Can't be a bad system if there is no system


- NewYorkNuck

The best no system team in the league

The best no system team in the league
- A_SteamingLombardi

Systemic failure lol

Systemic failure lol
- Nighthawk

thanks

Just cause JB is back does not mean Green is safe at all imo, this should be a bubble team and our best player was injured but excuses aside i certainly expected more and would like a more defensive coach. Cant imagine JB is thrilled with this season.

Just cause JB is back does not mean Green is safe at all imo, this should be a bubble team and our best player was injured but excuses aside i certainly expected more and would like a more defensive coach. Cant imagine JB is thrilled with this season.
- neem55

Bubble team til a 3C is got & D more improved. Still not liking Baumer or NB as assistants. They have not improved the team in their roles. Need fresh change. TG need not approve whom either.

Just cause JB is back does not mean Green is safe at all imo, this should be a bubble team and our best player was injured but excuses aside i certainly expected more and would like a more defensive coach. Cant imagine JB is thrilled with this season.
- neem55

Now that the season is over, when does Green's contract end, I was kind of hoping today.

Wish him well, but maybe in Columbus, not here.

Lot's of offseason work to do.

Known:
top six: Petey, Bo, BB, Pearson, Hogs, JTM

Bottom 6: Motte- unless not protected and e-draft casualty

D: QH, Myers, NS

Demko

Probable Additions:

Rathbone and Podz

Additions in question:

OJ, Lind, Gadj, - e-draft & waiver eligible

Bubble:

Zacmac, Chatfield, Highmore ( JV - trade/buyout/Suspend/play???)

VET Moves:

Ferland and Beagle- LTIR retirement; Rousell- LTIR/surgery; LE - buyout/waived Holtby- exposed and likely e-draft casualty.

That leaves most of the bottom 6 needed to be decided from available above and/or UFA/Trades. Same for 3 starting D spots and 2 extra back ups.

Now that the season is over, when does Green's contract end, I was kind of hoping today.

Wish him well, but maybe in Columbus, not here.
- Makita

Some one was suggesting Anaheim might be looking. I too, hope him the best in his future endeavours, not conflicting with the Canucks glorious road to the chalice of Lord Stanley.

A beer with you & Vintage sounds good, we should invite Codes and convince him it's a privilege to pick up the tab.

Ok so no systems then, good to know and have you concede.
- Makita

Its funny you conclude that while NH is saying the wrong system is being used for the players available. Neither is accurate from what the players and hockey professionals are saying.

It's okay to prefer a different coach or GM but to insert fallacy as fact is functionally inadequate.

Its funny you conclude that while NH is saying the wrong system is being used for the players available. Neither is accurate from what the players and hockey professionals are saying.

It's okay to prefer a different coach or GM but to insert fallacy as fact is functionally inadequate.
- NuckUp

I'm not sure what qualifies you to determine what is fact or fallacy, but I certainly do not agree with your assertion that the team has structure or any semblance of a functioning system.

This coaching group has been together for years, and they have played the same dump and chase and defensive group collapsing style. You can throw out all the lame excuses to validate your opinion, but it is just an opinion, not a fact. Just like my perception, it is an opinion.

Its funny you conclude that while NH is saying the wrong system is being used for the players available. Neither is accurate from what the players and hockey professionals are saying.

It's okay to prefer a different coach or GM but to insert fallacy as fact is functionally inadequate.
- NuckUp

It’s well known Mak doesn’t like Green.
I don’t like his associate coaches.
Give Green a pass til new coaches prove me wrong.

Overall we’ve seen the same type of results & style of play for too long something has to give. It’s broke or in the least starting to stagnate & the need for change is obvious.

Just cause JB is back does not mean Green is safe at all imo, this should be a bubble team and our best player was injured but excuses aside i certainly expected more and would like a more defensive coach. Cant imagine JB is thrilled with this season.
- neem55

NH says its too defensive and you're seeing not defensive enough. While the Green haters mock that they see no system.

The truth and consequences of failure is people want change when they don't get the results. I'd expect just as management is being revamped so will coaching. It won't satisfy the radical views but such is the balance of reality.

