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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 19 @ 9:01 AM ET
Parting is such sweet sorrow
- RhinoFan


I still can't believe we are about to lose our top 2 offensive players and Risto..

What a mess...
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 19 @ 9:05 AM ET
Good read, thanks for providing the link.

If Adams is smart, he would try to find two good suitors in the same division to trade each of Eichel and Sam...even same conference would work. Like Sam to LA and Eichel to Anaheim..or The Wild and VGK...
Create an arms race to drive up the return.

- IonSabres

Not a bad idea, definitely could get very interesting.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:08 AM ET
Hope not, but it doesn't look good. Time will tell.
- Buff36

"Given Reinhart's reluctance to play for a rebuilding club in Buffalo..."

what's the best way to convince a player to shuck his 'reluctance' and stay with a particular club?

money and term...maybe even a 'C' on the sweater too...

granted, rumor has it he wants to go west, but if the team wants him to stay, those are the things that can mitigate 'reluctance'
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 19 @ 9:09 AM ET
I still can't believe we are about to lose our top 2 offensive players and Risto..

What a mess...

- hehateme


Or
What an opportunity with
A) the returns
B) additional $20m in Cap, less the Caps of the returns
C) better culture from players who actually want to be here ... which is now an issue with all three rolling into the 21-22 season.

The big question in my mind is can KA and JK maximize the returns.
To be seen...same bat channel...stay tuned.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 19 @ 9:11 AM ET
that tv site works great FTR
- homiedclown



Welcome!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 19 @ 9:11 AM ET
"Top 5 Potential Landing Spots for Buffalo Sabres Center Sam Reinhart" https://syndication.bleac...ter-sam-reinhart.amp.html
- Buff36


If the Sabres are rebuilding, they'll want a return of at least either a high draft pick or top prospect plus a good, young, NHL-ready player. They could ask for rookie Nils Hoglander plus promising Vasili Podkolzin or Jack Rathbone. The Canucks could insist that underachieving Jake Virtanen be part of the return to shed his $2.55 million cap hit for next season.


Pretty sure Virtanen is untradable right now. He's being sued for sexual assault.

The rest looks good
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:16 AM ET
Or
What an opportunity with
A) the returns
B) additional $20m in Cap, less the Caps of the returns
C) better culture from players who actually want to be here ... which is now an issue with all three rolling into the 21-22 season.

The big question in my mind is can KA and JK maximize the returns.
To be seen...same bat channel...stay tuned.

- IonSabres




IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 19 @ 9:18 AM ET
"Given Reinhart's reluctance to play for a rebuilding club in Buffalo..."

what's the best way to convince a player to shuck his 'reluctance' and stay with a particular club?

money and term...maybe even a 'C' on the sweater too...

granted, rumor has it he wants to go west, but if the team wants him to stay, those are the things that can mitigate 'reluctance'

- Michael Pachla


Sam's going to get his money, and protection that comes with a long term contract...this offseason or next.
The C would have value to him I would think...how much if the perception is the roster will still suck for a couple more years as he pisses away his career...probably not much.

But, IMO the change in heart only comes from the organization actually assemble a friggin competitive roster with significant growth into future years ... i.e. get good, promising, young players...
Seems like the way to do that is to fully leverage Eichel, Sam, Risto.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 19 @ 9:20 AM ET
Pretty sure Virtanen is untradable right now. He's being sued for sexual assault.

The rest looks good

- jcragcrumple


I'm going to add him to the roster I'm building of the most hated players
Wilson
Kane
DeAngelo
Virtanen
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 19 @ 9:21 AM ET

- Michael Pachla


Leave Flipper alone
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:23 AM ET
Sam's going to get his money, and protection that comes with a long term contract...this offseason or next.
The C would have value to him I would think...how much if the perception is the roster will still suck for a couple more years as he pisses away his career...probably not much.

But, IMO the change in heart only comes from the organization actually assemble a friggin competitive roster with significant growth into future years ... i.e. get good, promising, young players...
Seems like the way to do that is to fully leverage Eichel, Sam, Risto.

- IonSabres

i'm in...do that, keep donnie meatballs and seth appert in place to continue the youngins development, in a couple years evaluate where the players are individually and as a team, evaluate what kind of a coach meatballs is--whether a developer of talent or a bona fide nhl coach who can win at this level--and move forward from there...

i'd prefer they keep one of jack or sam and think the latter would be the better idea, but..c'est la vie
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 19 @ 9:26 AM ET
i'm in...do that, keep donnie meatballs and seth appert in place to continue the youngins development, in a couple years evaluate where the players are individually and as a team, evaluate what kind of a coach meatballs is--whether a developer of talent or a bona fide nhl coach who can win at this level--and move forward from there...

i'd prefer they keep one of jack or sam and think the latter would be the better idea, but..c'est la vie

- Michael Pachla


The above captures where my head is at...but I go 60/40 on trading/retaining Sam. I think once Jack is dealt, he'll want absolutely zero to do with the Sabres though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 19 @ 9:28 AM ET

- Michael Pachla

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:31 AM ET
The above captures where my head is at...but I go 60/40 on trading/retaining Sam. I think once Jack is dealt, he'll want absolutely zero to do with the Sabres though.
- IonSabres

fair statement, then again is there an allure to having these sabres as "his team"?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
I still can't believe we are about to lose our top 2 offensive players and Risto..

What a mess...

- hehateme


Ion isn't wrong, it's an opportunity to improve quickly if you can maximize returns.

Given their track record, I am quite worried.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 19 @ 9:33 AM ET

- Michael Pachla


Godzilla would have done it better.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 19 @ 9:33 AM ET

- homiedclown


Don't enable. It's Godzilla or it's in a skimpy dress, there are no exceptions here.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:34 AM ET

- homiedclown

the camp that enveloped that show may be unrivaled
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:34 AM ET
Don't enable. It's Godzilla or it's in a skimpy dress, there are no exceptions here.
- RhinoFan

"holy smackdown, batman!"
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
"Given Reinhart's reluctance to play for a rebuilding club in Buffalo..."

what's the best way to convince a player to shuck his 'reluctance' and stay with a particular club?

money and term...maybe even a 'C' on the sweater too...

granted, rumor has it he wants to go west, but if the team wants him to stay, those are the things that can mitigate 'reluctance'

- Michael Pachla

Time will tell Pach's, IMO think he's the one that stays, but I'm wrong alot.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
"holy smackdown, batman!"
- Michael Pachla




Remember when they started running out of holy options and started using food stuff?

Holy Fruit Salad happened.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Time will tell Pach's, IMO think he's the one that stays, but I'm wrong alot.
- Buff36

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 19 @ 9:44 AM ET


Remember when they started running out of holy options and started using food stuff?

Holy Fruit Salad happened.

- RhinoFan

no...but that's friggen funny
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Pretty sure Virtanen is untradable right now. He's being sued for sexual assault.

The rest looks good

- jcragcrumple

Should be some options for him, if he's dealt what he did moving to C definitely helped in a return for him.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
I’ve worked at places that don’t allow smoke breaks when you’re working too

On the surface, (some) ppl will say it’s discrimination

There’s a fine line i guess

- jdfitz77


We did an undocumented study at my work of like 4 or 5 smokers.

They were taking about 1.5 hours per day in smoke breaks.


There are some places that offer more vacation time for non smokers too because of complaints about how much extra work they have to do.

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