I don’t think it’s necessarily afraid to make a change, but ownership wanted to give the heads a shot to see this through.

I don’t really have a strong opinion either way and am fine to see JB and Green have another year.

I want a clear upgrade if they’re cleaning house tho.
Not a Torts.
Not a Willy.
Not a Gillis.
Not a Nonis.
- dbot

it was my response to the "you don't fire someone unless there's someone better" notion.

you know that nucker's trolling right?
- RealityChecker

Nucker right now is reminding me of Tony Clifton.

[quote=K-man25]

i'm sorry that you missed my point.

my point is that the decision to fire anyone should be an independent process. you evaluate the person's job performance and decide whether he should be fired or not.

evidently, FA thought that JB should not be fired but brought in some other voices.

fair enough.

i was responding to the notion that you don't fire someone unless you have someone better. that implies that the new hire has already been decided on before the firing. at the very least it means that the decision maker (in this case FA) already thinks the person should be fired.

glad i could clear that up for you.
- RealityChecker

fair enough

it was my response to the "you don't fire someone unless there's someone better" notion.
- RealityChecker

As opposed to the knee jerk reaction seen in Cgy?
The team is not good enough.
We have a young core that is developing.
It is what it is.

Nucker right now is reminding me of Tony Clifton.


- A_SteamingLombardi

that's giving him too much credit.

this is more like it:

that's giving him too much credit.

this is more like it:

- RealityChecker

I work in mental health.
I’m used to it.

i've never understood that.

it's like the reasoning is that you should already have someone hired before you fire someone.

i disagree. you evaluate someone's performance and decide whether it has been acceptable or not. if it hasn't, you devise a systematic approach to find someone who can implement the plan/structure you want.

you don't make change for the sake of change but you don't keep something just because you are afraid of change.

and some people ask, "well who would you hire?" that's kind of the point i'm making. you interview several people to find someone who is qualified. i'm not scared that there aren't qualified people out there. that justification for inaction is weaksauce because the firing process (why or why not someone is let go) should be separate from the hiring process.
- RealityChecker

I agree with this. Who's available is a factor but ultimately it's about performance evaluation first, no shortage of guys want to coach in the show.

I work in mental health.
I’m used to it.
- dbot

should have guessed. it's the play along in a calm soothing voice to pacify the patient method.

well played. well played.

Now that clown Friedman is stirring poop up again

Says a couple of Canuck players will want out and the Canucks will try to convince those players to say and ask them what can be done to fix things.



What a (frank)ing joke

Younger and faster is the NHL trend, Toffoli can’t skate, he’s fine during the regular season but will struggle in the new age playoffs. Hoglander and PodK can fly
- Nucker101

Now if I said that, Toffoli would go and score four goals in the first game. Guaranteed.

Now if I said that, Toffoli would go and score four goals in the first game. Guaranteed.
- bloatedmosquito

SAY IT!

Now if I said that, Toffoli would go and score four goals in the first game. Guaranteed.
- bloatedmosquito

he does seem to take things a bit personally

SAY IT!
- dbot

Now that clown Friedman is stirring poop up again

Says a couple of Canuck players will want out and the Canucks will try to convince those players to say and ask them what can be done to fix things.



What a (frank)ing joke
- Nucker101

My guess is Miller and possibly Schmidt.

Now that clown Friedman is stirring poop up again

Says a couple of Canuck players will want out and the Canucks will try to convince those players to say and ask them what can be done to fix things.



What a (frank)ing joke
- Nucker101

Green playing favorites.

My guess is Miller and possibly Schmidt.
- Retinalz

Schmidt for sure, unsure about the other. Could be Miller, maybe Juolevi wants a fresh start? Or maybe some random depth guy.

Clown Friedman: I haven't heard much interest in Canucks hiring a President of Hockey Ops.

Didn't rule out a President on the business side.




So if you want to believe this clown, it's Benning and the Sedins with no President of hockey ops.

Nucker right now is reminding me of Tony Clifton.


- A_SteamingLombardi

I knew Andy. Nucker is no Kaufman.

Schmidt for sure, unsure about the other. Could be Miller, maybe Juolevi wants a fresh start? Or maybe some random depth guy.
- Nucker101

in a couple of posts, you claim that "Now that clown Friedman is stirring poop up again," and "if you want to believe this clown."

but in this post you clearly believe him as you already name the players (1 that you're certain of.)

what gives?

in a couple of posts, you claim that "Now that clown Friedman is stirring poop up again," and "if you want to believe this clown."

but in this post you clearly believe him as you already name the players (1 that you're certain of.)

what gives?
- RealityChecker

playing along with this hypothetical just for fun, also Schmidt I want gone regardless for skipping exit meetings.

As opposed to the knee jerk reaction seen in Cgy?
The team is not good enough.
We have a young core that is developing.
It is what it is.
- dbot

Young core is good but not if there’s no one coming from junior or university just means you’ve been drafting at a good position that has allowed them to step right in. Do the Canucks have any prospects that didn’t play pro last year. Honest question.

Young core is good but not if there’s no one coming from junior or university just means you’ve been drafting at a good position that has allowed them to step right in. Do the Canucks have any prospects that didn’t play pro last year. Honest question.
- K-man25

So you'd feel better if Podkolzin was ripping up come US college hockey division?

playing along with this hypothetical just for fun, also Schmidt I want gone regardless for skipping exit meetings.
- Nucker101

oh yeah, you don't mind trading schmidt for a cap dump.

So you'd feel better if Podkolzin was ripping up come US college hockey division?
- Nucker101

Is he even smart enough for college?
I want to know all the other future Canucks that are playing junior. It’s an honest question.