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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
I just don't see the point in discussing Miller trades, he was mentioned by name as a core player by Aquilini today in the letter to season ticket holders. It would be weird to see him traded just. a few weeks later lol.

Schmidt was left off, interestingly so was Myers.

- Nucker101


Miller is key to the top 6. Filled a need indeed. If moved it would have to be a very good return. Personally I don’t see him moving. Only way is if for top 4 RHD & that D man would have to be a no brainer.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
Let's not forget we are still likely one of the only teams he will accept a trade to. This also free's us up to use one of OJ or Bone to trade for another RHD.

Hughes - Hamonic
OEL - ?
OJ/Bone - Myers

- Retinalz


I’ve read from Yotes fans that OEL can play RHD as well
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 21 @ 5:14 PM ET
i love the fact that as canuck fans now, this is the first thought whenever a player is acquired.
- RealityChecker

I put that in there for the Ney-Sayers. Lets them know that when he declines and we need the Cap the buyout is very easy on the team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:14 PM ET
Miller is key to the top 6. Filled a need indeed. If moved it would have to be a very good return. Personally I don’t see him moving. Only way is if for top 4 RHD & that D man would have to be a no brainer.
- Nighthawk


He’s the only true powerforward in the top 6, those guys don’t grown on trees. Hog plays a fearless game and is strong but doesn’t have the same size/stature.

Hopefully Podkolzin becomes a legit top 6 PWF, it would be awesome having two legit ones in the top 6
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 21 @ 5:14 PM ET
Covid protocols limited practice time, more time with Clark or a new goalie coach could help him.
- Nucker101

but earlier you said that his bad play was possibly due to not getting into a rhythm and not playing enough.

so how many games are you expecting him to play next season? and yes or no, will they be enough for him to get into the rhythm you said he needed to be in to play well.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
Tampa needs to shed salary pretty badly so you'd have to think they'd consider it.

I really like Hog though, that would hurt.

- Nucker101

Gotta give to get & never easy to let go a young player like Hoagie.

The real question is how good is Cernak & does he fill a bigger need. Can a prospect winger make the team to lessen the loss?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
but earlier you said that his bad play was possibly due to not getting into a rhythm and not playing enough.

so how many games are you expecting him to play next season? and yes or no, will they be enough for him to get into the rhythm you said he needed to be in to play well.

- RealityChecker


Both reasons likely played a factor. Demko should start the majority.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
Gotta give to get & never easy to let go a young player like Hoagie.

The real question is how good is Cernak & does he fill a bigger need. Can a prospect winger make the team to lessen the loss?

- Nighthawk


I’d rather pay less for Manson and keep Hogs

Need his forechecking
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 21 @ 5:17 PM ET
that was sarcasm.

just like the troll job nucker is playing right now being a benning bro.

- RealityChecker

ah
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
Adam Pelech.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
I put that in there for the Ney-Sayers. Lets them know that when he declines and we need the Cap the buyout is very easy on the team.
- Retinalz

if FA wouldn't allow a buyout last season to let JB sign a player he wanted, do you think there will be several buyouts in the next few years?

from the earlier pages, it seems like a few here think buyouts are inevitable this offseason. if that's the case, does this bode well or badly for future potential buyouts.

i only ask because it seems that the talk of buyouts the last couple of seasons has been as plentiful as the talks about offer sheets. and just like offer sheets, they seem to be more unicorn than horse.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
I’ve read from Yotes fans that OEL can play RHD as well
- Nucker101

If either OEL or Hughes can play their offside then it could work.

Hughes can be a rover on either side imo.
OEL albeit pricey is a good add but causes cap issues. The D does improve.

OEL Hughes
Rathbone Savard
OJ Hamonic
Bowey
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

May 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
Would Hoglander and a 2nd get you Cernak?
- VanHockeyGuy


Overpayment for team in cap hell and player likely e-draft non protected.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 5:20 PM ET
He’s the only true powerforward in the top 6, those guys don’t grown on trees. Hog plays a fearless game and is strong but doesn’t have the same size/stature.

Hopefully Podkolzin becomes a legit top 6 PWF, it would be awesome having two legit ones in the top 6

- Nucker101

Agreed

Miller is a core player
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Both reasons likely played a factor. Demko should start the majority.
- Nucker101

how many games do you expect holtby to play? a mjority for demko is anywhere from 42 to 81 games.

and in your estimation, will holtby get enough games to get into the groove that you earlier said he needs to be in to play well.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
I’d rather pay less for Manson and keep Hogs

Need his forechecking

- Nucker101

Ok then sign Savard is my move.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 21 @ 5:24 PM ET
Overpayment for team in cap hell and player likely e-draft non protected.
- NuckUp

No way in hell Cernak is unprotected.
Cheap big & good.

Overpayment? Nope. RHD don’t come cheap.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 21 @ 5:25 PM ET
Cal Foote
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
Cal Foote
- Reubenkincade

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:28 PM ET
Adam Pelech.
- Reubenkincade


Doubt he’s available since Trots loves him but he’d be amazing
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:28 PM ET
Ok then sign Savard is my move.
- Nighthawk


maybe. depends on price
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Cal Foote
- Reubenkincade


Isn’t his foote speed questionable?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
No way in hell Cernak is unprotected.
Cheap big & good.

Overpayment? Nope. RHD don’t come cheap.

- Nighthawk

This
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 21 @ 5:30 PM ET

- RealityChecker


A good defenseman, Toews went for 2 2nds, and an average defenseman, Schmidt, cost a 3rd, plus his 6 million salary, so I would think a player like Foote should only cost a 2nd or a 3rd in 2022.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
This
- Nucker101

If you're Seattle, do you take Cal Foote or Ryan McDonaugh?
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