The key in that quote is, "successful in the bubble last year."

Did he not look at the standings THIS year? That might be why they're not running to sign anyone.
- Lotto 6-40-9

Coach coming to the end of a contract with a team that is probably underperforming, I would guess it would be smart to see what else will become available. I would say it be smart to not make a rash quick decision.

Is that on Travis or is that on management/ownership?

Players seem to keep referring to losing key players in the offseason, and pointing out today that the key to success would be adding key pieces and quality players moving forward.
- Codes1087

It's on both.

Good question. They're very smart guys, they're dedicated and I don't foresee them putting themselves in a bad position. I would have to think that before agreeing to anything, they'd be frank with FA about how much weight their advise carries, the plan in the organization, and what he expects/wants from them.

I'd assume they'd tell FA (as we all know JB is on the outs), and they'd start implementing some behind the scenes stuff that doesn't interfere with the GMing as of yet. More personnel, more resources into this, structural change that, buy outs are good.. whatever. Hopefully they also carry enough clout and pedigree for FA to listen to them if/when they tell him he has to back off being so hands on.
- NewYorkNuck

i agree with that. i've always respected the sedins greatly and like that they are back.

however, they're walking into a dysfunctional situation. the owner hires people to help run the hockey ops while the gm can't figure out the coaching situation? good times.

Is that on Travis or is that on management/ownership?

Players seem to keep referring to losing key players in the offseason, and pointing out today that the key to success would be adding key pieces and quality players moving forward.
- Codes1087

I think the majority is on ownership. But I've always been kind of luke warm towards TG.

This org most likely needs to change Management & coaches. But that's just me.

Coach coming to the end of a contract with a team that is probably underperforming, I would guess it would be smart to see what else will become available. I would say it be smart to not make a rash quick decision.
- manvanfan

There's definitely plenty of factors. We need a smart offseason.

Thanks Carol.

We've seen this move before with Linden.

I liked your old avi better.
- Load Management

Was told by a mod to perhaps reconsider its use.
Meh, she's cute.

I think the majority is on ownership. But I've always been kind of luke warm towards TG.

This org most likely needs to change Management & coaches. But that's just me.
- Lotto 6-40-9

I 100% agree. I'd like a overhaul from top to bottom.

I personally don't like the way this team plays, the systems they play in, the pairings, the deployment, etc. But as far as who I would rather change first, management/ownership or coaching, its not even close. FA/Benning need to go, the coaches to follow after. Just me anyway

No way we move Boeser and Ekblad is a pipe-dream lol

I heard Hamilton was a big bible guy and pushy in the room (Boston-CGY). Don't think he'd be a good country club fit here.
- LordHumungous

Hamilton seems rather reserved to be pushy. I wouldn’t mind someone with a few morals vs Virtanen without.

It's on both.
- manvanfan

I dont disagree. I don't like Travis a coach, but I don't think he's necessarily been given NHL talent to work with this year either.

There's definitely plenty of factors. We need a smart offseason.
- Lotto 6-40-9

I agree very much they need an off season to re-group and look at what went wrong and make corrections. That is probably what the sedins are coming in for.

i agree with that. i've always respected the sedins greatly and like that they are back.

however, they're walking into a dysfunctional situation. the owner hires people to help run the hockey ops while the gm can't figure out the coaching situation? good times.
- RealityChecker

Love the Sedins. They are very smart, so hopefully they become the former-player success stories like Drury, Yzerman, Sakic et al.

This level of dysfunction is a newer turn. Here's to hoping they're able to steer/bring in more and better people to steer the ship.

I dont disagree. I don't like Travis a coach, but I don't think he's necessarily been given NHL talent to work with this year either.
- Codes1087

I am like Makita and voiced my reasons to get a different coach.

Green not a bad coach, he is still learning as he said. He is learning with a lot of young players that are still learning.

I also don't think his coaching style suits his line up.

I could care less on if JB goes or TG goes. I don't think the two of them are on the same page. They might be on the same page but what they are reading, they are viewing it differently.

JB said they are 2 years away still. Maybe that is JB timeline for getting aligned with TG. With new draft picks and contracts expiring.

