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I think it's also important to note that Winnipeg swept the Oilers in part due to how well Pionk played. The days where bigger is better doesn't really apply anymore. Besides, we already have Trouba and Lindgren that provide some grit back there. I don't think Miller will develop into a push over either.

Ugh work PC acting up don't know why it put the cursor there.

Watching these playoffs, do you think we need a couple sub 6’, 180lb defensemen or 2 guys that are 6’2 and 6’4, 215lbs?

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they're (WPG) really built up front though.

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when I think of trading Zac Jones it does make me think of trading Pionk, I think it's a good comp

haha, Stephen A Smith is a dooosh but this is kinda right on the button

https://twitter.com/OhRya.../1397309964813754369?s=20

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Nothing saying that we can't do that. We already have a couple of those bigger pieces in CK and Kakko. I think Laf can put on some weight and get a mean streak in him as well.

There is no evidence to support this, merely speculation.
Just because he might not play in NY, he won't have any interest in being in the best league in the world?
I think there's a good chance you are mistaken here.
- Tonybere

Im sure he does want to play in the NHL, Im just saying he might just wait it out and become a free agent. I hope not, I hope things can get worked out, maybe some players flipping sides, who knows, but I dont want to trade him at all, for anyone including our coveted 2C.

Im sure he does want to play in the NHL, Im just saying he might just wait it out and become a free agent. I hope not, I hope things can get worked out, maybe some players flipping sides, who knows, but I dont want to trade him at all, for anyone including our coveted 2C.
- Brukie

I don't think Lundkvist should be an untouchable

to me, besides the NMC guys, there are only 3 absolute untouchables, Lafreniere, Fox and Shesterkin

but it would take incredible trades to be willing to part with Kakko or Lundkvist

Im sure he does want to play in the NHL, Im just saying he might just wait it out and become a free agent. I hope not, I hope things can get worked out, maybe some players flipping sides, who knows, but I dont want to trade him at all, for anyone including our coveted 2C.
- Brukie

I can understand that. I don't want to trade him either. But, I feel the same way to varying degrees about Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Jones, Schneider, Robertson, Reunanen and Skinner.
So, somethings gotta give. So long as any trades are PROPERLY addressing our needs, we have to find a way to live with it.

Introducing Pionk here because he had a good series against a VERY flawed Oiler team isn't relevant. Pionk had a GREAT season with the Jets, but I wouldn't undo that trade. Our roster still needs more Trouba-like players.
Pionk would not have had such a good season had he been playing in our division this past crazy season. He would have had some serious issues playing against the Bruins, Isles, etc. Pionks numbers were clearly skewed by playing in what we now know was the weakest division in the NHL.

Introducing Pionk here because he had a good series against a VERY flawed Oiler team isn't relevant. Pionk had a GREAT season with the Jets, but I wouldn't undo that trade. Our roster still needs more Trouba-like players.
Pionk would not have had such a good season had he been playing in our division this past crazy season. He would have had some serious issues playing against the Bruins, Isles, etc. Pionks numbers were clearly skewed by playing in what we now know was the weakest division in the NHL.
- TommyGTrain

I like Trouba a lot, the team fell apart without him, not a coincidence

Introducing Pionk here because he had a good series against a VERY flawed Oiler team isn't relevant. Pionk had a GREAT season with the Jets, but I wouldn't undo that trade. Our roster still needs more Trouba-like players.
Pionk would not have had such a good season had he been playing in our division this past crazy season. He would have had some serious issues playing against the Bruins, Isles, etc. Pionks numbers were clearly skewed by playing in what we now know was the weakest division in the NHL.
- TommyGTrain

My point wasn't to say I wanted to undo that trade, it was that it was an example of an effective smaller defender, and we shouldn't dismiss guys like Jones for that fact.

haha, Stephen A Smith is a dooosh but this is kinda right on the button

https://twitter.com/OhRya.../1397309964813754369?s=20
- jimbro83

Oh god hockey coverage on ESPN is going to be insufferable

tell me you didn't blow balloons and put out party hats around the house thinking JD and Gorton getting fired was the door for Tony D to come back

PLEASE
- jimbro83

I said with them gone he could come back, much different than wanting them gone or being happy about it

Oh god hockey coverage on ESPN is going to be insufferable
- eichiefs9

I'm not sure why people expected anything different. ESPN has been trash since the early 2000s

My point wasn't to say I wanted to undo that trade, it was that it was an example of an effective smaller defender, and we shouldn't dismiss guys like Jones for that fact.
- 2sticks1puck

True, but the Rangers don't need more smaller defenders than what we already have.

haha, Stephen A Smith is a dooosh but this is kinda right on the button

https://twitter.com/OhRya.../1397309964813754369?s=20
- jimbro83

you know its bad when even Gretz says yeah, i'm out of here with regards to EDM. Honestly though, didn't even know he was working for them.

True, but the Rangers don't need more smaller defenders than what we already have.
- TommyGTrain

If he can play, it shouldn't matter. I'm accidently flagging any post if someone says they'd rather have a blue line of 6 Lindgrens than 6 Foxes because of size.

Besides, Jones is 5 11. Is that one inch really making a difference? Tell the kid to hit the gym and call it a day if he's got skill

you know its bad when even Gretz says yeah, i'm out of here with regards to EDM. Honestly though, didn't even know he was working for them.
- MeltingPlastic

honestly, I didn't know Leetch was working for the Rangers and I didn't know Gretzky was working for the Oilers

If he can play, it shouldn't matter. I'm accidently flagging any post if someone says they'd rather have a blue line of 6 Lindgrens than 6 Foxes because of size.

Besides, Jones is 5 11. Is that one inch really making a difference? Tell the kid to hit the gym and call it a day if he's got skill
- 2sticks1puck

maybe its because we played those Caps games at the end of season and that team is gigantic, but, it just seemed to me like Zac Jones was extremely tiny

I see him listed as 5-11 but also 5-10 other places, I think he's closer to 5-10

maybe its because we played those Caps games at the end of season and that team is gigantic, but, it just seemed to me like Zac Jones was extremely tiny

I see him listed as 5-11 but also 5-10 other places, I think he's closer to 5-10
- jimbro83

He also uses a stick designed for a 8 year old, that didn't help

I can understand that. I don't want to trade him either. But, I feel the same way to varying degrees about Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Jones, Schneider, Robertson, Reunanen and Skinner.
So, somethings gotta give. So long as any trades are PROPERLY addressing our needs, we have to find a way to live with it.
- Tonybere

I doubt Fox and Lindgren are going anywhere, Id just rather keep Schneider, the others I would trade for a 2C.

Id love to do a Miller for Turcotte swap with LA.

I doubt Fox and Lindgren are going anywhere, Id just rather keep Schneider, the others I would trade for a 2C.

Id love to do a Miller for Turcotte swap with LA.
- Brukie

I think the basis for a deal could happen with that, however, LA needs to kick in more

I think the basis for a deal could happen with that, however, LA needs to kick in more
- jimbro83

I agree, Miller looks like a first pairing defender in his own right.

I think the basis for a deal could happen with that, however, LA needs to kick in more
- jimbro83

Centers are a premium and we are loaded on the right side. If they kicked in a second or third rounder, would you do it?