Can’t wait to see how the Eichel v. Buffalo saga plays out.
- darkerens

As a suburban bumbalo resident I’ve been telling you’s Jack want out. Is that believed now after his “wherever I play” comments today. He WILL. Be traded

So you can miss the playoffs and not even get the lottery picks?
- bmeltzer

Actually with that trade philly makes the playoffs.
Jake is garbage
Frost who cares
Sanheim?? Meh
Future picks DONT affect the roster

Eichel allows the middle of ice to be slotted correctly where they can excel.
Jack
Coots
Hayes

G is one dimensional
- Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

I think you are way overvaluing Jack Eichel, and undervaluing the Flyers players you are referencing. Eichel is damaged goods (talking about neck surgery for Pete sake) and not a player I would trade my franchise for which is what you are doing here. The Flyers tried this once with Lindros, how did that work out for them?
- jd250

I am not overvaluing Eichel nor advocating for his trade here. I may be overstating his trade value, sure. But I think it will be a lot closer to this than the original proposal.

The neck surgery, if I understand correctly, is discretionary.

You, can have the city. Mostly dirty, smells bad, expensive. Ill stay out here in the rural areas where i can raise, grow, hunt, or fish for my own food. I'll take the freedom of owning a vehicle and a trailer i can go on a moments notice.
No one where i live is overly concerned if you dont have a mask on and many don't.
The neighbors look out for each other. It's quiet, the air is clean, the water is clean and not chemically purified. If i dont lock my truck not everything is gone in the morning. We actually have electricity, plumbing, running water and even internet service.
- bird_dog_pa

Yeah, that was my teenage years rec pursuits: football, hunting blacktail, fishing. Trailers too, though we called them campers then. I do know the lifestyle you are talking about. But in the late 70s/early 80s, the line of divide was not so thick. You would find some very knowledgeable, educated, intelligent people who chose to farm and were not just born into it.

Today, if you meet the minimum academic threshold and are from the heartland, prestigious universities all over the country fall over themselves to give you financial aid to come and study there. And all these kids, they write their 'personal statements' about how they are going to use their education to go back to their rural roots and help their locality.

And you know what happens to these smart kids? Faced with the choice of living in the dirty, smelly, expensive city or the simple and pure pleasures of the countryside, nobody, nobody, nobody ever chooses the latter.

As a suburban bumbalo resident I’ve been telling you’s Jack want out. Is that believed now after his “wherever I play” comments today. He WILL. Be traded
- SMS4016

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Yeah, I noticed that too.
- PT21

I love when people argue like a few months ago when I said Jack definitely wants out for many reasons and people were saying no no no he doesn’t. So as a funny story back in ‘06-07 season when biron was traded to philly I told people briere was definitely signing in Philly. It was a done deal. People oh you’re nuts. Well some of the players went to same church (well the wives of players mainly) anyways brieres wife told people at the church briere and biron (best friends) were talking and Marty convinced briere to sign in off season in Philly. House up for sale before season even over and free agency period. Briere wife on weekends in Philly area looking for homes and checking out schools. Tampering for sure. My wife was friends with tallinders wife and back in January of ‘07 she told my wife “the briere’s we’re definitely off to philly per Sylvia (brieres wife) now of course I was loving it being a flyers fan. Lol

Actually with that trade philly makes the playoffs.
Jake is garbage
Frost who cares
Sanheim?? Meh
Future picks DONT affect the roster

Eichel allows the middle of ice to be slotted correctly where they can excel.
Jack
Coots
Hayes
- SMS4016

Thank goodness you aren't in a decision making role in a hockey organization. The Flyers number one need by far is to reduce their GAA significantly. Eichel wouldn't help in that regard.

In terms of scoring, they entered March 4th in NHL (the scoring dried up after that but the team was 7th in GPG in 2019-20, so the larger sample size over the last two seasons is that there's enough scoring to win. Plus there's some offensively adept players on the way: Frost, Allison, Foerster).

Voracek is far from "garbage". The cap hit and remaining term are problematic. His two-way game took a step backward this season after a strong year in that regard in 2019-20. But he is still a good point producer.

