Yes, but I think that his effort and overall morale is the cause of that, not the analytics themselves.
- sbroads24

Helps having a better overall group around him to

Just looked up Zary's production. I now agree.

How the hell did he last to the 24th overall pick?
- kingcong39

No clue.

I can’t say enough how much better I think quite a few players picked after Quinn will be.

It’s going to look so bad

Edit- including Peterka.

Hope people don't lose there minds if Eichel is dealt, this place will be hell.
- Buff36

If, or do you mean both?

If, or do you mean both?
- kingcong39

Well I guess the mind part is already happening, so Hell.

Helps having a better overall group around him to
- Buff36

Of course. But he wanted to be “the guy”

at least ror finally became a leader
once he left buffalo
- homiedclown

U mean he went to a team that was well built & showed he was a winner

U guys were all wrong saying we should trade him

U guys were all wrong saying it was a good return

And the few of you who said ROR was “easily replaceable” came out looking utterly ridiculous

No clue.

I can’t say enough how much better I think quite a few players picked after Quinn will be.

It’s going to look so bad

Edit- including Peterka.
- sbroads24

We need him to be a stud in the worst possible way. It will be nice when one of the late firsts early seconds turns into a stud for us.

It’s funny how two other people said he’s a #5 on that page and you singled out my post lol.

He’s a 5.
- sbroads24

Yours was the 1st i saw
And no, he’s not a “5”
He’s a good 2nd pair defenseman

So I didn't miss anything?

Good.

Yours was the 1st i saw
And no, he’s not a “5”
He’s a good 2nd pair defenseman
- jdfitz77

Nah, that ship has sailed.

Any proof he was a top 4 D man this season? Anything at all?

So I didn't miss anything?

Good.
- jochfr

Turns out Bruce Willis's character was dead THE WHOLE TIME

And ROR signed long term with Buffalo.

If Sam is adamant on going to the market it may have an effect on the return.

Pageau got a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd as a UFA and then signed in Long Island long term. Maybe that’s what we are looking at in a Sam trade
- Pegullaville

We don’t know that though
We are assuming Sam doesn’t wanna sign HERE long term
But that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t sign somewhere else long term

This is really a long roundabout way of blaming analytics?

O’Reilly’s “analytics” here we’re still solid. It was actually everything else IMO.
- sbroads24

As always with stats, it depends which ones you choose to use to make your case

Turns out Bruce Willis's character was dead THE WHOLE TIME
- jcragcrumple

Of course. But he wanted to be “the guy”
- sbroads24

Well yes, but it sure helped him become "the guy" with the team they had, didn't have that here.

Nah, that ship has sailed.

Any proof he was a top 4 D man this season? Anything at all?
- sbroads24

How about EVERY coach he’s had playing him as such (or better)?

Seems like u believe u know more than them,
but you don’t dude. Sorry to tell ya

[quote=jdfitz77]
Yeah. That logic works for Tyler Myers I guess then too?

Results don’t matter?

Risto blows.

And now he doesn’t even put up good “pointzzzzz”

U mean he went to a team that was well built & showed he was a winner

U guys were all wrong saying we should trade him

U guys were all wrong saying it was a good return

And the few of you who said ROR was “easily replaceable” came out looking utterly ridiculous
- jdfitz77

Wasn't here yet, but I will go on record saying we shouldn't have traded for him in the 1st place, we weren't ready.

As always with stats, it depends which ones you choose to use to make your case
- Michael Pachla

We still haven’t “easily replaced” O’Reilly like his haters tried to make us believe was possible

Hopefully Cozens can build on a decent rookie season to at least become a “2C”
I wonder (if Jack & Sam go) that it hurts- or helps- his development???

Yeah. That logic works for Tyler Myers I guess then too?

Results don’t matter?

Risto blows.

And now he doesn’t even put up good “pointzzzzz”

- sbroads24

What’s Myers got to do with this?
Besides..... you LOVE him

Wasn't here yet, but I will go on record saying we shouldn't have traded for him in the 1st place, we weren't ready.
- Buff36

Disagree

If u can acquire a good YOUNG player,
then go for it
He fit our timeline just fine

The failure,
was that gmtm put together an absolutely awful defense overall
Not being able to get the puck out of our zone & up ice absolutely killed us

What’s Myers got to do with this?
Besides..... you LOVE him
- jdfitz77

Myers is a bottom pairing D man who always gets top 4 minutes

Coaches love him = good too 4 D man.

It’s flawed logic.

They both suck

Just read a proposal reported on Spoertnet up here in Canada.

Eichel to the Flames for Tkachuk , Zarybamd the 2021 1st round pick.

I think that’s a pretty sweet deal for both teams.
- HonkyTonkMan

it's not bad

probably end up being pick 11
a proven first line winger with control
mid first round prospect that seems to be developing

I would try to get a second rd pick added or someone like Poirier

nhl has no clue what they want

other then $$$$$$$$$


never seen any other sport take their fans for granted like Buttman and the NHL
- homiedclown

But they painted the ice for an entire year!

Myers is a bottom pairing D man who always gets top 4 minutes

Coaches love him = good too 4 D man.

It’s flawed logic.

They both suck
- sbroads24

So you’re FINALLY admitting you were wrong about Myers then?

You’re right that neither one of these guys panned out to be the “#1” defenseman they were drafted to be
But that doesn’t mean they’re “3rd pair guys who suck”

You’re just exaggerating again bc of your disappointment


We ALL know u don’t like Risto dude
Fine
Just let it go ffs
He’ll be gone soon enough & u can find someone else on our team to hate on