Don't be sorry, I'm just mesmerized by your sharp wit and fascinated how you can consistently come up with fresh material.
- Brooks_Light

I'm happy to entertain you.

I hearya. What I am saying is go for Danault with a solid offer. If no luck then no panic & wait. Not saying do of die but a 3C will still be needed signed.
- Nighthawk

He inherited a team in their twilight loaded with NMC’s & NTC’s & nearly zero on the farm.

His UFA signings were his biggest faults.
- Nighthawk

They are pretty damn big

So the Canucks shouldn't do anything with their cap space during the summer of 2022? Maybe just take on a bad contract or 2 for picks? sounds like a great way to piss off the core, why would Horvat stick around for that?
- Nucker101

Canucks haven't taken on a bad contract except any of their own. Not really all that willing to buyout one either. I think FA purse strings have hindered that.

I hearya. What I am saying is go for Danault with a solid offer. If no luck then no panic & wait. Not saying do of die but a 3C will still be needed signed.
- Nighthawk

ya, i get it. i just think spending assets (either cap space or players/picks) isn't the right thing to do at this point. i've been saying it for 7 years.

sad thing is that this is when they should have had cap space/assets to make those signings/trades. by doing so too early, we got here. and here is having to wait 1 or 2 years to get rid of the mistakes.

Now do his trades (not listed above in JT miller) and his free agent signings.
- Codes1087

Hits n probably a few more misses. The trademark of most GM’s.

UFA’s a definite weak suit but given what he inherited his pro scouts were not good.

Now do his trades (not listed above in JT miller) and his free agent signings.
- Codes1087

The Miller trade belongs in the trash heap, along with the Pearson trade, the Toffoli trade and the Schmidt trade.

It's not his input that matters, it's his consistent uplifting spirit and enthusiasm! He's like an adult cheerleader...a human pom pom of sorts.

I say celebrate it!!

See, he's rubbing off on me.
- Brooks_Light

😂😂

Fvck

We should have benched holtby after those Toronto games.

Leave a lasting impression in peoples minds

Seattle aint taking that guy now.
- classic321

No consistency in the team. Kind of a young team but a staple of greens tenure.

and your laughing continues. i guess, you're not so above personal attacks i guess.
- RealityChecker

I don't consider those personal attacks, I'm insinuating that you're reading comprehension is poor, but it's not due to your intelligence, it's due trying to pigeon hole posters like myself. You're purposefully and knowingly choosing to misinterpret our posts and put words into our mouths.

We all just witnessed it with the Danault discussion. You tried to make it seem like Nighthawk and I are were advocating for overpaying Danault to fix the 3C spot right now, which was untrue

You threw the hissy fit, me and NH were discussing long term solutions from the start. You lost your poop for no reason, likely because you saw our usernames and just assumed we were talking about overpaying for a short term solution, we corrected you and now you're saying you convinced us to make yourself feel better
- Nucker101

seriously, enough with the personal attacks. why are you so unhinged today?

I don't consider those personal attacks, I'm insinuating that you're reading comprehension is poor, but it's not due to your intelligence, it's due trying to pigeon hole posters like myself. You're purposefully and knowingly choosing to misinterpret our posts and put words into our mouths.

We all just witnessed it with the Danault discussion. You tried to make it seem like Nighthawk and I are were advocating for overpaying Danault to fix the 3C spot right now, which was untrue
- Nucker101

nighthawk and i know exactly what each other are saying. and we've had a very civil discussion.

why are you trying to make this personal? we're trying to discuss hockey and yet you keep on with this personal stuff. what's up with that?

Funny part of you asking if any of them are on Van. Only 13 teams out of those 21 players are represented. Less than half the league.
- manvanfan

Are they all 1st overall selections?

Is it wrong to hope that your team has one of the top 20 players in the league?

Yeah baby!
Atta boy Schmidt!

ya, i get it. i just think spending assets (either cap space or players/picks) isn't the right thing to do at this point. i've been saying it for 7 years.

sad thing is that this is when they should have had cap space/assets to make those signings/trades. by doing so too early, we got here. and here is having to wait 1 or 2 years to get rid of the mistakes.
- RealityChecker

No players/picks should be used.
Cap space yes & space can & should be created without hamstringing us for the future. It can also be used in resigning RFA’s if JB shows he can sell them on it takes & is needed if they want to contend. Bridge deals & future small contract shaves should ensue.

Are they all 1st overall selections?

Is it wrong to hope that your team has one of the top 20 players in the league?
- 1970vintage

A lot of those guys in the top 20 weren't at that level when they were 22 or younger, it's entirely possible that someone like Pettersson can mature his game and reach that level.

He's acquired:
a top center in EP(you disagree, most of the hockey world agrees).
top line winger in Boeser
top line winger in Miller
2nd line winger in Hoglander
top PMD in Hughes
#1 workhorse goalie in Demko

Pod is TBD

Basically, he's acquired a core player under the age of 30 almost every year.
- Nucker101

FAs signed by Benning in that same time frame
Eriksson 6X6
Sam Gagner 3.15X3
Del Zotto 3X2
Beagle 3X4
Roussel 3X4
Ferland 3.5X4

No players/picks should be used.
Cap space yes & space can & should be created without hamstringing us for the future. It can also be used in resigning RFA’s if JB shows he can sell them on it takes & is needed if they want to contend. Bridge deals & future small contract shaves should ensue.
- Nighthawk

Most of the dead-weight will be gone next next summer, people can argue players like Myers but he contributes and isn't an anchor such as LE, Sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Spooner, Baertschi all on the sidelines plus the unfortunate Luongo penalty.

A lot of those guys in the top 20 weren't at that level when they were 22 or younger, it's entirely possible that someone like Pettersson can mature his game and reach that level.
- Nucker101

That’s the hope!

That’s the hope!
- 1970vintage

No players/picks should be used.
Cap space yes & space can & should be created without hamstringing us for the future. It can also be used in resigning RFA’s if JB shows he can sell them on it takes & is needed if they want to contend. Bridge deals & future small contract shaves should ensue.
- Nighthawk

definitely. i think we're almost on the same page. the only difference is timeline.

i just think they're way too tight to the cap right with so many moving parts. what i mean is that the most important issues should be devising how the cap will look in 3ish years. they need to map out how they'll resign their core to figure out how much money that leaves for UFAs/trades.

by bringing in new cap now, they'll give themselves little margin for error going forward. i'd prefer them to be under the cap and have some breathing room for at least a season. and then that should leave them with enough cap to bring in impactful win-now players.

Are they all 1st overall selections?

Is it wrong to hope that your team has one of the top 20 players in the league?
- 1970vintage

I believe 6 of top 10 forwards are 1st overall.

Its not wrong to want it but drafting 5oa at best might get you the best player in that draft but doesn't mean that player is a top 30 player in the league over 15-20 years of drafting.

Ian Clarke thinking he might have some work to do with Hotlby.

There he is!

5oltby

His 3.88 is safe for another year.

Most of the dead-weight will be gone next next summer, people can argue players like Myers but he contributes and isn't an anchor such as LE, Sutter, Roussel, Beagle all on the sidelines.
- Nucker101

What decides JB’s ultimate fate is what he does once those are gone. Many are pessimistic outta hand. It will be a crucial time for sure these next 2 offseasons etc. Imo I dare say FA sees this & why these latest rumours. Hopefully it’s the last of his involvement & he has a management team that is autonomous from his meddling.