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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
I wouldn’t sign any UFA’s for longer than 1 year and I wouldn’t give out any NTC/NMC to anyone.

I’d resign Grayovac and Bailey and run with the guys they have:

Motte, Beagle, Roussel, Highmore, Grayovac, Bailey, Lockwood, Michalis, Lind, Gadjovic, Jasek, whoever.

- 1970vintage

I’m writing off Beagle as retiring on LTIR. Moving on from Roussel to open up a wing spot. Idk if traded or bought out but gone.

I really like Graovac as a 4C if can stay healthy. Has a knack for scoring & luv his size.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 2:57 PM ET
I’m writing off Beagle as retiring on LTIR. Moving on from Roussel to open up a wing spot. Idk if traded or bought out but gone.

I really like Graovac as a 4C if can stay healthy. Has a knack for scoring & luv his size.

- Nighthawk


Virtanen likely gone as well. Benning has learned that overpaying bottom 6’ers was a mistake and we now have cheap bottom 6 replacement options like Graovac, Highmore, Lind, Lockwood, ZMac to go along with Motte. Plus ELC Podkolzin next year. The cap space freed up in the summer of 2022 will be exciting. Next year is a stopgap/development year

I would pay up for a legit 3C though, go cheap with the rest. Pearson will eventually get bumped down to 3LW to form a strong 3 line squad due to Pod/Hog
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
I’m writing off Beagle as retiring on LTIR. Moving on from Roussel to open up a wing spot. Idk if traded or bought out but gone.

I really like Graovac as a 4C if can stay healthy. Has a knack for scoring & luv his size.

- Nighthawk

Roussell may be done in by that knee. Looked like the same one he had surgery on in his first season got injured again. Possible LTIRetire him.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
I’m sure a victory today will have the guys all amped for off season training knowing that they are that close to challenging for the cup
- 1970vintage

This is such an exciting time for the franchise moving forward.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
This is such an exciting time for the franchise moving forward.
- Marwood


12 months from now will be exciting
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
This is such an exciting time for the franchise moving forward.
- Marwood

I don’t think we have ever had more moral victories per 60. Probably the most important fancy stat
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
Holtbys in

Edler and Pearson out

Green wouldnt say who draws in their places.

Must lose game

- Brooks_Light


What the (frank) are you talking about? We win today and we win the series and then on to the next round. Secretly, I’m hoping that we get the Oilers in the next round because IMO we match up better than we do Jets.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
Passing on the 3rd line as it’ tough & so much to do & it’s the most important task for JB to get done so onto the 4th it is.

Motte Graovac Lind/Gads/Lockwood

Has real potential imo
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
With the farm team in Abbotsford they should spend a lot of time bringing up/sending down guys - maximizing cap space so they can either upgrade or take on a bad contract - depending on how they do.
- 1970vintage

I wonder about who pays which contract for the farm team. Robert Esche owned Utica. Van has never had many prospects in Utica.

Maybe its my own theory but Canucks seem to leave their prospects in college or Europe for as long as possible.

Other teams I feel sign more players and bring them over sooner than Van does.

If FA is cheap as mentioned, him not wanting to take as many chances if they don't end up working out as players and "wasting money".

I don't know if FA is going to own Abbottsford or if someone else.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
I’m writing off Beagle as retiring on LTIR. Moving on from Roussel to open up a wing spot. Idk if traded or bought out but gone.

I really like Graovac as a 4C if can stay healthy. Has a knack for scoring & luv his size.

- Nighthawk


You can’t just “write them off”, they both have another year on their contracts. For all we know Ferland might try and make a comeback.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
What the (frank) are you talking about? We win today and we win the series and then on to the next round. Secretly, I’m hoping that we get the Oilers in the next round because IMO we match up better than we do Jets.
- bloatedmosquito


Sarcasm aside, it’s one draft spot in a crapshoot draft plus Benning should thrive in a draft like this where the teams run by nerds don’t have enough data and the eye test reigns supreme more than ever. A few draft spots in a draft like this is no biggie.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
I don’t think we have ever had more moral victories per 60. Probably the most important fancy stat
- CanuckDon

Flames are in a heap of disarray making our problems pale significantly. What a shlt show after their long term signings lol.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
12 months from now will be exciting
- Nucker101


Draft lottery?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:06 PM ET
Passing on the 3rd line as it’ tough & so much to do & it’s the most important task for JB to get done so onto the 4th it is.

