and the Vlasic contract on top of that, good lawd
- jimbro83

Burns extension, gonna be paying him 8m until he's 40. But I shouldn't be saying much, the Sabres have handed out some duzzies too.

This is another reason why Im not interested in him. I dont want this attitude on the team. He seems like someone that could get toxic in the locker room if things arent going his way.
- aecliptic

That was my first line of reasoning for not wanting him a year ago and I stand by it.

Zac Jones is not a spare part for Ottawa. He would become the 4th d-man on their organizational chart behind Chabot, Brannstrom and Sanderson.
- TommyGTrain

You are overvaluing Jones, he has played 10 meaningless NHL games. Not sure what his ceiling is but not worth a 2nd line center as of now.

Since Tommy did his, Ill do mine.

1. [Buchnevich to FLA] <~> [2021 1st Rd pick, with some package of decent prospects and/or more picks to NYR]
-- Ok, so this will get a lot of hate around here, Im not exactly sure how Id structure the package. Maybe take this years AND next years 1st round picks. The thing behind this is... we simply have way too many players. We need to thin the heard, make the needed improvements, as well as need to keep some cap space available for 2022 off-season.
2. [Chytil and FLA 2021 1st Rd pick to SJS] <~> [Hertl to NYR]
3. [Strome to MIN] <~> [Greenway to NYR]
4. [Blackwell and Edstrom to CBJ] <~> [Jenner to NYR]
5. [Hajek to LGK] <~> [Reaves and a 2021 5th Rd pick to NYR]

The lineup:

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kravtsov
LAF, Hertl, Kakko
Kreider, Jenner, Greenway
Reaves, Barron, Rooney
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I commemorate this post to Brukie.

Would be interesting if we got Hertl, because Micheletti calls Chytl Hertl at least once a game

If we could get Reaves for Hajak, I do that in 1 second

If we could get Reaves for Hajak, I do that in 1 second
- ELew11

I dont think it would take much to get Reaves. Theyre so tight against the cap they need some breathing room.

Since Tommy did his, Ill do mine.

1.
- aecliptic[Buchnevich to FLA] <~> [2021 1st Rd pick, with some package of decent prospects and/or more picks to NYR]
-- Ok, so this will get a lot of hate around here, Im not exactly sure how Id structure the package. Maybe take this years AND next years 1st round picks. The thing behind this is... we simply have way too many players. We need to thin the heard, make the needed improvements, as well as need to keep some cap space available for 2022 off-season.
2. [Chytil and FLA 2021 1st Rd pick to SJS] <~> [Hertl to NYR]
3. [Strome to MIN] <~> [Greenway to NYR]
4. [Blackwell and Edstrom to CBJ] <~> [Jenner to NYR]
5. [Hajek to LGK] <~> [Reaves and a 2021 5th Rd pick to NYR]

The lineup:

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kravtsov
LAF, Hertl, Kakko
Kreider, Jenner, Greenway
Reaves, Barron, Rooney
______________________________________________________

I commemorate this post to Brukie.

I am flattered.

I just don't understand why Florida wants Buch?
The other problem is: Panthers don't have any good prospects for us other than Lundell and even if they would trade him to us, he is actually too young to help us for the upcoming season. We need players to help us make the playoffs THIS COMING YEAR.

I am flattered.

I just don't understand why Florida wants Buch?
The other problem is: Panthers don't have any good prospects for us other than Lundell and even if they would trade him to us, he is actually too young to help us for the upcoming season. We need players to help us make the playoffs THIS COMING YEAR.
- TommyGTrain

But thats the thing, youre not looking at the team as a whole. That lineup that is up there is ready for now. Hertl, Jenner, Greenway... these are all moves to help us now. We also get in return time, time to develop new guys. Time to accumulate more assets, picks for the future.

But thats the thing, youre not looking at the team as a whole. That lineup that is up there is ready for now. Hertl, Jenner, Greenway... these are all moves to help us now. We also get in return time, time to develop new guys. Time to accumulate more assets, picks for the future.
- aecliptic

OK
Why does Florida make a move for Buch? Panthers are already the 5th highest scoring team in NHL. Getting another offensive player to me is curious.

OK
Why does Florida make a move for Buch?
- TommyGTrain

Oh, Ive just seen and heard several mentions that FLA is very interested in Buchnevich.

I forgot to mention, as far as prospects go, Lundell yes but also Owen Tippett has some hype on him.

I think Chytl & Georgie easily gets us Hertl

Oh, Ive just seen and heard several mentions that FLA is very interested in Buchnevich.

I forgot to mention, as far as prospects go, Lundell yes but also Owen Tippett has some hype on him.
- aecliptic

I hadn't seen Panthers interest in Buch.

Norris or Hertl work for me.

I hadn't seen Panthers interest in Buch.