Frost is a fine prospect. It's unfortunate he was lost for the season so early this year. He had a very camp and was an AHL all--star who showed flashes of what he could do in the NHL. Would I trade him in a package deal for Eichel? Certainly. But

Sanheim, despite consistency issues, is an at minimum an 18-min a night defenseman in any organization in the NHL. The Flyers need to ADD to their defense corps, not subtract from the few guys you can pencil in. Who is your replacement for Sanheim? And what is your plan for a partner for Provorov? You just acquired a $10M cap hit on Eichel.

Future 1st picks don't affect your current roster but they sure as hell affect the organization long term.

You've weakened your D corp, maybe gained a little in scoring points (Eichel vs. Voracek plus Frost). You haven't helped your cap situation (especially because you'd also have to eat salary on Voracek). You've put all your eggs in basket of a player who seems to be a bit of a malcontent or at least a bit immature.

When all is said and done, you're no closer to winning. You've simply created a new "best player on a non-contender" scenario.

Yeah, that was my teenage years rec pursuits: football, hunting blacktail, fishing. Trailers too, though we called them campers then. I do know the lifestyle you are talking about. But in the late 70s/early 80s, the line of divide was not so thick. You would find some very knowledgeable, educated, intelligent people who chose to farm and were not just born into it.

Today, if you meet the minimum academic threshold and are from the heartland, prestigious universities all over the country fall over themselves to give you financial aid to come and study there. And all these kids, they write their 'personal statements' about how they are going to use their education to go back to their rural roots and help their locality.

And you know what happens to these smart kids? Faced with the choice of living in the dirty, smelly, expensive city or the simple and pure pleasures of the countryside, nobody, nobody, nobody ever chooses the latter.
- PT21

Maybe you should expand your social circles. One example a good friend of mine left the Wall Street very successful financial guy leave in his 30s and now lives on a small ranch in Colorado.
I’m sure most people who attend college and get real degrees migrate to more populated areas. For the most part that’s where the money is.

Not sure if you’ll see this Bill but Foerster got hurt last night and it sounded like he wasn’t expected to play the last two games.
Any word on the injury?

Well said!

The captain of the team should lead by example. His work ethic, that includes preparing for the games, starting the game strong, if a goal is scored bounce back with a strong motivated shift by pressuring the other team in their zone, big hit or any other play that turns the game to your teams favor.

This team didn’t show much if any of the above from the veteran group of 28, 93, 13. The younger group can take up the slack but if the veterans are not leading the younger guys might feel like they are overstepping their roles. They shouldn’t but younger players take the lead from players that have been in the league longer.

I bet you the players, coaches, ex-players still around the team even the broadcaster have a good idea what the real issues are with this team. None of us are in that room or on the bench watching and hearing who is part of the problem and who is part of the solution.

I just hope it’s fixed this summer and we get to watch good hockey again. I miss good hockey, it was hard watching this team this year!
- Hosher12

Yes, it was a tough year to watch them, and it figures since this was the first year I paid to watch all the Flyers game via nhl.tv. I also hope they fix the problems in the off season and to me I don't know how you start anywhere but with the veteran core of this team. AV kept rolling out the veteran players for PPs late in games to give them a chance to win or tie, and they failed more often than not. As I keep saying, your highest paid players have to be legitimate top players, otherwise your team is screwed. Well we saw this season that Flyers lack top players, and they paid for it!

Thank goodness you aren't in a decision making role in a hockey organization. The Flyers number one need by far is to reduce their GAA significantly. Eichel wouldn't help in that regard.

In terms of scoring, they entered March 4th in NHL (the scoring dried up after that but the team was 7th in GPG in 2019-20, so the larger sample size over the last two seasons is that there's enough scoring to win. Plus there's some offensively adept players on the way: Frost, Allison, Foerster).

Voracek is far from "garbage". The cap hit and remaining term are problematic. His two-way game took a step backward this season after a strong year in that regard in 2019-20. But he is still a good point producer.

Frost is a fine prospect. It's unfortunate he was lost for the season so early this year. He had a very camp and was an AHL all--star who showed flashes of what he could do in the NHL. Would I trade him in a package deal for Eichel? Certainly. But

Sanheim, despite consistency issues, is an at minimum an 18-min a night defenseman in any organization in the NHL. The Flyers need to ADD to their defense corps, not subtract from the few guys you can pencil in. Who is your replacement for Sanheim? And what is your plan for a partner for Provorov? You just acquired a $10M cap hit on Eichel.

