Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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In Price's defence, nobody expected Rielly to actually hit the net.
All of us included. - Atomic Wedgie
fair |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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ill wait for the Leafs-Habs series to end before I fully jump in on the loilers garbage fire, but man is it fun to watch another team get hot take'd into oblivion - senstroll
I just think it's kinda sad.
It's sad for McDavid, who is wasting his career.
And it's sad for Oilers fans, who know this isn't going to end well.
I honestly don't know what they can do - how do you start over with McDavid and Draistatl locked in? |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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If we're talking about goalies in the playoffs, we should actually look at team play first.
Toronto has allowed the second fewest High Danger chances / 60 @ 7.3 (Colorado leads with 6.5), which is better than 3rd place Boston's 8.3 by a good margin. You could argue that's more the Habs not breaking through and not getting sustained pressure down low, but I think the Leafs' D has done an admirable job through 3 games. The team allowing the most High Danger chances? The Jets (14.4). So I think Hellebuyck's performance against the Oilers can't be overstated enough.
Ultimately if you take the xGA minus the actual GA to determine who's getting the best goaltending, the Jets are first (1.39), the Leafs are second (.83) and the Habs are third (.74), so comparing Campbell to Price and being unable to determine who's been better? That's why. They've both been fantastic.
By the way Chris Dreidger has been the worst goalie in the playoffs by a mile - averaging -1.5 goals against per game that he should have saved by GSAA. |
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bobbyisno1
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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Ugh this day is dragging on.
Got my Vaccine shot booked for 2pm...then the game 5 hrs later.
Lets get this day moving. - Fakepartofme
Got mine on Friday. Got Moderna, no side effects except a sore arm for three days. |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I just think it's kinda sad.
It's sad for McDavid, who is wasting his career.
And it's sad for Oilers fans, who know this isn't going to end well.
I honestly don't know what they can do - how do you start over with McDavid and Draistatl locked in? - Atomic Wedgie
I do feel for Mcdavid, none of its his fault. Best player hands down and still nothing to show for it. Still havent put the right GM in place imo
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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I just think it's kinda sad.
It's sad for McDavid, who is wasting his career.
And it's sad for Oilers fans, who know this isn't going to end well.
I honestly don't know what they can do - how do you start over with McDavid and Draistatl locked in? - Atomic Wedgie
It was all Helly is what the analytics people will say. Oilers are awesome but got stymied by a goalie and just the goalie. 🥴 |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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In Price's defence, nobody expected Rielly to actually hit the net.
All of us included. - Atomic Wedgie
Same here..
I expected Rielly to look off Matthews and shoot it into the shins of a nearby Habs player.. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I thought it was a triumph of the human spirit. - Aetherial
I was born the 23 child of a poor Peruvian coal miner in Ottawa. Given that there were no coal mines in Ottawa, things were tough at home and we were forced to watch Montreal Canadien hockey games for medical experiments. Luckily, one day Enrique found a Roch Carrier story book and we learned that there was another way. That knowledge and the warmth from chewing on the cocoa leaf (very similar in look to the stylized look on the current TML jersey) kept us going. |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I do feel for Mcdavid, none of its his fault. Best player hands down and still nothing to show for it. Still havent put the right GM in place imo - senstroll
it's gotta be hard for McDavid... Probably feels like he is always playing 1 on 5 every even strength shift.. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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dupe - Aetherial
No puppet. You’re the puppet. |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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It was all Helly is what the analytics people will say. Oilers are awesome but got stymied by a goalie and just the goalie. 🥴 - Garnie
Is it fair to say 'just the goalie', when it's your own goalie screwing you over? |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Same here..
