got it


- jimbro83

- HenryHockey

Don't worry we'll trade you Georgiev for our 2nd round pick back

Don't worry we'll trade you Georgiev for our 2nd round pick back
- jimbro83

There will be better choices... Bernier for 2 more years is all that is needed for now. Or Freddie, Ullmark or Halak even, Driedger, or even Hill...A lot of better options.

Well for starters, only two of the teams in your division would have even made the playoffs in ours. Somehow the Jets lost what seems like 20 games in a row, still comfortably made it in.
- 2sticks1puck

so you are basing this all on points playing 6 teams in your division? lol. that makes zero sense.
nice try though. I can also make ridiculous points like the North division is the only division with one team under 50 points where every other division had multiple. the Rangers got to play the Sabres how many times? is there even another team in the league within ten points of the Sabres?

comparing teams this year is ridiculous as is handing out a Presidents trophy for most points.

you guys wanna see bizarro world?

game 4 Bruins-Devils 1988 after the Koharski fat pig donut incident

Sam Rosen and Phil Esposito calling the game

Matt Lauer an announcer in the hallways

Larry Brooks the Devils media guy

https://youtu.be/3Ub_gNMGlJY?t=2093
- jimbro83

A fellow named Paul McGuinness, in being one of the Devils two regular season goal judges, and otherwise, an ice hockey rink manager in the tri-state area as well back then, had replaced referee Dan Koharski to ref the balance of that game. That due to Koharski's refusal to finish the game once Devils head coach then in Schoenfeld yelled at him to "have another doughnut you fat pig."

A fellow named Paul McGuinness, in being one of the Devils two regular season goal judges, and otherwise, an ice hockey rink manager in the tri-state area as well back then, had replaced referee Dan Koharski to ref the balance of that game. That due to Koharski's refusal to finish the game once Devils head coach then in Schoenfeld yelled at him to "have another doughnut you fat pig."
- RangerSaver

Where have you been and why are you back?

so you are basing this all on points playing 6 teams in your division? lol. that makes zero sense.
nice try though. I can also make ridiculous points like the North division is the only division with one team under 50 points where every other division had multiple. the Rangers got to play the Sabres how many times? is there even another team in the league within ten points of the Sabres?

comparing teams this year is ridiculous as is handing out a Presidents trophy for most points.
- Ross77

I agree it's not an apples to apples comparison, but teams in the north also got to play the Senators a ton of times. Last season the Sabres actually scored more points than them. You have to admit, the Leafs are probably the only team against the other teams in the league you'd potentially take in a 7 game series. Montreal is scrappy and probably could give a few teams issues, and Edmonton because of the star power. Other than that, I mean the division is toilet paper soft.

which is really stupid because if AZ wins, they re-draw, so what's the point
- ELew11

They are forfeiting their pick. They have to be assigned a pick first. If they win the lottery, don't they just forfeit 1OA and everybody moves up? Basically giving the Sabres an extra 2.5%.

They are forfeiting their pick. They have to be assigned a pick first. If they win the lottery, don't they just forfeit 1OA and everybody moves up? Basically giving the Sabres an extra 2.5%.
- Tonybere

They still need to be in the lottery to keep the odds correct, but I know I read somewhere if they win either spot, they will re-draw

They still need to be in the lottery to keep the odds correct, but I know I read somewhere if they win either spot, they will re-draw
- ELew11

Really? That seems dumb. They forfeit no matter where they are picking. Just settle it, take them out and move everyone up. Seems fair to me.

Where have you been and why are you back?
- JRR1285

A fellow named Paul McGuinness, in being one of the Devils two regular season goal judges, and otherwise, an ice hockey rink manager in the tri-state area as well back then, had replaced referee Dan Koharski to ref the balance of that game. That due to Koharski's refusal to finish the game once Devils head coach then in Schoenfeld yelled at him to "have another doughnut you fat pig."
- RangerSaver

You know, when someone references something, the fat pig in this case, you don’t have to repeat it like it wasn’t stated already. It’s kinda dooshish 🤷🏻‍♂️

But I guess that’s what you get when you copy and paste

I agree it's not an apples to apples comparison, but teams in the north also got to play the Senators a ton of times. Last season the Sabres actually scored more points than them. You have to admit, the Leafs are probably the only team against the other teams in the league you'd potentially take in a 7 game series. Montreal is scrappy and probably could give a few teams issues, and Edmonton because of the star power. Other than that, I mean the division is toilet paper soft.
- 2sticks1puck

Edmonton is scary solely based on McJesus. Watching the Leafs and Oilers as much as I did this year, I can say without question, Mathews, Draisitl and whoever else you want to add are not even close to McDavid.

