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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 15 @ 4:29 PM ET
How dare you question Terry’s hockey knowledge. The pegula’s clearly know more than you about hockey. You are a lowly FAN. What could you POSSIBLY know about the inner workings of icing a successful hockey team in the NHL! Buffalo is hockey heaven damn it! Just look at the success Terry and Kim have brought to the Buffalo Sabres...
- Gr8daygo


Reminds me of Kim Pegula's comments last off season about being optimistic and "knowing some things the fans might not know"

I still get angry when I think about that
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 4:30 PM ET
just a reminder

at the 2016 draft


we thought our top 6 was set with

kane-ror-reinhart
vesey-eichel-nylander

- homiedclown



It should have been, though.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
Does Terry know the stick is upside down.
- IonSabres



Jesus.

Maybe she IS the brains in the operation.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 15 @ 4:33 PM ET
Jesus.

Maybe she IS the brains in the operation.

- Powerslave


Now you are catching on to the problem with the Buffalo Sabres
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
Laff
Kakko
Zibs
Georgiev
2021 1st

The Rangers have no leverage and the best player in the deal is and always will be Eichel. Bend them over and don’t offer a reach a round.

- dadeadhead


Not a Georgiev fan,
but this is a legitimate return for Eichel
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
Not a Georgiev fan,
but this is a legitimate return for Eichel

- jdfitz77



Yeah, rather have Shesterkin.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
Not much different than having a NMC.

I’ll go sit on the beach in California until I’m dealt to where ever I want to go play.

Your move

- Pegullaville


Sure sounded like Eichel wanted to get back out on the ice ASAP
There’s absolutely ZERO CHANCE he sits out for
FIVE YEARS just waiting to be traded
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
Sure sounded like Eichel wanted to get back out on the ice ASAP
There’s absolutely ZERO CHANCE he sits out for
FIVE YEARS just waiting to be traded

- jdfitz77

adams said we only want to keep guys that want to be here

IMO that gives Jack the wiggle room to sit out a month and test their patience

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 15 @ 4:38 PM ET
Sure sounded like Eichel wanted to get back out on the ice ASAP
There’s absolutely ZERO CHANCE he sits out for
FIVE YEARS just waiting to be traded

- jdfitz77


I'm not worried about him sitting out. But he could just mail in his performance and tank his value. Just play half assed
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
just a reminder

at the 2016 draft


we thought our top 6 was set with

kane-ror-reinhart
vesey-eichel-nylander

- homiedclown


Vesey & Nylander were very much question marks
But the forwards weren’t the problem
It was the AWFUL defense that gmtm’s dumba$$ put together
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
Yeah, rather have Shesterkin.
- Powerslave


Agreed
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
I'm not worried about him sitting out. But he could just mail in his performance and tank his value. Just play half assed
- jcragcrumple

after Heatley turned down the trade to the oilers, when Heatley finally showed up to practice, Murray was on record as saying


"When I looked (Heatley) in the eye, I knew the minute he walked out the door that I had to trade him," GM Bryan Murray said a short time later. "I didn’t think there was any chance. I just felt that we had to move him."



I really think it's going to be that case if he comes to training camp this fall
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
adams said we only want to keep guys that want to be here

IMO that gives Jack the wiggle room to sit out a month and test their patience

- homiedclown


Sure

I would let him sit
Tough to say what Adams would do
And would the Pegula’s be ok with the decision Adams makes?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
It should have been, though.
- Powerslave


2016-17 could have gone differently if Eichel, ROR and Okposo didn't all miss time. They would have at least been playing Meaningful Games in March™️

Might have changed everything
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 4:44 PM ET
Sure sounded like Eichel wanted to get back out on the ice ASAP
There’s absolutely ZERO CHANCE he sits out for
FIVE YEARS just waiting to be traded

- jdfitz77


Who said anything about 5 years ?

Did Carson Palmer sit out 5 years ?

You think the Texans will let Deshaun Watson sit out 5 years without getting any sort of return ?