NH says its too defensive and you're seeing not defensive enough. While the Green haters mock that they see no system.

The truth and consequences of failure is people want change when they don't get the results. I'd expect just as management is being revamped so will coaching. It won't satisfy the radical views but such is the balance of reality.
- NuckUp

No I am not saying that.

I’m saying associate coaches are a problem & need replacing. Furthermore I also don’t like the overall system used. Never said defensive rather too passive & creates too many shots given up & exacerbates other issues.

I'm not sure what qualifies you to determine what is fact or fallacy, but I certainly do not agree with your assertion that the team has structure or any semblance of a functioning system.

This coaching group has been together for years, and they have played the same dump and chase and defensive group collapsing style. You can throw out all the lame excuses to validate your opinion, but it is just an opinion, not a fact. Just like my perception, it is an opinion.
- Makita

To claim a modern professional hockey team is not employing a system is not factual.

Your style notes are not the system but failures to execute it. Ask any hockey professional.

No I am not saying that.

I’m saying associate coaches are a problem & need replacing. Furthermore I also don’t like the overall system used. Never said defensive rather too passive & creates too many shots given up & exacerbates other issues.
- Nighthawk

You were talking about Isles and Caps in previous posts etc. but if you're taking a tangent into assistants that's fine. I'll sum up again. IMO I agree with you change is coming.

To claim a modern professional hockey team is not employing a system is not factual.

Your style notes are not the system but failures to execute it. Ask any hockey professional.
- NuckUp

This is getting comical, I have referenced Greens systems is to collapse, not pressure the opponents, allow the opponent to move the puck at will, with passive pressure and waving of the sticks...that the defensive system.

Powerplay...skate up ice, approach opponents blue line, drop puck to trailing defenceman, hit blue line dump puck in wingers chase puck...

Offense...dump puck in, if fortunate enough to retrieve the puck, pass to point man, point man holds puck until being pressured, has limited options, either dumps to corner or hits opponents with shot.

Ok your turn for more excuses on how they couldn't practice, or covid and rescheduling ruined any chance of functionality as a team.

BTW, I'm out, as comical as this has been, I'm done presenting facts,

This is getting comical, I have referenced Greens systems is to collapse, not pressure the opponents, allow the opponent to move the puck at will, with passive pressure and waving of the sticks...that the defensive system.

Powerplay...skate up ice, approach opponents blue line, drop puck to trailing defenceman, hit blue line dump puck in wingers chase puck...

Offense...dump puck in, if fortunate enough to retrieve the puck, pass to point man, point man holds puck until being pressured, has limited options, either dumps to corner or hits opponents with shot.

Ok your turn for more excuses on how they couldn't practice, or covid and rescheduling ruined any chance of functionality as a team.

BTW, I'm out, as comical as this has been, I'm done presenting facts,
- Makita

Short version...

Stifle talent & play from behind chasing the play. Play the vets not the kids if make mistakes.

I’m with Mak & want puck pressure on D. On O I want to see skill not dump ins. Dump ins are for grinder energy lines. We have 2 skill lines & currently 2 useless bottom 2 lines. So activate the D & let the plugs drop back in coverage. More flow & open it up.

Binnington getting exposed again luv it lol

1st for Pesce

Hughes Pesce
Schmidt Myers
Rathbone Hamonic
OJ Bowey

1st for Pesce

Hughes Pesce
Schmidt Myers
Rathbone Hamonic
OJ Bowey
- Nighthawk

Sign Hamilton and make up the difference by not signing another Chatfield, Benn, Etc .
Quality over Quantity

Sign Hamilton and make up the difference by not signing another Chatfield, Benn, Etc .
Quality over Quantity
- Shuswap Wap

How about this...

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2401762

Kadri and Headshots


Name a more iconic duo

Suspension #6 for that clown

Passing on the 3rd line as it’ tough & so much to do & it’s the most important task for JB to get done so onto the 4th it is.

Motte Graovac Lind/Gads/Lockwood

Has real potential imo
- Nighthawk

What?

Kadri and Headshots


Name a more iconic duo

Suspension #6 for that clown
- classic321

Dirty hit. If the media explores the fact the avs might be done. Aaron rome.