My point is a good 3C allows winger prospects to further improve. They get mired in a state of no mans land if not.
- Nighthawk

see my last response to nucker.

anyway, i understand what you're saying and you're not wrong.

what i'm saying is that getting that impact 3C now will definitely help the bottom 6... but not enough to turn this team into a contender.

i'm saying, wait at least 1 season and let some bad salaries shed from the cap. the bottom 6 will still suck but next year or the year after, you'll have a lot more options as to how to craft the bottom 6.

by spending all the money/assets now to get the impactful 3C, you're locking yourself (to a certain extent) up for the next 3-5 years. it's in the latter half of those years that this core will be in their primes. however, in that time, the UFA that's signed this summer will most likely be in decline. that's just how UFA contracts generally go. so when the youngsters are at their peak, the 3C is on the downswing.

i'm saying, swallow the medicine of waiting out the bad contracts.

fire green, hire burrows
- BINGO!

In a fricking heartbeat, make it happen BINGO, please for gods sake make it happen.

Your jokes are so creative! And I like how they're one and done and you rarely re-use them. For example, the "so much to celebrate" joke. Very cutting edge stuff. Hats off to you sir.
- Brooks_Light

I’m eternally awaiting his hockey input.
I’m afraid I’ll die 1st lol

I'm just so excited about the future of this team! I'm sorry if my glee is a little overwhelming.
- Marwood

Don't be sorry, I'm just mesmerized by your sharp wit and fascinated how you can consistently come up with fresh material.

see my last response to nucker.

anyway, i understand what you're saying and you're not wrong.

what i'm saying is that getting that impact 3C now will definitely help the bottom 6... but not enough to turn this team into a contender.

i'm saying, wait at least 1 season and let some bad salaries shed from the cap. the bottom 6 will still suck but next year or the year after, you'll have a lot more options as to how to craft the bottom 6.

by spending all the money/assets now to get the impactful 3C, you're locking yourself (to a certain extent) up for the next 3-5 years. it's in the latter half of those years that this core will be in their primes. however, in that time, the UFA that's signed this summer will most likely be in decline. that's just how UFA contracts generally go. so when the youngsters are at their peak, the 3C is on the downswing.

i'm saying, swallow the medicine of waiting out the bad contracts.
- RealityChecker

Again, no where did we say that the 3C spot has to be fixed asap, we're discussing options for that 22/23 seasons, Danault was brought up as just one possibility if his price tag makes sense long-term, if not then you wait for someone else via trade or free agency.

He isnt fast, doesn't have that much skill and as you said his linemates aren't better because of him. Its the mtl dream. Its like Jordie Benn coming to Van. Not nearly as good as anyone thought he was.
- manvanfan

The Habs rely on him higher up the line up we would not. He would be a better fit here imo

Again, no where did we say that the 3C spot has to be fixed asap, we're discussing options for that 22/23 seasons, Danault was brought up as just one possibility if his price tag makes sense long-term, if not then you wait for someone else via trade or free agency.
- Nucker101

Aren't you a Flyers fan?

How is that a personal attack? You're constantly misinterpreting the posts of the positive posters in here and putting words into their mouths with your hyperbole. It's just a fact.
- Nucker101

another post of personal attacks. and now you say these insults are facts.

you're behaving like a bully! i guess the PC principal avatar is ironic. i get it now.

You just said you want PPG+ and strong all-around play in all situations(PP, PK, 5V5) from your core, so basically you want a core full of top 25 players.

Safe to say that your expectations are unrealistic, even stars McDavid and MacKinnon don't kill penalties and aren't highly thought of defensively.
- Nucker101

Miller plays all situations. That’s a plus. Bo plays all situations that’s a plus. I don’t believe both guys will be here 2023 onward. Petey and Boeser will probably never be all situation players. Hopefully one of them gets to better than a ppg.

Benning is an idiot for not having 2-3 of those guys!!
- Nucker101

He should have drafted min 2 of them every year. Plus a #1 D in the 3rd round or later.

Fvck

We should have benched holtby after those Toronto games.

