Just admit he’s not good anymore guys it’ll be okay. I promise your soul won’t explode
- Fopa21

He’s not as good as he once was, that’s for certain, however, if you look around the league you don’t have to be the teams best player to be it’s captains, that’s just nonsense. He’s a leader in the room, he’s one of the teams hardest workers, he’s respected by his teammates, etc.

Landeskog is probably the Avs fourth best player and he’s their captain. Getzlaf isn’t the Ducks best player, Toews isn’t the Blackhawks best player, Mark Giordano isn’t the Flames best player, Jordan Staal isn’t the Hurricanes best player, Shea Weber isn’t Montreal’s best player, Anders Lee isn’t the Islanders best player, Horvat isn’t the Canucks best player, Tavares isn’t the Leafs best player......should I go on?

I don't know why some people expect Giroux to be constantly putting up massive numbers like younger in their prime players making way more money than him

he's 33 making $8.25M, if a team is expecting their oldest forward to carry the team then they've got bigger problems than just one player's performance

the most important thing Giroux can do for the rest of his Flyers career is raise the kids right

Just admit he’s not good anymore guys it’ll be okay. I promise your soul won’t explode
- Fopa21

If G is not good anymore what does it say about the rest of the team? Almost everyone of them he outperformed at age 33.

I don't know why some people expect Giroux to be constantly putting up massive numbers like younger in their prime players making way more money than him

he's 33 making $8.25M, if a team is expecting their oldest forward to carry the team then they've got bigger problems than just one player's performance

the most important thing Giroux can do for the rest of his Flyers career is raise the kids right
- Coburns_Nose

There’s a lot more to being an NHL captain then just being a great offensive player, Zdeno Chara was a great defenceman but he wasn’t always the Bruins best player. Every Bruin player had a massive amount of respect for that guy as their captain because of the way he carried himself, the things he said, and how hard he worked on and off the ice.

Did not have the chance to comment before

I went to the Phantoms game Saturday and was not impressed with Gordons "system" and its execution. The backwards regroup to break someone on the wing seemed like a lot more prayers than passes.The baby Pens were all over them the first 2 periods. The Phantoms had little time to execute and certain players seemed to hold onto the puck too damned long. Cam York who may have had a great game otherwise, was guilty of not paying attention to the backdoor on the Pens only regulation goal. Seems problematic to this entire organization at all levels- backdoor plays. The game for 40 minutes reeked of an old joke of letting the opposition get tired from shooting.

There are certain players like Allison who are going to be up again. No need to editorialize on that. The refs at that game should be sent into a noreaster on a leaky boat with no life jackets or life boats . As Bill mentioned previously a cross check to Allisons neck right in front of the ref was ignored. It was blatant and everyone in that arena knew it.. Of course that means he passed the NHL test for screwing certain teams...

He’s not as good as he once was, that’s for certain, however, if you look around the league you don’t have to be the teams best player to be it’s captains, that’s just nonsense. He’s a leader in the room, he’s one of the teams hardest workers, he’s respected by his teammates, etc.

Landeskog is probably the Avs fourth best player and he’s their captain. Getzlaf isn’t the Ducks best player, Toews isn’t the Blackhawks best player, Mark Giordano isn’t the Flames best player, Jordan Staal isn’t the Hurricanes best player, Shea Weber isn’t Montreal’s best player, Anders Lee isn’t the Islanders best player, Horvat isn’t the Canucks best player, Tavares isn’t the Leafs best player......should I go on?
- DraftandDestroy

You’re high if you think he is a hard worker. What does he work hard at? What does he do? Defense? Forchecking? Physicality? Hustle in genreal? You honestly watch the game & think he’s working hard? & if he’s a leader in the room than that speaks even more to how far away the franchise is with the way they played this season & basically every other season with G being the leader. It’s a dumpster fire

If G is not good anymore what does it say about the rest of the team? Almost everyone of them he outperformed at age 33.
- Djapana

It says that he’s still given more opportunity than anyone else. How do you watch games & not know that. Constantly on here it was questioning AV decisions at end of games or in big moments when he kept going to the vets in place of TK farabee so of course with more opportunity comes more points. It’s simple observation