Motte Graovac Lind/Gads/Lockwood

Has real potential imo

- Nighthawk


I’m looking ahead to the summer of 2022


Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Podkolzin - Horvat - Hoglander
Pearson - Good 3C - Lind or UFA
Lockwood/Gadjovich - Graovac - Motte

Hughes - UFA/trade (good defensive stay at home dman)
Schmidt - Myers
Rathbone - Hamonic/UFA/maybe Woo?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
Virtanen likely gone as well. Benning has learned that overpaying bottom 6’ers was a mistake and we now have cheap bottom 6 replacement options like Graovac, Highmore, Lind, Lockwood, ZMac to go along with Motte. Plus ELC Podkolzin next year. The cap space freed up in the summer of 2022 will be exciting. Next year is a stopgap/development year

I would pay up for a legit 3C though, go cheap with the rest. Pearson will eventually get bumped down to 3LW to form a strong 3 line squad due to Pod/Hog

- Nucker101

This year should have been development year. I wouldn't pay for a 3lc this year. Cheap guy, save the space to see where the team goes next season. Things go right, get one at tdl if needed, if they don't go right. Not locked in.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
I wonder about who pays which contract for the farm team. Robert Esche owned Utica. Van has never had many prospects in Utica.

Maybe its my own theory but Canucks seem to leave their prospects in college or Europe for as long as possible.

Other teams I feel sign more players and bring them over sooner than Van does.

If FA is cheap as mentioned, him not wanting to take as many chances if they don't end up working out as players and "wasting money".

I don't know if FA is going to own Abbottsford or if someone else.

- manvanfan


For any of the guys on ELC or two way deals, they can send them down on off days all season and save both cap and real $.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
Draft lottery?
- 1970vintage


Who knows. But a decent chunk of money freed up plus a core entering it’s best years as a whole.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
This year should have been development year. I wouldn't pay for a 3lc this year. Cheap guy, save the space to see where the team goes next season. Things go right, get one at tdl if needed, if they don't go right. Not locked in.
- manvanfan


3C doesn’t have to be urgent, stay patient and wait for the right opportunity cost like Miller/Schmidt. We need one in place by 22/23, plenty of time.

22/23 is when this team should be ready to be a threat for a deep playoff run
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 19 @ 3:12 PM ET
I’m looking ahead to the summer of 2022


Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Podkolzin - Horvat - Hoglander
Pearson - Good 3C - Lind or UFA
Lockwood/Gadjovich - Graovac - Motte

Hughes - UFA/trade
Schmidt - Myers
Rathbone - Hamonic/UFA/maybe Woo?

- Nucker101


Stupid fat fingers - just flagged this...

Is this your dream 2022/2023 roster?

This season ‘22/23 will actually be their window to win. Boeser will be an RFA that summer and Horvat and Miller are UFA’s the summer after. They probably won’t be able to keep both. Jim needs to do everything in his power to shed bad contracts for that summer so they can afford to go all in.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 3:13 PM ET
I’m looking ahead to the summer of 2022


Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Podkolzin - Horvat - Hoglander
Pearson - Good 3C - Lind or UFA
Lockwood/Gadjovich - Graovac - Motte

Hughes - UFA/trade (good defensive stay at home dman)
Schmidt - Myers
Rathbone - Hamonic/UFA/maybe Woo?

- Nucker101


That’s my ideal line up other than a UFA winger. This organization really needs a prospect to make noise on the 3rd line.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:14 PM ET
Stupid fat fingers - just flagged this...

Is this your dream 2022/2023 roster?

This season ‘22/23 will actually be their window to win. Boeser will be an RFA that summer and Horvat and Miller are UFA’s the summer after. They probably won’t be able to keep both. Jim needs to do everything in his power to shed bad contracts for that summer so they can afford to go all in.

- 1970vintage


Cap should rise by then, if they have a strong season I can see players wanting to stay here at a slight discount. Bo especially. Miller can be replaced by Podkolzin hopefully and Podkolzin’s line 2 spot will need to be filled via UFA/trade or another good prospect like Hog
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
That’s my ideal line up other than a UFA winger. This organization really needs a prospect to make noise on the 3rd line.
- Nighthawk


We have candidates, chances are one of them pans out. Question is, targets via trade or UFA for Hughes RHD partner and 3C spot. Have about 12-14 months to figure those 2 spots out.

Maybe use Dipietro + pick/prospect to fill one of those holes and sign a UFA for the other.

Expansion draft presents opportunities as well, some teams may have a 3C or RHD available.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
This year should have been development year. I wouldn't pay for a 3lc this year. Cheap guy, save the space to see where the team goes next season. Things go right, get one at tdl if needed, if they don't go right. Not locked in.
- manvanfan

I & Carol both wanted that this past season. I was prepared for any results if it were to have happened. I truly wanted to see it being the taxi squad made it possible.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 3:21 PM ET
We have candidates, chances are one of them pans out. Question is, targets via trade or UFA for Hughes RHD partner and 3C spot. Have about 12-14 months to figure those 2 spots out.

Maybe use Dipietro + pick/prospect to fill one of those holes and sign a UFA for the other.

- Nucker101

The 2 biggest needs indeed.

I prefer to shed cap & entice the Kracken.
MDP/JV/LE possibly. Hoping that flies.

A D for Hughes tops my list then can move onto a 3C in various ways. I don’t think we’ve the assets yet to trade so I lean towards a UFA 3C. We need picks to keep stockpiling for the future.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 19 @ 3:24 PM ET
Thoughts...

Motte Danault Highmore
Lockwood Graovac Lind

Gads could platoon
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