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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
We need to temper expectations right know, see what happens.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
I threw this out yesterday

Chytil, Kakko, Georgiev and Zac Jones

- homiedclown


Kakko has had a worse start than Yakupov, stay away from him.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 15 @ 10:37 AM ET
Kakko has great underlying numbers. Just did not put up points this year. He will top out as a 50-60 point guy eventually playing top 6 minutes. Hes played on the 3rd line for 2 years now. Hard to get him minutes with Buch, laf, panarin, kreider on the wings
- nyrangers2


Ya, competition is high, no doubt, but still he should be producing more.
Maybe his breakout comes by being moved...maybe.
I still don't make him the primary piece..3rd-ish.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 15 @ 10:43 AM ET
Ya, competition is high, no doubt, but still he should be producing more.
Maybe his breakout comes by being moved...maybe.
I still don't make him the primary piece..3rd-ish.

- IonSabres


The bottom line is the Sabres need at least one unlimited ceiling prospect in a trade (in addition to more 1st round grade assets). This doesn't offer that
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
The bottom line is the Sabres need at least one unlimited ceiling prospect in a trade. This doesn't offer that
- jcragcrumple


What does this mean?
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
We need to temper expectations right know, see what happens.
- Buff36


Byfield or Zegras. Maybe DLP, that idea from Kong is interesting.

Use all other teams offers to drive up the price. Like Babcock did with Terry.

Regardless of injury, I’m sure the medical would be shared with others interested. Just like a car fax on a used car.

Jack will be absolutely fine. Rangers don’t have the right pieces and I’d want him in the western conference.

If you don’t get a deal for him that begs you to say yes, fine.... he starts the season, lights it up and you trade him by December...

He’s a top 7 center in the world, period.
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

May 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
I can assure you that no one in Vancouver is giving up Hoglander for Reinhart, never mind adding in the deal. As a rookie he is already scoring half a point a game in limited minutes without much power play time. He is skilled, tough on pucks, and has a motor that never shuts off. A cost controlled player like that on an ELC is worth gold.

Vancouver can just wait a year and get Reinhart for free since it is fairly public knowledge that he wants to come here. His trade value is remarkably low with it being known he wants out and only having one year of club control left. Buffalo has no leverage over the player, if he doesn't agree to an extension to a potential trade destination no one is giving up anything significant for one year of a decent, but not elite player.

I think I can speak for the entire hockey world that no one who wasn't extremely drunk or high gives Buffalo Tkachuk for Reinhart.

- Promethian



Reinhart worth a first and prospect at trade deadline
You would be getting him for 1 year
He will be going to a playoff team
So no need to worry
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
Kakko has had a worse start than Yakupov, stay away from him.
- Mentalorgasm5


his rookie year was awful. This year he looked like a great two way player. Just needs the points and to play top 6 minutes
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
Ya, competition is high, no doubt, but still he should be producing more.
Maybe his breakout comes by being moved...maybe.
I still don't make him the primary piece..3rd-ish.

- IonSabres


Agreed he has the worst shot on the team. When that’s fixed more goals should come
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
The reality is any time a big name player is traded that team almost always loses out. The Rangers don't need Eichel. They can get a very good number 2 center and roll with Zib as the one.

Best offer from the Rangers would be buch, chytl, nils and a 1st. If they move a topyoung player as well it would be kaako, but another pick would have to come back. Eichel carries a large cap hit and has an unknown injury. Trading Eichel a year ago would have fetched a better return. I dont want any part of Eichel or his cap hit. He is a top 5-7 center in the league when healthy tho

- nyrangers2


Where? Buffalo has been searching for 3 years running.
How much is Buchy expected to get in his deal? I suspect he would prefer a 1 year deal to get to UFA next season, or a long term deal. $7.5 - $8m x 7?
Your 1st isn't worth alot at 16 this year, take that out and add Kakko
We have enough puck moving Dmen, replace Linquist with Schneider or Miller
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
The reality is any time a big name player is traded that team almost always loses out. The Rangers don't need Eichel. They can get a very good number 2 center and roll with Zib as the one.