No where did I say add guys at the expense of the young guys, by now you know my posts, you should be able to use that for more context. I discuss making good hockey trades. Flyers have all of their picks, they have roster players, then they have kids throughout AHL, Juniors and college. There are ways to make deals to the current roster to fix the deficiencies. Teams win the cup not individuals. Coming into this season most thought Pitt would fall back, they didn't, mostly due to how they constructed their team around Crosby. Add in most said they had no assets, they had very little in the kid department but they did it. The example is they GET CHEMISTRY. I was going to end with a smart ass response to you, like you did for me, but I see no need to be negative, hope you have a good day.
- wcorvette

You used a bunch of examples from Pitt, none of those guys are game changers. This team does not need a zucker or Jeff Carter, this team needs a future. Those are all just regular guys. Wouldn’t mind a physical guy like Tanev but this teams issues are much deeper.

Some people treat the C as some mythical magical thing. Like they are the owner, coach, father, General manager all wrapped up in to one.
- MBFlyerfan

Yes! At the end of the day he’s just another guy on the team, does his work ethic or voice mean more than most? Yes. They really have made it out to be the be all and end all of the team.

I don't expect that, but I don't blame CF either.

If we're getting pushed around, some of our bigger, tougher guys should be the ones who stand up for their teammates. I didn't see much of that (unless Morin was in the lineup).
We got bullied this year, and that's not the GM or the coach's fault. That's a lack of player support for each other, and that's cultivated in the locker room and out on the ice.
- Nh_kong

I agree to a degree, you can have team toughness but they have no players that fit the bill, except Morin. Do I think all the young kids should be finishing their checks? yes I do. They're young and strong, hit for god sakes.

It says that he’s still given more opportunity than anyone else. How do you watch games & not know that. Constantly on here it was questioning AV decisions at end of games or in big moments when he kept going to the vets in place of TK farabee so of course with more opportunity comes more points. It’s simple observation
- Fopa21

This guy? The guy who claimed last week he was just short of becoming a pro hockey player but didn’t make it but has player, coaching abs general management insight because of his hockey experience? This guy?

How do you not see Giroux is hands down, easily our hardest worker most nights? You actually believe our very best player should be captain?

Yes! At the end of the day he’s just another guy on the team, does his work ethic or voice mean more than most? Yes. They really have made it out to be the be all and end all of the team.
- ClaudeFather

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about then. He’s not just anyother guy. He is the captain the leader the dad. That’s what happens when you’re a leader. You really think him & connor bunnaman are just guys on the team?lol. No. They’re aren’t close. McDavid & Alex Chiasson. Haha geez man

This guy? The guy who claimed last week he was just short of becoming a pro hockey player but didn’t make it but has player, coaching abs general management insight because of his hockey experience? This guy?

How do you not see Giroux is hands down, easily our hardest worker most nights? You actually believe our very best player should be captain?
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t see it because I’m not drunk like you. Anyone with a brain knows he doesn’t work hard

This guy? The guy who claimed last week he was just short of becoming a pro hockey player but didn’t make it but has player, coaching abs general management insight because of his hockey experience? This guy?

How do you not see Giroux is hands down, easily our hardest worker most nights? You actually believe our very best player should be captain?
- SuperSchennBros

Quite a few games you don’t even notice him unless you look at the faceoff dot or the left hashmark in the O zone. Need to be more visable than that

You used a bunch of examples from Pitt, none of those guys are game changers. This team does not need a zucker or Jeff Carter, this team needs a future. Those are all just regular guys. Wouldn’t mind a physical guy like Tanev but this teams issues are much deeper.
- ClaudeFather

yes, none of those guys on their own make a difference for Pitt but collectively it made them a better team and that is the point. You forgot Kapanen and then they added McCann. Now add them all up and you have a more complete team, each bringing something a bit different. They added to the Rust and Guentzel mix. Meanwhile we have the Flyers who seem to have players that are all to similar. Pitt gets the chemistry, apparently CF failed chemistry for this past regular season.


All the Flyer players that way underachieved this season will have something to prove, if just half of them do and the Flyers could add a legit partner for Provy, some legit speed and snarl you would have a really good team. Then of course you need Hart to be legit.

They have the assets to do this, that said it is a lot to ask in this market.

yes, none of those guys on their own make a difference for Pitt but collectively it made them a better team and that is the point. You forgot Kapanen and then they added McCann. Now add them all up and you have a more complete team, each bringing something a bit different. They added to the Rust and Guentzel mix. Meanwhile we have the Flyers who seem to have players that are all to similar. Pitt gets the chemistry, apparently CF failed chemistry for this past regular season.