Norris or Hertl work for me.
- TommyGTrain

I love the idea of Kreider, Jenner, Greenway on a line together. I could see them beating teams up and frustrating the hell out of guys. The 3 of them hitting anything in sight.

Since Tommy did his, Ill do mine.

1.
- aecliptic[Buchnevich to FLA] <~> [2021 1st Rd pick, with some package of decent prospects and/or more picks to NYR]
-- Ok, so this will get a lot of hate around here, Im not exactly sure how Id structure the package. Maybe take this years AND next years 1st round picks. The thing behind this is... we simply have way too many players. We need to thin the heard, make the needed improvements, as well as need to keep some cap space available for 2022 off-season.
2. [Chytil and FLA 2021 1st Rd pick to SJS] <~> [Hertl to NYR]
3. [Strome to MIN] <~> [Greenway to NYR]
4. [Blackwell and Edstrom to CBJ] <~> [Jenner to NYR]
5. [Hajek to LGK] <~> [Reaves and a 2021 5th Rd pick to NYR]

The lineup:

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kravtsov
LAF, Hertl, Kakko
Kreider, Jenner, Greenway
Reaves, Barron, Rooney
______________________________________________________

I commemorate this post to Brukie.

Why Thank You!!

So you just want to unload Buchy for picks and prospects which is ok but why would Fla want Buchy? If they do ok but Id rather try and get a center for him.

So with Hertl you just want to age Chytl? Chytl is 21 Hertl is 27, just age them out? I could see SJ doing this deal.

Why would Minny want Strome??

Why would The Jackets want to move a center for a journey man winger??

Is a 34yo Reaves really the answer?

So you are replacing Strome with Hertl, Chytl with Jenner, Buchy with Greenway and Reaves

I dont think it is much of an upgrade. Some added toughness but how much will an aging Reaves really play?? He is averaging 10 a game now. How much in 2 yrs when we will be competing for a Cup?

Why Thank You!!

So you just want to unload Buchy for picks and prospects which is ok but why would Fla want Buchy? If they do ok but Id rather try and get a center for him.

So with Hertl you just want to age Chytl? Chytl is 21 Hertl is 27, just age them out? I could see SJ doing this deal.

Why would Minny want Strome??

Why would The Jackets want to move a center for a journey man winger??

Is a 34yo Reaves really the answer?

So you are replacing Strome with Hertl, Chytl with Jenner, Buchy with Greenway and Reaves

I dont think it is much of an upgrade. Some added toughness but how much will an aging Reaves really play?? He is averaging 10 a game now. How much in 2 yrs when we will be competing for a Cup?
- Brukie

Reaves is a necessary deterrent even if he plays only 10 mins/game. Having Reaves for a year or 2 buys time for Cuylle or any other "tough" player they draft time to develop.

Why Thank You!!

So you just want to unload Buchy for picks and prospects which is ok but why would Fla want Buchy? If they do ok but Id rather try and get a center for him.

So with Hertl you just want to age Chytl? Chytl is 21 Hertl is 27, just age them out? I could see SJ doing this deal.

Why would Minny want Strome??

Why would The Jackets want to move a center for a journey man winger??

Is a 34yo Reaves really the answer?

So you are replacing Strome with Hertl, Chytl with Jenner, Buchy with Greenway and Reaves

I dont think it is much of an upgrade. Some added toughness but how much will an aging Reaves really play?? He is averaging 10 a game now. How much in 2 yrs when we will be competing for a Cup?
- Brukie

Oh I dont know about the Reaves thing. Another popular move Ive seen is guys going after Lawson Crouse from ARI. I want to say Reaves could be on the taxi squad for games against teams like WSH and NYI for the added grit, but its probably not worth the cap hit for a situation guy.

Strome vs. Hertl.
-- Points wise its a bit of a push. However what you do get from Hertl is: 1. hes far better than Strome at faceoffs, 2. a much better defensive player and 3. has more grit in his game.

Chytil vs. Jenner.
-- Its pretty much the same as the previous comparison. Except Jenner one of the best faceoff guys and physical presence, with an ability to score. Jenner is due to be a FA at the end of next year. Figure sell high on Blackwell with the addition of a center prospect in Edstrom.

Theres no point in making the Buch compariso. However Greenway is a guy who has had an uptick in offensive production but is a physical specimen. MIN has a need at center, whether Strome is the center they want Im not sure.

You say its not much of an upgrade, but do we really need that much of a facelift or just an adjustment to personnel to fill some holes in our game. I feel that the additions of Hertl and Jenner take us from worst to one of the better faceoff teams in the league. We've replaced two centers who are a bit of a defensive liability for ones that are very good defensive centers.

Lets say we lose 10 goals of overall scoring with these trades, however were gave up 25 less goals on the year. Would you say thats significant?