A slight change in drafting seemed to occur when draft board was changed in 19'

Pure speculation on my part. 😁

Lol!
Oilers suck



A little less than the Flames!
- K-man25

lol the 2-1 Jets goal was VERY lucky no fault of Smith he actually played quite well. It was a goofy bounce and tip that hit the camera under the bar. See what happens next game Oil should bounce back or they are in deep.

Love the Sedins. They are very smart, so hopefully they become the former-player success stories like Drury, Yzerman, Sakic et al.

This level of dysfunction is a newer turn. Here's to hoping they're able to steer/bring in more and better people to steer the ship.
- NewYorkNuck

Agree and Linden was also very smart as well. Didn't get enough credit IMO. He wanted the full tear down and rebuild and JB/FA back-doored him. Is what it is.

Love the Sedins. They are very smart, so hopefully they become the former-player success stories like Drury, Yzerman, Sakic et al.

This level of dysfunction is a newer turn. Here's to hoping they're able to steer/bring in more and better people to steer the ship.
- NewYorkNuck

Apparently Brian Burke was on radio in Toronto and said he was offered Canucks President job 2 years ago and turned them down.

Love the Sedins. They are very smart, so hopefully they become the former-player success stories like Drury, Yzerman, Sakic et al.

This level of dysfunction is a newer turn. Here's to hoping they're able to steer/bring in more and better people to steer the ship.
- NewYorkNuck

Their first role here is to be peacemakers and put out fires between ownership/management vs players/fans.

Green is a lock to be back, the players clearly like him and so do the Sedins.

Apparently Brian Burke was on radio in Toronto and said he was offered Canucks President job 2 years ago and turned them down.
- Nucker101

Time for the franchise to fold. 😉😉

Is that on Travis or is that on management/ownership?

Players seem to keep referring to losing key players in the offseason, and pointing out today that the key to success would be adding key pieces and quality players moving forward.
- Codes1087

Both, management did not do enough to improve the team, or keep it the same. Personally, I did not think we would miss Toffoli, boy was I wrong.

Green knew How tough the schedule was going to be, and how little prep work he had. Their training was a joke. Instead of practicing PK and PP during those games, he had them chase the puck carrier on a break away to score. Then we proceed to start the year something like 0-15 on the PP or something like that? Our PK started pretty bad as well if I remember correctly. Our first game we pressured the puck, didn't ive McDavid room and we won. Very next day we shy away from contact, put 0 pressure and got destroyed. That was our season, one game we apply pressure and win, the next we don't and lose. A lot of this seasons failure is on Green(pre-Covid), after Covid we were doomed.

Bo’s a good Canadian farm boy, don’t like how he came out and publicly threw the bottom 6 under the bus by saying we need more offense from them.

They PK, check hard and do the little things on and off the ice for the team. Offense from them is just gravy on top

Nowhere K-. I've tried liven up the Flames thread but it's like dancing in a funeral home there most days. Have a ballena of Pacifico for me.
- Load Management

Thanks
I’ve had a few Pacifico’s here currently rocking the Modelo Negro
And of course I’m a master of margaritas now.

lol the 2-1 Jets goal was VERY lucky no fault of Smith he actually played quite well. It was a goofy bounce and tip that hit the camera under the bar. See what happens next game Oil should bounce back or they are in deep.
- LordHumungous

Let's go Jets!!! Also I want to see MTL beat TOR

Moby Richard

CHAPTER 20. All Astir.

A day or two passed, and there was great activity aboard the Pequod. Not only were the old sails being mended, but new sails were coming on board, and bolts of canvas, and coils of rigging; in short, everything betokened that the ship’s preparations were hurrying to a close. Captain Peleg seldom or never went ashore, but sat in his wigwam keeping a sharp look-out upon the hands: Bildad did all the purchasing and providing at the stores; and the men employed in the hold and on the rigging were working till long after night-fall.

On the day following Queequeg’s signing the articles, word was given at all the inns where the ship’s company were stopping, that their chests must be on board before night, for there was no telling how soon the vessel might be sailing. So Queequeg and I got down our traps, resolving, however, to sleep ashore till the last. But it seems they always give very long notice in these cases, and the ship did not sail for several days. But no wonder; there was a good deal to be done, and there is no telling how many things to be thought of, before the Pequod was fully equipped.

