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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 18 @ 11:15 AM ET
shocking, they didn't switch the plan up every 1.5 seasons?
- NewYorkNuck


As you already know, planning is a day-to-day thing. Every multimillion dollar company roles that way.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
lol I didn't even realize....i might actually watch part of it before i get my vaccine
- canucksfan1944



Good for you, nice to see most of us here are registering!
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
Yes, but Lordy has complained loudly that Bo doesn’t do that enough or at times when it’s needed. I agree somewhat, but I have no complaints about Bo’s physicality. Saying that, I sure would like to see the team have a bit more of that tenacity that the 2010 team had though.
- bloatedmosquito


I just wish he hit more... but it seems like it's a team thing. Watching the playoffs (which is a bit skewed, to be fair), seems like other teams forechecks are for the puck and the body. The Canucks just swing at pucks and do flybys

Other than that, Bo's a beast.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Yes, but Lordy has complained loudly that Bo doesn’t do that enough or at times when it’s needed. I agree somewhat, but I have no complaints about Bo’s physicality. Saying that, I sure would like to see the team have a bit more of that tenacity that the 2010 team had though.
- bloatedmosquito

I do think that Bo shows 90% of what we need as a C and leadership. I just wish that when players take liberties with Peterson or Hughes, Boeser Hogs whatever he would send a message is all. It's amazing how much ice opens up for your stars when there is backing from the Captain or whoever will step up. This a very soft club right now and it gets amplified to me when your Captain skates away as Petey is being crosschecked from behind or Hughes is getting Kneed. When I watched Iggy do it in CGY it's like a cancer that spreads through the room and the respect and lift the teams gets is what's needed.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
I just wish he hit more... but it seems like it's a team thing. Watching the playoffs (which is a bit skewed, to be fair), seems like other teams forechecks are for the puck and the body. The Canucks just swing at pucks and do flybys

Other than that, Bo's a beast.

- NewYorkNuck


Yup, I’m a Bo fan so rarely blame him for anything. The rest of the team...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
I do think that Bo shows 90% of what we need as a C and leadership. I just wish that when players take liberties with Peterson or Hughes, Boeser Hogs whatever he would send a message is all. It's amazing how much ice opens up for your stars when there is backing from the Captain or whoever will step up. This a very soft club right now and it gets amplified to me when your Captain skates away as Petey is being crosschecked from behind or Hughes is getting Kneed. When I watched Iggy do it in CGY it's like a cancer that spreads through the room and the respect and lift the teams gets is what's needed.
- LordHumungous


100%

Sportsnet had a take on that:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-landeskog-leads-example/

“Landeskog set the tone for his team early when he dropped the gloves with Brayden Schenn as a response to a hit Schenn laid on Mikko Rantanen. The winger later helped set up Nathan MacKinnon’s first of the post-season and midway through the second period he tipped in a MacKinnon shot to extend his team’s third-period lead.

That’s a Gordie Howe hat trick if you’re keeping score at home.”
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
I just wish he hit more... but it seems like it's a team thing. Watching the playoffs (which is a bit skewed, to be fair), seems like other teams forechecks are for the puck and the body. The Canucks just swing at pucks and do flybys

Other than that, Bo's a beast.

- NewYorkNuck


And until they fix that they'll always be on the outside looking in.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
It's all relative, better coach, structure, actual systems to play to.

I think Hughes could be a fantastic defenceman with the right coaching and structure.

And I'm not seeing how anyone can call Colorado soft, easily handled the blues last night.

- Makita


Systems has such a massive part in how Hughes plays, and how it is also going to restrict Rathbone. Both Hughes and Rathbone were elite zone entry and zone breakout specialists in the NCAA. The canucks constantly play dump and chase, in both zones. Colorado is one of the top teams in the league at controlled zone exits and entries. The game has changed, and Colorado is the poster team for how teams need to play. Canucks need a new-age coach who can employ new age systems.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Systems has such a massive part in how Hughes plays, and how it is also going to restrict Rathbone. Both Hughes and Rathbone were elite zone entry and zone breakout specialists in the NCAA. The canucks constantly play dump and chase, in both zones. Colorado is one of the top teams in the league at controlled zone exits and entries. The game has changed, and Colorado is the poster team for how teams need to play. Canucks need a new-age coach who can employ new age systems.
- Codes1087



Isn't that what Green is supposed to be?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 18 @ 11:29 AM ET
Where was your envy when everyone was making fun of Sakic and star players were asking for trades?
- NuckUp

Who's everyone?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
Speaking of Colorado,

Wasn’t Weisbrod the mastermind behind the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet in Calgary?