What do you guys think of Trocheck? Hes another guy going into the final year of his contract. Hes a bit smaller than the guys we talk about however every bit as tough and gritty.

OK Mr. Drury ---- lets fix the Rangers:

1) Resign Brendan Smith -- would prefer 1 year deal but would go to 2nd year if $$ were right. Sign Nils Lundkvist to his ELC.

2) Expose Howden Kinkaid and ADA to Seattle and hope one is drafted

3) Trade Hajek straight up for Ryan Reaves. Vegas is tight against cap and even though Reaves only makes $1.7 mill next season, the savings helps Vegas. Hajek does not have arb rights so his $$$ will be low. He will help replace Martinez when he leaves as an UFA.

4) Ryan Strome ( 50% retained )
Zac Jones
Unprotected 2021 1st round pick
Return Sens 2021 4th round pick
Julien Gauthier or Colin Blackwell

to Ottawa for Josh Norris

Strome more than replaces Norris and with 50% reatained, the notoriously cheap Senators don't add too much salary.
Jones provides a valuable addition to their blue line.
Gauthier or Blackwell are inexpensive add -ons to upgrade bottom 6.
Unprotected 1st round pick is a steep price to pay, but the Rangers obtain a young, cost controlled 2C who can actually win faceoffs. I realize this an expensive package to gain a small upgrade, but this is EXACTLY what the team needs. Chances of us winning the Draft Lottery are slim enough that I feel its worth it to make it unprotected.

New Lineup:

LaFreniere Mika Buch
Panarin Norris Kakko
Kreider Chytil Kravtsov
Rooney Barron Reaves

Lindgren Fox
Miller Trouba
Reunanen Smith
Bitetto --- Lundkvist gets full year in Hartford to acclimate to North America

Shesty & Georgi

Team is bigger, stronger and Reaves brings the toughness that we sorely need. None of the above deals blow up our cap now or in the near future. WIN/WIN
- TommyGTrain

Don’t think Vegas has any interest in Hajek and Ottawa isn’t moving Josh Norris

Since Tommy did his, Ill do mine.

1.
- aecliptic[Buchnevich to FLA] <~> [2021 1st Rd pick, with some package of decent prospects and/or more picks to NYR]
-- Ok, so this will get a lot of hate around here, Im not exactly sure how Id structure the package. Maybe take this years AND next years 1st round picks. The thing behind this is... we simply have way too many players. We need to thin the heard, make the needed improvements, as well as need to keep some cap space available for 2022 off-season.
2. [Chytil and FLA 2021 1st Rd pick to SJS] <~> [Hertl to NYR]
3. [Strome to MIN] <~> [Greenway to NYR]
4. [Blackwell and Edstrom to CBJ] <~> [Jenner to NYR]
5. [Hajek to LGK] <~> [Reaves and a 2021 5th Rd pick to NYR]

The lineup:

Panarin, Zibanejad, Kravtsov
LAF, Hertl, Kakko
Kreider, Jenner, Greenway
Reaves, Barron, Rooney
______________________________________________________

I commemorate this post to Brukie.

-Trading Buch for picks is dumb. They need a viable NHL center is they are trading him.

- what’s so ironic about Greenway is that he is JULIAN GAUTHIER lmao by that I mean, the same exact game. There is no way in the world we should trade for Greenway with Gauthier around. Gauthier has to develop into that.

-Hertl only has one yr left. I don’t love trading for him. I love him as a player, but maybe you just wait a year to sign him.

-I was calling for Jenner last year. He’d be a great addition. Him or Kuraly imo should definitely be a Ranger next year. Kuraly is simple, he’s a UFA

-Reaves is beloved out there in Vegas from what I understand. But money wise maybe he’d be available. But if they got him that would be a very smart acquisition. They would immediately dismiss the notion that were pusses lol. He’s another perfect player needed aswell
—————
This is what I would do.

—Trade:
Buch and Chytil

for

Josh Norris and Austin Watson. ((Could eliminate reason to get Reaves at the same time))

**maybe other pieces involved, but those are the main ingredients to it
————-
Sean Kuraly gets 3 yrs 3 mill AAV - he’s our 4th line center, while versatile enough to move up or play some wing. 57% on draws is enormous. Lead by example guy, and being someone from the Bruins dressing room is a big help. Worth more than just pts
—————
Strome for Boone Jenner- 1 for 1. I think Columbus could change identity without Torts, go more skill infused. Strome obviously is more skilled. We know why we want Jenner. Both teams like this trade imo

-dark horse move: we sign Landeskog and make him captain

The lineup:

Laf - Zib - Krav
Panarin - Norris - Kakko
Kreider - Jenner - Blackwell/Gauthier
Watson/Reaves - Kuraly- Rooney/Barron

Don’t think Vegas has any interest in Hajek and Ottawa isn’t moving Josh Norris
- airjan23

Can someone tell me how Norris is an untouchable? Especially when have assets to get someone, almost anyone if you think about it.