Every one knows what a multitude of things—beds, sauce-pans, knives and forks, shovels and tongs, napkins, nut-crackers, and what not, are indispensable to the business of housekeeping. Just so with whaling, which necessitates a three-years’ housekeeping upon the wide ocean, far from all grocers, costermongers, doctors, bakers, and bankers. And though this also holds true of merchant vessels, yet not by any means to the same extent as with whalemen. For besides the great length of the whaling voyage, the numerous articles peculiar to the prosecution of the fishery, and the impossibility of replacing them at the remote harbors usually frequented, it must be remembered, that of all ships, whaling vessels are the most exposed to accidents of all kinds, and especially to the destruction and loss of the very things upon which the success of the voyage most depends. Hence, the spare boats, spare spars, and spare lines and harpoons, and spare everythings, almost, but a spare Captain and duplicate ship.

At the period of our arrival at the Island, the heaviest storage of the Pequod had been almost completed; comprising her beef, bread, water, fuel, and iron hoops and staves. But, as before hinted, for some time there was a continual fetching and carrying on board of divers odds and ends of things, both large and small.

Chief among those who did this fetching and carrying was Captain Bildad’s sister, a lean old lady of a most determined and indefatigable spirit, but withal very kindhearted, who seemed resolved that, if she could help it, nothing should be found wanting in the Pequod, after once fairly getting to sea. At one time she would come on board with a jar of pickles for the steward’s pantry; another time with a bunch of quills for the chief mate’s desk, where he kept his log; a third time with a roll of flannel for the small of some one’s rheumatic back. Never did any woman better deserve her name, which was Charity—Aunt Charity, as everybody called her. And like a sister of charity did this charitable Aunt Charity bustle about hither and thither, ready to turn her hand and heart to anything that promised to yield safety, comfort, and consolation to all on board a ship in which her beloved brother Bildad was concerned, and in which she herself owned a score or two of well-saved dollars.

But it was startling to see this excellent hearted Quakeress coming on board, as she did the last day, with a long oil-ladle in one hand, and a still longer whaling lance in the other. Nor was Bildad himself nor Captain Peleg at all backward. As for Bildad, he carried about with him a long list of the articles needed, and at every fresh arrival, down went his mark opposite that article upon the paper. Every once in a while Peleg came hobbling out of his whalebone den, roaring at the men down the hatchways, roaring up to the riggers at the mast-head, and then concluded by roaring back into his wigwam.

During these days of preparation, Queequeg and I often visited the craft, and as often I asked about Captain Ahab, and how he was, and when he was going to come on board his ship. To these questions they would answer, that he was getting better and better, and was expected aboard every day; meantime, the two captains, Peleg and Bildad, could attend to everything necessary to fit the vessel for the voyage. If I had been downright honest with myself, I would have seen very plainly in my heart that I did but half fancy being committed this way to so long a voyage, without once laying my eyes on the man who was to be the absolute dictator of it, so soon as the ship sailed out upon the open sea. But when a man suspects any wrong, it sometimes happens that if he be already involved in the matter, he insensibly strives to cover up his suspicions even from himself. And much this way it was with me. I said nothing, and tried to think nothing.

At last it was given out that some time next day the ship would certainly sail. So next morning, Queequeg and I took a very early start.

Bo’s a good Canadian farm boy, don’t like how he came out and publicly threw the bottom 6 under the bus by saying we need more offense from them.

They PK, check hard and do the little things on and off the ice for the team. Offense from them is just gravy on top
- Nucker101

That's the role of the 4th line in todays NHL. People talk about a bottom 6 like it still exists, it doesn't. Every successful team is a top 9 and a 4th line.

That's the role of the 4th line in todays NHL. People talk about a bottom 6 like it still exists, it doesn't. Every successful team is a top 9 and a 4th line.
- Retinalz

Well his exact words were “In order to win in this league not only your top guys have to score but you need depth in your lineup"

Canucks had a good amount of production from their back end so that just leaves the bottom 6 as who he could be talking about.

Should’ve said it to Benning during exit meetings like EP did about his wingers before they acquired Miller. Saying it publicly is a bad look

Hopefully Beagle and Sutter sit him down.