Chicago took Brandon Saad for Panarin.

The Sabres are in a tough spot.

Welcome to the new age of professional sports. Players are going to dictate their destinations. You’re seeing it in the NBA, MLB, NFL, everywhere.

I’m a year older then Jack. Born in the same year as Reinhart and Olofsson.

If the thought is crossing my mind, you don’t think it isn’t crossing the mind of the guy making the $10M who knows in 14 months he can hold out and go wherever he wants ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 4:44 PM ET
Vesey & Nylander were very much question marks
But the forwards weren’t the problem
It was the AWFUL defense that gmtm’s dumba$$ put together

- jdfitz77

franson
bogo
kulikov
gorges
falk


to go with risto and mccabe
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:45 PM ET
I'm not worried about him sitting out. But he could just mail in his performance and tank his value. Just play half assed
- jcragcrumple


Doubt it
Guys that competing are wired to just go out & play

Regardless....
i have absolutely no reason to worry about Eichel tanking his value until he starts to do it

Also.... his preferred team may not want him then if they see him pulling that kind of bs
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 4:45 PM ET
Sure

I would let him sit
Tough to say what Adams would do
And would the Pegula’s be ok with the decision Adams makes?

- jdfitz77

my guess is it would be more are the pegula's ok with the decision they make
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:49 PM ET
Who said anything about 5 years ?

Did Carson Palmer sit out 5 years ?

You think the Texans will let Deshaun Watson sit out 5 years without getting any sort of return ?

Chicago took Brandon Saad for Panarin.

The Sabres are in a tough spot.

Welcome to the new age of professional sports. Players are going to dictate their destinations. You’re seeing it in the NBA, MLB, NFL, everywhere.

I’m a year older then Jack. Born in the same year as Reinhart and Olofsson.

If the thought is crossing my mind, you don’t think it isn’t crossing the mind of the guy making the $10M who knows in 14 months he can hold out and go wherever he wants ?

- Pegullaville


He can’t go “wherever he wants” in 14months
Even once the NMC kicks in, we can still say:
“This is the best offer we got for you, either u agree to go there- or u can stay on our roster.
Don’t like it? Keep sitting out then, whatever”

Plus every year he sits out (when he CLEARLY wants to be on the ice ASAP based on his end of year zoom call) he misses doing the thing HE LOVES- and loses A TON of money
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
franson
bogo
kulikov
gorges
falk


to go with risto and mccabe

- homiedclown


Like i said.... “awful”
And gmtm traded McNabb like a moron too
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:51 PM ET
my guess is it would be more are the pegula's ok with the decision they make
- homiedclown


Regardless of semantics, u get my point
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
He can’t go “wherever he wants” in 14months
Even once the NMC kicks in, we can still say:
“This is the best offer we got for you, either u agree to go there- or u can stay on our roster.
Don’t like it? Keep sitting out then, whatever”

Plus every year he sits out (when he CLEARLY wants to be on the ice ASAP based on his end of year zoom call) he misses doing the thing HE LOVES- and loses A TON of money

- jdfitz77


Right and him sitting out hurts whom more exactly ?

Eichel could not play hockey at all next year, miss out on $10M, and still make over $100M over the course of the next 10 + years.

What do the Sabres gain by having Eichel play for HC Davos with having nothing to show for it ?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
Right and him sitting out hurts whom more exactly ?

Eichel could not play hockey at all next year, miss out on $10M, and still make over $100M over the course of the next 10 + years.

What do the Sabres gain by having Eichel play for HC Davos with having nothing to show for it ?

- Pegullaville


$10M in cap space the next 5 seasons...?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
Now you are catching on to the problem with the Buffalo Sabres
- Gr8daygo



Not that is am defending the Pegulas but they were shovels made from hockey sticks...the shovel part was digging
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
$10M in cap space the next 5 seasons...?
- kingcong39


And that’s worse then excepting a couple of B prospects and a cap dump then getting nothing for him.

Point proven.
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