Leave a lasting impression in peoples minds

Seattle aint taking that guy now.

Again, no where did we say that the 3C spot has to be fixed asap, we're discussing options for that 22/23 seasons, Danault was brought up as just one possibility if his price tag makes sense long-term, if not then you wait for someone else via trade or free agency.
- Nucker101

so now you agree with me. cool. i'm glad you changed your mind.

The Habs rely on him higher up the line up we would not. He would be a better fit here imo
- Nighthawk

Comparing him to Jordie Benn is an insult lol, Benn couldn't play against top lines effectively at any point in his career. Danault's been doing it throughout his MTL career.

Now do his misses
- Codes1087

If you look close enough at other clubs the same way you do with Van. You would be quite surprised when you don't just look at the good stuff.

so now you agree with me. cool. i'm glad you changed your mind.
- RealityChecker

You threw the hissy fit, me and NH were discussing long term solutions from the start. You lost your poop for no reason, likely because you saw our usernames and just assumed we were talking about overpaying for a short term solution, we corrected you and now you're saying you convinced us to make yourself feel better

He inherited a team that finished with over 100 points, 1st in the division, with two hall of fame forwards.
- 1970vintage

He inherited a team in their twilight loaded with NMC’s & NTC’s & nearly zero on the farm.

His UFA signings were his biggest faults.

JV but not all on JB
OJ but still viable as an NHLer bottom 4
- Nighthawk

Now do his trades (not listed above in JT miller) and his free agent signings.

I’m eternally awaiting his hockey input.
I’m afraid I’ll die 1st lol
- Nighthawk

It's not his input that matters, it's his consistent uplifting spirit and enthusiasm! He's like an adult cheerleader...a human pom pom of sorts.

I say celebrate it!!

See, he's rubbing off on me.

another post of personal attacks. and now you say these insults are facts.

you're behaving like a bully! i guess the PC principal avatar is ironic. i get it now.
- RealityChecker

personal attacks

If you look close enough at other clubs the same way you do with Van. You would be quite surprised when you don't just look at the good stuff.
- manvanfan

This is where you're wrong, and everyone else who says the same thing. We focus and see what other clubs are doing, and then compare to see what our favorite team is doing, and that's where we can draw a line in the sand between what they do well, and what we do poorly.

Are any of them Canucks?
- 1970vintage

Funny part of you asking if any of them are on Van. Only 13 teams out of those 21 players are represented. Less than half the league.

So the Canucks shouldn't do anything with their cap space during the summer of 2022? Maybe just take on a bad contract or 2 for picks? sounds like a great way to piss off the core, why would Horvat stick around for that?
- Nucker101

if you're going to ask that about horvat, why not ask why any of these guys would want to stick around based on what's happened the last 3-5 years?

but to answer your question: show the players a real plan. they recognize when a GM is managing his cap day-to-day without a larger plan. i'm sure they discussed it when some of their friends left. so.... show them a plan and the light at the end of the tunnel.

see my last response to nucker.

anyway, i understand what you're saying and you're not wrong.

what i'm saying is that getting that impact 3C now will definitely help the bottom 6... but not enough to turn this team into a contender.

i'm saying, wait at least 1 season and let some bad salaries shed from the cap. the bottom 6 will still suck but next year or the year after, you'll have a lot more options as to how to craft the bottom 6.

by spending all the money/assets now to get the impactful 3C, you're locking yourself (to a certain extent) up for the next 3-5 years. it's in the latter half of those years that this core will be in their primes. however, in that time, the UFA that's signed this summer will most likely be in decline. that's just how UFA contracts generally go. so when the youngsters are at their peak, the 3C is on the downswing.

i'm saying, swallow the medicine of waiting out the bad contracts.
- RealityChecker

I hearya. What I am saying is go for Danault with a solid offer. If no luck then no panic & wait. Not saying do of die but a 3C will still be needed signed.

In a fricking heartbeat, make it happen BINGO, please for gods sake make it happen.
- Makita

Whoa howdy lurker 😂😂

personal attacks
- Nucker101

and your laughing continues. i guess, you're not so above personal attacks i guess.