Future 1st picks don't affect your current roster but they sure as hell affect the organization long term.

You've weakened your D corp, maybe gained a little in scoring points (Eichel vs. Voracek plus Frost). You haven't helped your cap situation (especially because you'd also have to eat salary on Voracek). You've put all your eggs in basket of a player who seems to be a bit of a malcontent or at least a bit immature.

When all is said and done, you're no closer to winning. You've simply created a new "best player on a non-contender" scenario.
- bmeltzer

And don't forget Eichel is damaged goods, talking about getting a serious neck surgery. We don't need any more hurt or damaged players, we're all stocked up here! On defense I think you build around Provorov and Sanheim, and Fletcher can do this in free agency if 1. he can free up cap space by getting rid of Ghost, Jake and JVR, and 2. defenseman like Larsson or Hamilton don't resign with their current teams and want to come here. Otherwise, Fletcher can make a hockey trade with Nashville for Ekholm if Nashville chooses to invest in Fabbro instead. Whatever Fletcher does, he needs to get 2 legitimate top 4 defensemen, and then round out his defense with York, Morin and Zamula. I believe the younger kids coming up can replace the offense lost by losing Jake and JVR, however another nice free agent forward could add some veteran leadership, toughness, timely scoring and speed.

G is one dimensional
- Fopa21
Joined: 05.12.2021

- Bendecko

In real life, this dude Jeff something hated playing randel. He’s holding up clerks 3. I think he hated the real life attention he was getting. Plus I heard he married one of the girls from the original cast that passed away, which hit him hard.

Sorry, I love Kevin Smith. His YouTube show gets me through the week. Mark Bernardin is pretty great too.

Giroux-Couturier-Allison
Farabee-Frost-Foerster
Lindblom-Patrick-Konency
Laughton-NAK

Provorov-Myers
York-Sanheim

Hart

Not putting together lines as much as I’m saying, our youth group and overall core is still pretty impressive.

I love when people argue like a few months ago when I said Jack definitely wants out for many reasons and people were saying no no no he doesn’t. So as a funny story back in ‘06-07 season when biron was traded to philly I told people briere was definitely signing in Philly. It was a done deal. People oh you’re nuts. Well some of the players went to same church (well the wives of players mainly) anyways brieres wife told people at the church briere and biron (best friends) were talking and Marty convinced briere to sign in off season in Philly. House up for sale before season even over and free agency period. Briere wife on weekends in Philly area looking for homes and checking out schools. Tampering for sure. My wife was friends with tallinders wife and back in January of ‘07 she told my wife “the briere’s we’re definitely off to philly per Sylvia (brieres wife) now of course I was loving it being a flyers fan. Lol
- SMS4016

lol no one said this. the only thing people were saying is that he's under contract for the next 5 years.

Giroux-Couturier-Allison
Farabee-Frost-Foerster
Lindblom-Patrick-Konency
Laughton-NAK

Provorov-Myers
York-Sanheim

Hart

Not putting together lines as much as I’m saying, our youth group and overall core is still pretty impressive.
- SuperSchennBros

If you fill that out with Jake, Hayes and Ghost on paper this team should not suck as bad as it did for too much of last season. Zamula didn't look out of place when he played either. The team and coaches have to get a system together to make the on ice product match what these players should be able to do...

Team issues:
1. Leadership needs a change not good enough
2. Provy to many minutes not a true #1
3. Sanheim to many minutes a 4 at best
4. Myers to many minutes a 5/6 at best
5. No true sniper
6. To soft of a team
- Fopa21

"joined 5/12/2021"

"joined 5/12/2021"
- black_francis

I am sure it is an alias from someone in the group that was banned...some of them were banned for as long as 3 years...

Giroux-Couturier-Allison
Farabee-Frost-Foerster
Lindblom-Patrick-Konency
Laughton-NAK

Provorov-Myers
York-Sanheim

Hart

Not putting together lines as much as I’m saying, our youth group and overall core is still pretty impressive.
- SuperSchennBros

You seem to be in a Hayes with those lines.