Best offer from the Rangers would be buch, chytl, nils and a 1st. If they move a topyoung player as well it would be kaako, but another pick would have to come back. Eichel carries a large cap hit and has an unknown injury. Trading Eichel a year ago would have fetched a better return. I dont want any part of Eichel or his cap hit. He is a top 5-7 center in the league when healthy tho

- nyrangers2



Your owner seems to think he does.

But, nbd, if the fit isn't there, the Sabres just move on.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
his rookie year was awful. This year he looked like a great two way player. Just needs the points and to play top 6 minutes
- nyrangers2



No you get Lafreniere. Kakko would be like getting Reinhart.

Lafreniere is getting another Eichel / generational talent

You don’t take less than Laf +++
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

May 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
We need to temper expectations right know, see what happens.
- Buff36


Yeah but some of the offers being thrown around by social media are down right criminal
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yeah but some of the offers being thrown around by social media are down right criminal
- Sabretooth9



And comical.

nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
Where? Buffalo has been searching for 3 years running.
How much is Buchy expected to get in his deal? I suspect he would prefer a 1 year deal to get to UFA next season, or a long term deal. $7.5 - $8m x 7?
Your 1st isn't worth alot at 16 this year, take that out and add Kakko
We have enough puck moving Dmen, replace Linquist with Schneider or Miller

- IonSabres


Schneider would be an option. I liked hertl or Monahan but not sure they would be available. If they keep buch he prob gets $6-7m
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
No you get Lafreniere. Kakko would be like getting Reinhart.

Lafreniere is getting another Eichel / generational talent

You don’t take less than Laf +++

- Sabretooth9


I just don’t think Buffalo is going to get a young player back like that. I think it will be the sum of the parts they get make the team better. But who knows. Kings are the best trade partner for you guys
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
Your owner seems to think he does.

But, nbd, if the fit isn't there, the Sabres just move on.

- Powerslave


Dolan loves loves big names. Always has
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
Yeah but some of the offers being thrown around by social media are down right criminal
- Sabretooth9

Agree, but he is hurt, and everyone outside of Sabres fans are gonna through crap at a wall and hope Adams scrapes it off.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
Dolan loves loves big names. Always has
- nyrangers2



Dolan may be the tipping point. I'm sure Drury will tell him that they shouldn't trade player X or player y, but Eichel may just be too tempting.

Who knows? Time will tell. Sabres may not even trade him.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
What does this mean?
- kingcong39


Any deal needs to involve a center prospect with a ceiling of "elite"

Chytl doesn't offer that.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
Any deal needs to involve a center prospect with a ceiling of "elite"

Chytl doesn't offer that.

- jcragcrumple


You're spot on.

If Chytl was the main piece coming back, I'd puke.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
You're spot on.

If Chytl was the main piece coming back, I'd puke.

- Powerslave

he needs to be the third piece, not the main piece
Anderdog
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.17.2021

May 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
We need to temper expectations right know, see what happens.
- Buff36


So according to friedman

Regular surgery and healing takes 6 months

Eichel choice is 3 months

That's why friedman said he believes surgery will happen after trade

Which means he's traded before June 15
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
Byfield or Zegras. Maybe DLP, that idea from Kong is interesting.

Use all other teams offers to drive up the price. Like Babcock did with Terry.

Regardless of injury, I’m sure the medical would be shared with others interested. Just like a car fax on a used car.

Jack will be absolutely fine. Rangers don’t have the right pieces and I’d want him in the western conference.

If you don’t get a deal for him that begs you to say yes, fine.... he starts the season, lights it up and you trade him by December...

He’s a top 7 center in the world, period.

- Gr8daygo

Yes he is when he's healthy, but that injury that puts a big ? mark on him right now.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
Want nothing to do with DLP
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