower gives you more control over getting the player you want vs getting whoever the guys ahead of you pick, something that is a good thing to have in any draft.

- RedC21


Don’t agree. The draft rankings are so different that if you’ve done your homework properly picking 8th instead of 12th could be huge.
I’m hoping we get the lowest pick possible.


Yeah, I agree on these points as well, you want control and you want to position yourself for the best player possible. In a draft like this one, teams are going to be basing their pick on pretty limited information. You look at a guy like Raty who was, a year or two ago thought to be a slam dunk top 5 guy and now he's outside the top 10 (and way outside on some boards, but was #10 in CS mid season rankings). And that's based on 35 games this year. That kind of a player could still blossom into a premier forward.

And yeah, I see the point around the draft tiers. Basically goes Power - then 2-8 in some order of
Edvinsson
Hughes
Clarke
Beniers
Guenther
Eklund
Johnson (as low as 13 on Button and Dreger boards)

I just think it matters less. Tre is as likely to draft a Bolduc as he is a Beniers at the end of the day, so whether he's 5 or 12, he's gonna take the guy he wants. This is also the season where teams have far less information to go by than in most seasons and someone is going to look like a genius while someone looks like a fool - not unlike a lot of drafts
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
You can see he hates Francis just by his answers.
- K-man25


Sutts, Ras, Johnny, Gio.... the shared hate of Francis might be the biggest bonding ingredient in that room right now
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 15 @ 11:36 AM ET
Sutts, Ras, Johnny, Gio.... the shared hate of Francis might be the biggest bonding ingredient in that room right now
- rmull905


I think I read on reddit that one of Francis's parents was a big wig in a media company. He is such a pretentious douche.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

May 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
Yeah, I agree on these points as well, you want control and you want to position yourself for the best player possible. In a draft like this one, teams are going to be basing their pick on pretty limited information. You look at a guy like Raty who was, a year or two ago thought to be a slam dunk top 5 guy and now he's outside the top 10 (and way outside on some boards, but was #10 in CS mid season rankings). And that's based on 35 games this year. That kind of a player could still blossom into a premier forward.

And yeah, I see the point around the draft tiers. Basically goes Power - then 2-8 in some order of
Edvinsson
Hughes
Clarke
Beniers
Guenther
Eklund
Johnson (as low as 13 on Button and Dreger boards)

I just think it matters less. Tre is as likely to draft a Bolduc as he is a Beniers at the end of the day, so whether he's 5 or 12, he's gonna take the guy he wants. This is also the season where teams have far less information to go by than in most seasons and someone is going to look like a genius while someone looks like a fool - not unlike a lot of drafts

- rmull905


I agree, part of my bias too may also be that I’m really high on Chaz Lucius in that 9-12 range. Projected top 5 at the start of the year, fell because he missed most of the season with an injury and covid scouting probably didn’t help. I don’t think he’s going to slip underneath many team’s noses, especially considering the lack of C at the top end of the draft.

Wallstadt is also a big X-factor as well as some places have him listed in the top 10.

Lastly I’ll leave this as a hot take, power may go 1st but Hughes, Clarke and edvinsson will wind up as better players


Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

May 15 @ 6:11 PM ET
I think I read on reddit that one of Francis's parents was a big wig in a media company. He is such a pretentious douche.
- DuranDuran


His mom is the chief editor of the National Post if I remember correctly.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 16 @ 8:47 PM ET
His mom is the chief editor of the National Post if I remember correctly.
- fry


Francis would be great in Toronto.

Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

May 16 @ 10:09 PM ET
I don't recall ever being as disappointed with a team as I have been of the Flames this year. I have zero interest in watching the core leadership (Backlund, Giordano and Monahan in particular) "compete" for the cup next year. I would like to see all 3 of them shipped out this offseason. They weren't able to get it done here and I don't think they deserve another kick at the can (same bullpoop every year--never play 3 periods consecutively).

Treliving should be on a very short leash next year (if he's not fired this offseason). The Flames should empty the vault to get Eichel out of Buffalo (trade anyone other than Tkachuk and Lindholm to get it done.

I usually don't miss a Flames game if I can help it, but I literally chose watching Jays' spring training games over watching this teams pathetic stretch drive.


DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 16 @ 10:28 PM ET
I don't recall ever being as disappointed with a team as I have been of the Flames this year. I have zero interest in watching the core leadership (Backlund, Giordano and Monahan in particular) "compete" for the cup next year. I would like to see all 3 of them shipped out this offseason. They weren't able to get it done here and I don't think they deserve another kick at the can (same bullpoop every year--never play 3 periods consecutively).

Treliving should be on a very short leash next year (if he's not fired this offseason). The Flames should empty the vault to get Eichel out of Buffalo (trade anyone other than Tkachuk and Lindholm to get it done.

I usually don't miss a Flames game if I can help it, but I literally chose watching Jays' spring training games over watching this teams pathetic stretch drive.

- Saskabush


Watching Bennett is not making things easier.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 16 @ 10:29 PM ET
Nice! Another game blog.
hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

May 17 @ 12:52 AM ET
Watching Bennett is not making things easier.
- DuranDuran



2 points today for Benny
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
I agree, part of my bias too may also be that I’m really high on Chaz Lucius in that 9-12 range. Projected top 5 at the start of the year, fell because he missed most of the season with an injury and covid scouting probably didn’t help. I don’t think he’s going to slip underneath many team’s noses, especially considering the lack of C at the top end of the draft.

Wallstadt is also a big X-factor as well as some places have him listed in the top 10.

Lastly I’ll leave this as a hot take, power may go 1st but Hughes, Clarke and edvinsson will wind up as better players

- RedC21


If I have to cheer for a guy named Chaz, I'm going to become an Oilers fan. I said it. No takesies backsies.


rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
2 points today for Benny
- hockey4hockey


And 2 penalties, one likely to get him either a fine or suspension. Take the bad with the good.
itwasin
Location: It Was In - June 5 2004, AB
Joined: 09.28.2013

May 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
And 2 penalties, one likely to get him either a fine or suspension. Take the bad with the good.
- rmull905

And Tampa scored on both of them.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
And Tampa scored on both of them.
- itwasin


Yup, and now he's gone for a game.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
Yup, and now he's gone for a game.
- rmull905

Super undisciplined penalties that cost Florida the game. Always felt he had the right kind of game you can win with but the hockey IQ just isnt there.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 3:59 PM ET
Super undisciplined penalties that cost Florida the game. Always felt he had the right kind of game you can win with but the hockey IQ just isnt there.
- Kevin R


Clearly had revenge on his mind for the elbow on Barkov... but just dumb stuff. Go fight Coleman. Don't crush the guy from behind going 30 km/h. Brutal.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 17 @ 7:04 PM ET
Super undisciplined penalties that cost Florida the game. Always felt he had the right kind of game you can win with but the hockey IQ just isnt there.
- Kevin R

Still doesn’t make it a good trade. Let’s see what kind of return he produces.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

May 17 @ 7:14 PM ET
I watched the first period of the game last night. They almost blew the lead, at least Van got a point.

Read an article discussing how Tkachuk would be a better target for the Rags than Eichel, as Eichel cost too much $$$.

Would much rather trade JG.

RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

May 17 @ 8:49 PM ET
If I have to cheer for a guy named Chaz, I'm going to become an Oilers fan. I said it. No takesies backsies.

- rmull905


Well according to elite prospects he has a younger brother named Cruz so it could be worse lol
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
Well according to elite prospects he has a younger brother named Cruz so it could be worse lol
- RedC21





On the fence of which is worse...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

May 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Francis would be great in Toronto.
- DuranDuran

THIS!!
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

May 18 @ 7:21 PM ET
At least Dutter didn’t play Markstrom again. Guess we’ll see him tomorrow. Here’s hoping he doesn’t pop his groin!
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 18 @ 7:56 PM ET
At least Dutter didn’t play Markstrom again. Guess we’ll see him tomorrow. Here’s hoping he doesn’t pop his groin!
- Ol_Boy_Wop


Was hoping to see phillips and maybe Philp. Not sure i see the point of seeing Simon or Nordstrom. Ruzicka had a nice assist today though.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

May 18 @ 8:01 PM ET
Hmmm... Nothing like pissing the new coach off at the end of the year.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...be-valimaki-lots-growing/
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