Edmonton is scary solely based on McJesus. Watching the Leafs and Oilers as much as I did this year, I can say without question, Mathews, Draisitl and whoever else you want to add are not even close to McDavid.
- Ross77

McDavid could down as the greatest player of all time. Considering the age the NHL is in now. Defense first. Better goalies/bigger equipment etc. The Gretzky/Leimeux era was a lot easier to score.

104 pts in 55 games is quite impressive

I knew I read it somewhere. It's at the top of the Tankathon page. Assuming they are accurate..?????


2021 NHL Draft Lottery Simulator
Lottery odds with Seattle expansion are an estimate until official 2021 odds are released.
The Seattle Kraken will be given the 3rd best lottery odds.
If Arizona is selected in top 2, there will be a re-draw.

McDavid could down as the greatest player of all time. Considering the age the NHL is in now. Defense first. Better goalies/bigger equipment etc. The Gretzky/Leimeux era was a lot easier to score.

104 pts in 55 games is quite impressive
- Slimtj100

Gretzky was such a cheat code. I think people forget just how insane he was for a stretch of time. By the time he got here, he was clearly aging and in decline and yet still almost helped drag us to the Final

Gretzky was such a cheat code. I think people forget just how insane he was for a stretch of time. By the time he got here, he was clearly aging and in decline and yet still almost helped drag us to the Final
- 2sticks1puck

Just saying you put McDavid in the 80s, with his speed, oh man what he would do

Gretzky was such a cheat code. I think people forget just how insane he was for a stretch of time. By the time he got here, he was clearly aging and in decline and yet still almost helped drag us to the Final
- 2sticks1puck

If he comes straight to us and doesn't stop off in St Louis, I think maybe we do better in 96

If he comes straight to us and doesn't stop off in St Louis, I think maybe we do better in 96
- MeltingPlastic

Might be another cup that year.

Just saying you put McDavid in the 80s, with his speed, oh man what he would do
- Slimtj100

It's possible he puts up insane numbers. The counter argument though would be he wouldn't have access to the training and regimen athletes have now, as well as the equipment. McD is clearly generational, but I just always dismiss arguments of anyone vs Gretzky, because he is the Goat of any sport. His records are just that unfathomable.

It's possible he puts up insane numbers. The counter argument though would be he wouldn't have access to the training and regimen athletes have now, as well as the equipment. McD is clearly generational, but I just always dismiss arguments of anyone vs Gretzky, because he is the Goat of any sport. His records are just that unfathomable.
- 2sticks1puck

McDavid is also pretty well protected in this era. I wonder how he would fare playing in the 80's through the mid 90's especially as the clutch and grab era got under way. You can't always compare players from two different eras. If you transplant them directly an earlier era guy comes in without the benefits the later era guy had and vice versa.

Imagine Gretzky with the benefits of modern training and other resources afforded to todays athletes.

McDavid is also pretty well protected in this era. I wonder how he would fare playing in the 80's through the mid 90's especially as the clutch and grab era got under way. You can't always compare players from two different eras. If you transplant them directly an earlier era guy comes in without the benefits the later era guy had and vice versa.

Imagine Gretzky with the benefits of modern training and other resources afforded to todays athletes.
- JRR1285

All good points.
Given the training and conditioning of today, not to mention the technology of the skates, maybe LeFleur or Orr still turn out to be better skaters.
Oh, and maybe not smoking on the bench, too!!

All good points.
Given the training and conditioning of today, not to mention the technology of the skates, maybe LeFleur or Orr still turn out to be better skaters.
Oh, and maybe not smoking on the bench, too!!
- Tonybere

is McDavid like Lebron to you guys who live in Canada? Honestly he isn't appreciated in America like he should be

is McDavid like Lebron to you guys who live in Canada? Honestly he isn't appreciated in America like he should be
- TPC

Well we are both in Toronto and in my opinion from friends who are Leaf fans, they put Matthews over Mcdavid

is McDavid like Lebron to you guys who live in Canada? Honestly he isn't appreciated in America like he should be
- TPC

He is definitely talked about a lot. I don't watch a ton of media and I can't say that Southern Ontario is truly like the rest of the country, so I don't know really.