Maybe you should expand your social circles. One example a good friend of mine left the Wall Street very successful financial guy leave in his 30s and now lives on a small ranch in Colorado.
I’m sure most people who attend college and get real degrees migrate to more populated areas. For the most part that’s where the money is.
- bird_dog_pa

We are talking about decisions at different stages of life. The example you provided has nothing to do with what I was referring to and in any case, even that is a very small minority, and as an aside, rarely in rural rust belt.

Jobs are a important determinant but not all of the cause. In fact, in my experience, the same job will not induce young people to go country, even with an at least 25% lower cost of living, and even if they are from there.

There has been a gigantic brain drain from rural and small town USA since the last 30 odd years. I am not particularly happy about it.

You seem to be in a Hayes with those lines.
- PT21

Yeah, I forgot him but I wasn’t originally going to include G and Coots either

In real life, this dude Jeff something hated playing randel. He’s holding up clerks 3. I think he hated the real life attention he was getting. Plus I heard he married one of the girls from the original cast that passed away, which hit him hard.

Sorry, I love Kevin Smith. His YouTube show gets me through the week. Mark Bernardin is pretty great too.
- SuperSchennBros

Clerks 3 is happening and the actors who played Dante and Randal will be playing them again:
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/kevin-smith-clerks-3-announced/

The premise/basic plot has been revealed:
https://news.avclub.com/kevin-smith-says-clerks-3-is-about-the-clerks-making-cl-1838944158

A complete draft of the script has been finished:
• https://www.slashfilm.com/clerks-3-script-update/
• https://collider.com/kevin-smith-clerks-3-gerard-way-details/

And shooting is set for this summer (read the text under picture of the $37 bill):
https://www.inputmag.com/culture/director-kevin-smith-killroy-was-here-clerks-3-jay-silent-bob-nft-sales

Also, in one or more of those links it's mentioned that a Mallrats sequel is also in development.

Jeff Anderson never has revealed why he initially declined to do a 3rd Clerks movie back in 2017, nor why he changed his mind in 2019 to be back in it. It's all speculation. I'm not sure if it's because what you think, but perhaps there is some to that he was at first affected by the death of his ex-wife (who played Caitlyn), although both actors were long divorced and each long remarried to new spouses at the time of her death. And perhaps Anderson felt bad after Smith had his big heart attack in 2018, and maybe felt along with Smith and others that it really will be their last chance to do a final Clerks. But something tells me money also has a big part in the decisions...

I'm glad it's being done and hope it lives up to its predecessors (Clerks 2 is underrated and a faithful sequel to the original), but if it never happened it wouldn't have really bummed me out. Perhaps because how the story of Clerks 2 ended—definitely not "on a down note"... no other spoilers!

Clerks 3 is happening and the actors who played Dante and Randal will be playing them again:
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/kevin-smith-clerks-3-announced/

The premise/basic plot has been revealed:
https://news.avclub.com/kevin-smith-says-clerks-3-is-about-the-clerks-making-cl-1838944158

A complete draft of the script has been finished:
• https://www.slashfilm.com/clerks-3-script-update/
• https://collider.com/kevin-smith-clerks-3-gerard-way-details/

And shooting is set for this summer (read the text under picture of the $37 bill):
https://www.inputmag.com/culture/director-kevin-smith-killroy-was-here-clerks-3-jay-silent-bob-nft-sales

Also, in one or more of those links it's mentioned that a Mallrats sequel is also in development.

Jeff Anderson never has revealed why he initially declined to do a 3rd Clerks movie back in 2017, nor why he changed his mind in 2019 to be back in it. It's all speculation. I'm not sure if it's because what you think, but perhaps there is some to that he was at first affected by the death of his ex-wife (who played Caitlyn), although both actors were long divorced and each long remarried to new spouses at the time of her death. And perhaps Anderson felt bad after Smith had his big heart attack in 2018, and maybe felt along with Smith and others that it really will be their last chance to do a final Clerks. But something tells me money also has a big part in the decisions...

I'm glad it's being done and hope it lives up to its predecessors (Clerks 2 is underrated and a faithful sequel to the original), but if it never happened it wouldn't have really bummed me out. Perhaps because how the story of Clerks 2 ended—definitely not "on a down note"... no other spoilers!
- Bendecko

jesus please no -- Kevin Smith should not do this