All the Flyer players that way underachieved this season will have something to prove, if just half of them do and the Flyers could add a legit partner for Provy, some legit speed and snarl you would have a really good team. Then of course you need Hart to be legit.

They have the assets to do this, that said it is a lot to ask in this market.
- wcorvette

Dude they made the playoffs 15 years in a row, it isn’t the guys you just mentioned

Dude they made the playoffs 15 years in a row, it isn’t the guys you just mentioned
- ClaudeFather

I give you are right, they would have made the playoffs with out the players below, those players had nothing to do with chemistry, they represent a rebuild on the fly done well.

Kapanen 1 year
Zucker 2 years
McCann 1 year
Tanev 2 years
Carter down the stretch 1 year


on D

Matheson 1 year
Ceci 1 year
Marino 2 year

I don’t see it because I’m not drunk like you. Anyone with a brain knows he doesn’t work hard
- Fopa21

GTFU with your nonsense. Coming in here talking like you did anything with your life. The only thing you played is with with yourself that much is blatantly obvious. Your opinions are beer league level crap which is pretty much the level you achieved when you "played the game".

Go back to playing hockey on your playststaton 2 with your created team where you lead them as captain with your overblown 99 level everything avatar. Leave the hockey talk to the adults you vapid clown.

I give you are right, they would have made the playoffs with out the players below, those players had nothing to do with chemistry, they represent a rebuild on the fly done well.

Kapanen 1 year
Zucker 2 years
McCann 1 year
Tanev 2 years
Carter down the stretch 1 year


on D

Matheson 1 year
Ceci 1 year
Marino 2 year
- wcorvette

We are talking about a team that has made the playoffs for 15 years. Throughout those 15 years they certainly have made some moves for complimentary guys. Some fit some have not, this year if they get bounced in the first round do you still feel so great about all of those adds? They have one of the best players to put on skates on their team, we do not.

GTFU with your nonsense. Coming in here talking like you did anything with your life. The only thing you played is with with yourself that much is blatantly obvious. Your opinions are beer league level crap which is pretty much the level you achieved when you "played the game".

Go back to playing hockey on your playststaton 2 with your created team where you lead them as captain with your overblown 99 level everything avatar. Leave the hockey talk to the adults you vapid clown.
- MBFlyerfan

From your delusional comments it’s clear here you’re the only one who doesn’t know anything about hockey. Connor bunnaman, nak & G are all the same hhahahhha get a clue loser

GTFU with your nonsense. Coming in here talking like you did anything with your life. The only thing you played is with with yourself that much is blatantly obvious. Your opinions are beer league level crap which is pretty much the level you achieved when you "played the game".

Go back to playing hockey on your playststaton 2 with your created team where you lead them as captain with your overblown 99 level everything avatar. Leave the hockey talk to the adults you vapid clown.
- MBFlyerfan

Please stop answering Fopa

Somebody on here was head over heels for Sam Bennett, you see this moron last night ? Costs his team the game with a horrible penalty under 10 minutes left with a one goal lead and now he has a hearing for the hit. We really need that guy !

We are talking about a team that has made the playoffs for 15 years. Throughout those 15 years they certainly have made some moves for complimentary guys. Some fit some have not, this year if they get bounced in the first round do you still feel so great about all of those adds? They have one of the best players to put on skates on their team, we do not.
- ClaudeFather

Crosby being Crosby is obvious, the fact that they added to him and did it the right way is a testament to the team. I hope the Isles bounce them but that doesn't change the fact they built a team around Crosby that meets today NHL, they have speed, skill and grit. Coming into this season who was supposed to have more depth the Pens or Flyers? Who was supposed to take a step back? Who a step forward? Why? now why not? its easy to see, the Pens put together a better blend of players. They added on the fly in the same market the Flyers did. The Flyers don't have a Crosby but coming into this season "the Depth" was going to carry them and make them better than a Pitt, even with Crosby. The Flyers following the Blues model.

It can be done and has been done. The Flyers need a shake up but if they get the right mix, the youngens bounce back and other grow, with a little luck the Flyers can be much better next season.

Please stop answering Fopa
- ClaudeFather

well, at least we agree on this

well, at least we agree on this
- wcorvette

Haha yes