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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 17 @ 5:10 PM ET
Meaningful hockey.
- VanHockeyGuy


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CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 17 @ 5:14 PM ET
As Carol said, players are playing for their jobs and reputations.
Not mojo.

- dbot


You mean the Canucks didn’t pick up right where they left off after all the good mojo from last year’s playoffs?
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 17 @ 5:15 PM ET


Elliotte on Calgary radio (960) talked about how in Calgary even when things aren't going well it looks like Treliving still has 2 hands on the wheel but he doesn't get the same sense with Vancouver over the past few weeks.

"I just don't think they look like they're in control."
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 17 @ 5:15 PM ET


Elliotte: Canucks should be asking questions about themselves of how they went from where they were 10 years ago to where they are now.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 17 @ 5:15 PM ET
What the Bolts did is completely allowed under the current agreement. Luongo didn’t go on LTIR because he wanted to work for the Panthers. I guess he could have gone and worked for the league for a few years, but that likely would have meant moving to NY.
- 1970vintage

I don't know if there is ever going to be a system that doesn't have some sort of circumvention.

League should look at individual cases almost as a way to get portions of the cap off teams books. There are injuries, or illnesses.

Maybe losing a draft pick for exceeding the cap relief portion by certain amounts, so teams can choose what they want to forfeit.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 17 @ 5:15 PM ET
Do you have a link to the section of the agreement where it states this?
- Reubenkincade


Link in bio

You are too old to know what I’m talking about, but the kids will get it.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
They are operating within the rules of the CBA. Maybe in the future, there will be a punishment for teams that decide to take the route that TB has. The league did send out an email saying they were not happy with teams taking such advantage of it.

Luongo didn't have to "retire" he could have went on LTIR.

- manvanfan


This is from another site and too lazy to rewrite it:

According to the LTIR rules, a player must be removed immediately after they’re ready to play. Kucherov has been skating for a month now [since March], including with the team at times in a non-contact jersey. Then, he appeared at practice today in a contact jersey [April]. That means he’s pretty much ready to play, yet he’s still on the LTIR. The team’s doctors are not clearing him to play despite him pretty clearly being ready. That’s where this becomes illegal cap circumvention, and that’s why people are mad.


Once a player is healthy to come off LTIR, they are supposed to. Tampa dragged its feet, illegally circumventing the cap through their doctors, and voila, he was ready for game 1.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 17 @ 5:17 PM ET


Elliotte on Calgary radio (960) talked about how in Calgary even when things aren't going well it looks like Treliving still has 2 hands on the wheel but he doesn't get the same sense with Vancouver over the past few weeks.

"I just don't think they look like they're in control."

- VanHockeyGuy

Did you listen to the 9 minutes he was on Rick and Donnie?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
Got to look for higher ceiling picks in the middle rounds. Spot 7 to 11 doesnt have that much difference in value.
- manvanfan

This is true. Need to mine some gems.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
Did you listen to the 9 minutes he was on Rick and Donnie?
- manvanfan


Yes I did. He's scared to come out and share his true thought's probably fearing repercussions from Francesco and Sportsnet. I think he knows more than he's saying.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 17 @ 5:22 PM ET
Ya, no. It's literal cap circumvention. Especially as the Canucks retroactively got punished for it, it's a slap in the face to see it blatantly happening elsewhere with the league not saying a thing.
- NewYorkNuck

I must agree 👍
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 17 @ 5:23 PM ET
This is true. Need to mine some gems.
- Nighthawk


Bullsh*t, I'd rather pick top 5.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 17 @ 5:24 PM ET
This is from another site and too lazy to rewrite it:

Once a player is healthy to come off LTIR, they are supposed to. Tampa dragged its feet, illegally circumventing the cap through their doctors, and voila, he was ready for game 1.

- NewYorkNuck

Facts?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 17 @ 5:24 PM ET


Elliotte on Calgary radio (960) talked about how in Calgary even when things aren't going well it looks like Treliving still has 2 hands on the wheel but he doesn't get the same sense with Vancouver over the past few weeks.

"I just don't think they look like they're in control."

- VanHockeyGuy


Elliotte can go (frank) himself, he has no clue about anything going on out West
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 17 @ 5:25 PM ET


Elliotte: Canucks should be asking questions about themselves of how they went from where they were 10 years ago to where they are now.

- VanHockeyGuy


It's called a rebuild, what a (frank)ing idiot

He realizes that teams have to rebuild after the previous core reaches it's peak and starts to decline, right?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 17 @ 5:25 PM ET


Elliotte: Canucks should be asking questions about themselves of how they went from where they were 10 years ago to where they are now.

- VanHockeyGuy

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 17 @ 5:26 PM ET
Bullsh*t, I'd rather pick top 5.
- VanHockeyGuy

Give is YOUR top 5 then. Lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yes I did. He's scared to come out and share his true thought's probably fearing repercussions from Francesco and Sportsnet. I think he knows more than he's saying.
- VanHockeyGuy

There are many moving parts. Nothing has or hasn't been confirmed yet. There will be talks at the end of the season.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
In a not so clear prospect rankings I think Brandt Ckarke could be a need filled on RHD once he gets seasoning.
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 17 @ 5:28 PM ET
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 17 @ 5:29 PM ET
Give is YOUR top 5 then. Lol
- Nighthawk


My pick is Matthew Beniers.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 17 @ 5:30 PM ET
My pick is Matthew Beniers.
- VanHockeyGuy

I’d take that but I’d he goes 1oa on my list. Powers seems to be #1 but not in my books.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 17 @ 5:32 PM ET
Elliotte can go (frank) himself, he has no clue about anything going on out West
- Nucker101


I'm surprised a know it all like you isn't working for Sportsnet?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 17 @ 5:32 PM ET
Facts?
- manvanfan


Yes. Lol.

Honestly, they just need to make a rule saying you need to play/be on the roster for X percentage of games in the regular season before Y date(s) to be part of the playoffs (not including players in the AHL, and conditioning stints don't count).
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 17 @ 5:33 PM ET
So how long until Courtnall fires Benning, or did FA just hire him to make it look like he's doing something. Geoff may know something about running a hockey club he owns a gold mine in South America, kind of like owning a hockey team, oh yeah he also built houses so he knows how to build things, good choice FA.
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