🤣
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 18 @ 11:39 AM ET
Speaking of Colorado,

Wasn’t Weisbrod the mastermind behind the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet in Calgary?

🤣

- 1970vintage

The one where O'Reilly would've had to clear waivers?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 18 @ 11:41 AM ET
I do think that Bo shows 90% of what we need as a C and leadership. I just wish that when players take liberties with Peterson or Hughes, Boeser Hogs whatever he would send a message is all. It's amazing how much ice opens up for your stars when there is backing from the Captain or whoever will step up. This a very soft club right now and it gets amplified to me when your Captain skates away as Petey is being crosschecked from behind or Hughes is getting Kneed. When I watched Iggy do it in CGY it's like a cancer that spreads through the room and the respect and lift the teams gets is what's needed.
- LordHumungous

i totally agree with you that this is needed on the team. this team "culture" is what i think is missing on the team and i have seen no indications that it is coming.

i was thinking about this the other day:
what is this team's identity? or if it has no identity, what type of identity is it developing?

2007-2014 "sedin team" which meant that they would try to beat you with skill. not too physical but wanted to rely on the pp if you wanted to dirty it up.

2000-2005 "west coast express" which was a fast team. had a good blend of speed, size and skill.

1991-1996 "linden/bure" skilled, big and could skate. played a "big" game. size plus skill with a good amount of edge.

so i ask, what type of identity does this team have or is it developing? and if something is lacking, is JB going to find out what that is and how to get it?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 18 @ 11:41 AM ET
Isn't that what Green is supposed to be?
- VanHockeyGuy


I've never heard that. He coaches how he used to play.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
The one where O'Reilly would've had to clear waivers?
- Marwood


The sad part is there's a good chance he sticks around longer than JB.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
i totally agree with you that this is needed on the team. this team "culture" is what i think is missing on the team and i have seen no indications that it is coming.

i was thinking about this the other day:
what is this team's identity? or if it has no identity, what type of identity is it developing?

2007-2014 "sedin team" which meant that they would try to beat you with skill. not too physical but wanted to rely on the pp if you wanted to dirty it up.

2000-2005 "west coast express" which was a fast team. had a good blend of speed, size and skill.

1991-1996 "linden/bure" skilled, big and could skate. played a "big" game. size plus skill with a good amount of edge.

so i ask, what type of identity does this team have or is it developing? and if something is lacking, is JB going to find out what that is and how to get it?

- RealityChecker

The Canucks team identity is 'pillow-biter'.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
Speaking of Colorado,

Wasn’t Weisbrod the mastermind behind the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet in Calgary?

🤣

- 1970vintage

it takes great people skills to be loved across multiple sports:

"Honestly, as long as John Weisbrod was the GM, there was no way," said Tracy McGrady. "There was no way I would have stepped another foot in a Magic uniform."

Smith pressed McGrady for a reason.

"Why? Just his whole demeanor, the way he goes about doing business. I don't know if I can say this, but I'm going to say it. He's an asshole."
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
The Canucks team identity is 'pillow-biter'.
- Marwood



They're certainly a soft team that could easily be dismantled by a US playoff team.

A few timely hit's and they'll fold like a two dollar lawn chair.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
They're certainly a soft team that could easily be dismantled by a US playoff team.

A few timely hit's and they'll fold like a two dollar lawn chair.

- VanHockeyGuy

they fold when their feelings get hurt.

remember the uproar when some reporter asked petey his weight at training camp? jfc
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
They're certainly a soft team that could easily be dismantled by a US playoff team.

A few timely hit's and they'll fold like a two dollar lawn chair.

- VanHockeyGuy

Geoff Courtnall will fix everything.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
The Canucks team identity is 'pillow-biter'.
- Marwood

For a guy that lays around a fair bit, you sure like to cry about toughness. Carolina and Avs final, two super tough teams
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
Geoff Courtnall will fix everything.
- Marwood




Trevor Linden 2.0
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Looking forward to the game today, only because it is raining pretty good, so now I can see some of the last games of Edler, Vesey, Boyd and Schmidt, in a Canucks uniform.

Now this is really something to celebrate.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 18 @ 12:43 PM ET
Looking forward to the game today, only because it is raining pretty good, so now I can see some of the last games of Edler, Vesey, Boyd and Schmidt, in a Canucks uniform.

Now this is really something to celebrate.

- Reubenkincade



Sunny here, going for a bike ride. I'll watch the 2 minutes of highlights on the news.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
Sunny here, going for a bike ride. I'll watch the 2 minutes of highlights on the news.
- VanHockeyGuy


Enjoy the ride.
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