I expected Rielly to look off Matthews and shoot it into the shins of a nearby Habs player.. - PatC80
People say Price was out of position - but he was making the educated guess that Rielly would (once again) shoot wide across the front of the net, so that the puck would ring around the boards and create a 2 on 1 for the Habs going the other way. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I was born the 23 child of a poor Peruvian coal miner in Ottawa. Given that there were no coal mines in Ottawa, things were tough at home and we were forced to watch Montreal Canadien hockey games for medical experiments. Luckily, one day Enrique found a Roch Carrier story book and we learned that there was another way. That knowledge and the warmth from chewing on the cocoa leaf (very similar in look to the stylized look on the current TML jersey) kept us going. - Canada Cup
chocolatey story... although I am guessing you meant Coca leaf |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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I do feel for Mcdavid, none of its his fault. Best player hands down and still nothing to show for it. Still havent put the right GM in place imo - senstroll
They have pretty good stats for the playoffs.
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Is it fair to say 'just the goalie', when it's your own goalie screwing you over? - PatC80
Depends, watch the game nerd!!!
If it’s a barrage of odd mans and a 1 timers probably not. If it’s a bunch of goals like Rielly’s and Suzuki’s last night then yes. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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chocolatey story... although I am guessing you meant Coca leaf - Aetherial
Good catch druggie |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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In Price's defence, nobody expected Rielly to actually hit the net.
All of us included. - Atomic Wedgie
While as you correctly state, Rielly does have an aversion to shooting (and his shot is lousy and inaccurate) , his aversion pales in comparison to Marner's. Goodness, Marner must have had 3 or 4 clear looks from slot or close and chose to pass it into the corner to Matthews or Hyman.
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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It was all Helly is what the analytics people will say. Oilers are awesome but got stymied by a goalie and just the goalie. 🥴 - Garnie
Hellebuyck was awesome. The analytics back it up, but if you watched the games, you know he made great saves. He stopped breakaways and one-timers. He stopped a lot of in-tight, close shots and chances. The problem, if you're Edmonton, is that the Jets managed to contain McDavid somewhat. He took 19 hits in a 4 game series - the most of any Oiler.
Maurice is a solid coach and knows how to defense. The Jets have also bought into him, so even though their defensive group is a bit thin, they play well. |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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People say Price was out of position - but he was making the educated guess that Rielly would (once again) shoot wide across the front of the net, so that the puck would ring around the boards and create a 2 on 1 for the Habs going the other way. - Atomic Wedgie
Price was playing the percentages... there was a 99% chance Rielly would miss the net |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Depends, watch the game nerd!!!
If it’s a barrage of odd mans and a 1 timers probably not. If it’s a bunch of goals like Rielly’s and Suzuki’s last night then yes. - Garnie
what about point shots like Josh Morrisey's goal or shots from the face off dot like Ehlers goal or like the winner last night by Kyle Connor? |
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I just think it's kinda sad.
It's sad for McDavid, who is wasting his career.
And it's sad for Oilers fans, who know this isn't going to end well.
I honestly don't know what they can do - how do you start over with McDavid and Draistatl locked in? - Atomic Wedgie
Out of 25ish roster players, how much turnover could a GM achieve by trading some guys away?
Oilers should probably just keep McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, Yamamoto, Klefbom, Nurse and Larsson. Plus a few prospects.
7 roster players.
Trade the other guys away, maybe buy out a few guys.
Bring in some guys via trades, and sign UFAs, maybe offersheet a guy?
I think it is the only way - almost have to approach this in a similar way as an expansion draft like Vegas did and Seattle is going to do..
Only like that the message to McDavid is clear that you really want him to succeed.
Not sure which GM would be the best to lead a team through such an off-season though.. definitely not Holland. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Price was playing the percentages... there was a 99% chance Rielly would miss the net - PatC80
So I guess he made the right play after all.
Just with a bad result
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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what about point shots like Josh Morrisey's goal or shots from the face off dot like Ehlers goal or like the winner last night by Kyle Connor? - PatC80
I didn’t watch, but people are saying they need a new GM. Sounds like they need a goalie who seemed to have a pretty good year. Were they good goals? (Screens or tips ) or were they soft like a couple last night in our game? |
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