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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Toronto beats Montreal at their own game; Leafs vs. Habs - Game 4
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
Rumors are Bergevin will be in the talks for Eichel.

It's bound to be very costly though, despite the 10M pricetag.

- Scabeh


The price on Eichel is what you pay for elite talent, so I don't think that's a factor in any deal.

I would imagine that you're talking a 1st or two, and Caulfield or Romanov and another prospect like a Guhle or a Poehling, depending on which NHL-ready prospect is moved.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
The Devils that won cups had quite a few elite/superstar players. Brodeur, Elias, Sykora, Niedermayer, Rafalski, Scott Stevens, Arnott, Nieuwendyk, Gionta, pre-Habs Gomez... Those teams had piles of talent.

The Canes are probably the weakest team in decades to win the cup, but even they had some elite talent (at the time..... Staal was at the top of his game, so was Stillman). Whitney, Rod the Bod, Williams.

But yeah, they were not a stacked team. They caught Cam Ward on a hot streak.

- prock


And they took Saku's eye out to come back and beat the Habs.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Like I say, I don’t know that they can make the money work but it’s a big jump from 22 to 55 or more games. They need somebody more than a cheap backup. Not saying Freddie but it’s gotta be more than Big Save Dave. There are guys who can come in as a 1b
- Canada Cup


Yeah there are usually a few options out there. Was not impressed by Rittich in the small sample size. Be nice if it looked like we had a good young goalie in the system ready to make the jump.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
And they took Saku's eye out to come back and beat the Habs.

- Scabeh


I don't remember that. What happened?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Like I say, I don’t know that they can make the money work but it’s a big jump from 22 to 55 or more games. They need somebody more than a cheap backup. Not saying Freddie but it’s gotta be more than Big Save Dave. There are guys who can come in as a 1b
- Canada Cup

Leafs need the classic "older guy, here to support the young goalie, teach him how to relax, but not threaten to take away his starting job" backup goalie.

Luckily, you can get those guys for cheap every year.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
ECHL is bound for LA or the Rags. Book it.
- mjones242


From everything I've read they have the prospect capital to get it done. They also have higher first round pick positioning, too.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
I don't remember that. What happened?
- Aetherial


Accidental high stick in Saku's eye.

Habs were in complete control until that moment.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
Matthews is leading the playoffs in takeaways, and doesn't have any giveaways yet. He's third among Leaf forwards in hits. I've loved how well rounded his game has been. I'm not taking away from Nylander and Campbell at all - but I would be mentioning AM34 in any Leaf conversation. He's agitating, he's controlling the play, he's defensively sound, he's hitting . . . going into the playoffs I didn't think he had ANY of that in his game at a consistent level, and I've been very impressed.
- Monkeypunk


AM is always good..he suffers from Great player is always great so it gets ignored when other players step up and are noticeable
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
The price on Eichel is what you pay for elite talent, so I don't think that's a factor in any deal.

I would imagine that you're talking a 1st or two, and Caulfield or Romanov and another prospect like a Guhle or a Poehling, depending on which NHL-ready prospect is moved.

- Monkeypunk

I'd probably be pretty risk adverse if I was an NHL GM, so there's no way I'm trading the farm for a guy who says he needs newfangled spinal surgery that inserts an artificial disk (or something wacky like that - I'm not a doctor).
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
I hope so.
- Fakepartofme

Rags is my guess: imagine ECHL playing w/ Panarin on his wing? The Rags are filled to the brim with offensive talent.

Just can't picture him wanting to go to a club that would have to give up a lot of significant young pieces that are destined be core players (Suzuki, Mole, Romanov, et al.) to land him.

I think ECHL wants to be "the guy" and the Rags provide one of hockey's brightest spotlights and are much closer to being a contender than the Habs.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
Accidental high stick in Saku's eye.

Habs were in complete control until that moment.

- Scabeh

Kinda like the Leafs and Berard, except the Leafs were a complete mess, and Berard had no idea how to play defence.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
Accidental high stick in Saku's eye.

Habs were in complete control until that moment.

- Scabeh


That would have been a pretty bad loss for the Habs back then. It's the loss of talent, the captain, the disruption to the lines, and the psychological impact of a serious injury that all impacts the team.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Leafs need the classic "older guy, here to support the young goalie, teach him how to relax, but not threaten to take away his starting job" backup goalie.

Luckily, you can get those guys for cheap every year.

- Atomic Wedgie


Ok, Grubuaer hits a couple of those criteria
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
What can the habs do to even make the playoffs next year/ That roster is really bad and they are stuck with it.

Josh Anderson=David Clarkson

- RogerRoeper


You mean your dislike of the players? Surely you can't seriously compare lead hands Clarkson to one of the more effective power forwards in the league? Anderson can skate well and unlike Clarkson not on his ankles.


dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Yeah there are usually a few options out there. Was not impressed by Rittich in the small sample size. Be nice if it looked like we had a good young goalie in the system ready to make the jump.
- Aetherial

with the Leafs getting a goalie from CBJ and signing of the KHL (?) goalie, Leafs may need to sign one to be exposed (Hutchinson)

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
That would have been a pretty bad loss for the Habs back then. It's the loss of talent, the captain, the disruption to the lines, and the psychological impact of a serious injury that all impacts the team.
- Aetherial


Saku in his prime didn't get the respect he deserved. Even in Montreal by Habs fans.

Guy was a fighter and so quick on his skates.

Too bad he was never surrounded by good enough players.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
You mean your dislike of the players? Surely you can't seriously compare lead hands Clarkson to one of the more effective power forwards in the league? Anderson can skate well and unlike Clarkson not on his ankles.
- winsix

I’d take Anderson on our squad in a heart beat.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
I’d take Anderson on our squad in a heart beat.
- Garnie


Yeah he's great.

His contract is too long.

But (frank)ing love Anderson.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
I’d take Anderson on our squad in a heart beat.
- Garnie


Ditto, but not at the cost of losing Hyman.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
Accidental high stick in Saku's eye.

Habs were in complete control until that moment.

- Scabeh


I forgot this last night, meant to drop it in the Hab thread but I didn’t want to be hunted down and murdered.

winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
Kinda like the Leafs and Berard, except the Leafs were a complete mess, and Berard had no idea how to play defence.
- Atomic Wedgie


Berard never got the chance to shine, diaper rash Hossa ended his career.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
I forgot this last night, meant to drop it in the Hab thread but I didn’t want to be hunted down and murdered.


- Garnie


I'll be posting the apes tonight you bastard!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Ditto, but not at the cost of losing Hyman.
- winsix


He’s better then Hyman and another player I won’t name to save myself a couple hours of being hounded.
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

May 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
Mtl stinks besides Price its a weak bad team It is a embarresement to see such a team in the playoffs. They are so bad and really have no business being in the playoffs.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
I'll be posting the apes tonight you bastard!

- Scabeh



I’m sure I got roasted after my 2 gifs the other night. I didn’t dare go back.
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