And btw, it really annoys me that Jan and posters tell ME something WILL NOT happen. None of you are in these GM rooms, so stop acting like it Another reason this board becomes intolerable sometimes

Sorry for the brute honesty 🤷🏻‍♂️

Can someone tell me how Norris is an untouchable? Especially when have assets to get someone, almost anyone if you think about it.

And btw, it really annoys me that the blogger and posters tell ME something WILL NOT happen. None of you are in these GM rooms, so stop acting like it Another reason this board becomes intolerable sometimes

Sorry for the brute honesty 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Slimtj100

Love you too TJ. I will modify, I don't think Ottawa is dealing Norris, better? A 22-year old first line center making no money and viewed as a core of that team is why I feel that way

And at least call me by name not by third person, you and I have both been here long enough to warrant that.

I gave you my view, I didn't pontificate or say you are an idiot, just said I don't think it happens, but you never know. Throwing offers up on the blog is not my bailiwick, but if you want, feel free, have never said don't do so here.

-Trading Buch for picks is dumb. They need a viable NHL center is they are trading him.

- what’s so ironic about Greenway is that he is JULIAN GAUTHIER lmao by that I mean, the same exact game. There is no way in the world we should trade for Greenway with Gauthier around. Gauthier has to develop into that.

-Hertl only has one yr left. I don’t love trading for him. I love him as a player, but maybe you just wait a year to sign him.

-I was calling for Jenner last year. He’d be a great addition. Him or Kuraly imo should definitely be a Ranger next year. Kuraly is simple, he’s a UFA

-Reaves is beloved out there in Vegas from what I understand. But money wise maybe he’d be available. But if they got him that would be a very smart acquisition. They would immediately dismiss the notion that were pusses lol. He’s another perfect player needed aswell
—————
This is what I would do.

—Trade:
Buch and Chytil

for

Josh Norris and Austin Watson. ((Could eliminate reason to get Reaves at the same time))

**maybe other pieces involved, but those are the main ingredients to it
————-
Sean Kuraly gets 3 yrs 3 mill AAV - he’s our 4th line center, while versatile enough to move up or play some wing. 57% on draws is enormous. Lead by example guy, and being someone from the Bruins dressing room is a big help. Worth more than just pts
—————
Strome for Boone Jenner- 1 for 1. I think Columbus could change identity without Torts, go more skill infused. Strome obviously is more skilled. We know why we want Jenner. Both teams like this trade imo

The lineup:

Laf - Zib - Krav
Panarin - Norris - Kakko
Kreider - Jenner - Blackwell/Gauthier
Watson/Reaves - Kuraly- Rooney/Barron
- Slimtj100

Like I said, the Buch trade might make people scratch their heads however the thing is we dont need MORE players. We need to trim the lineup while also filling in where were lacking.

Josh Norris is a massive pipedream, like me and Barkov. It would have to be a massive overpay for OTT to even consider it. A trade for Norris that may require a few players and an overpay might be exactly what we need as far as a homerun/blockbuster move, I just dont see it happening.

As far as Gauthier goes, maybe youre right, he might be able to be that player and Im not against holding onto him and maybe in the right system he can.

If we cant land Reaves, a guy like Martinook could be available as a FA. Carolina has to resign Hamilton and Svechnikov, as well as a bunch of bottom 6 guys which might mean they let him walk.

As far as a 4th line center, I think were ok with Rooney/Barron. We cant sign anyone to anything majorly significant for that because of how much we will tie up the following year in FA signings leaving a very tight margin for resigning LAF and Miller.

Love you too TJ. I will modify, I don't think Ottawa is dealing Norris, better? A 22-year old first line center making no money and viewed as a core of that team is why I feel that way

And at least call me by name not by third person, you and I have both been here long enough to warrant that.

I gave you my view, I didn't pontificate or say you are an idiot, just said I don't think it happens, but you never know. Throwing offers up on the blog is not my bailiwick, but if you want, feel free, have never said don't do so here.
- airjan23

Fair, I’ll edit mine to first person.

I mean it’s the summer, our team is out and it can be boring. Why not throw lineups out there? Instead we’ll talk about what size sausage a woman prefers.

Point made?


*None of this is directed at you Jan. Just find this place gets super annoying sometimes.

Fair, I’ll edit mine to first person.

I mean it’s the summer, our team is out and it can be boring. Why not throw lineups out there? Instead we’ll talk about what size sausage a woman prefers.

Point made?


*None of this is directed at you Jan. Just find this place gets super annoying sometimes.
- Slimtj100

Theres always twittter if you get annoyed with us.