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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Looks like Sandin back in. Dermott skating with the exrras
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
I don't have Lidstrom as the best defenseman ever. Bobby Orr deserves that honour. But saying Lidstrom is overrated is (frank)ing foolish.
- gergeswillems

It all depends in the context by which "overrated" is being used though, doesn't it? I don't think he belongs in the conversation as the "best ever".

Having said that, I can give you a dissertation backed with era-adjusted statistics and relative team strength to back up my "(frank)ing foolish" take if you like.

Not sure why my opinion has rankled you so hard that you went out of your way - and out of context - to basically say "(frank) you for your opinion", but okay.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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May 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
It all depends in the context by which "overrated" is being used though, doesn't it? I don't think he belongs in the conversation as the "best ever".

Having said that, I can give you a dissertation backed with era-adjusted statistics and relative team strength to back up my "(frank)ing foolish" take if you like.

Not sure why my opinion has rankled you so hard that you went out of your way - and out of context - to basically say "(frank) you for your opinion", but okay.

- mjones242

Probably because he's a Wings fan who watched Lidstrom every year dominate the league and win all those accolades for his team and himself?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Looks like Sandin back in. Dermott skating with the exrras
- Canada Cup

Good play by Keefe to give Cornrow Dermott some minutes. Better play by Keefe to go back to the more dynamic Sandin for Game 5.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
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May 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
If the Preds got out of the division, I'd not want to play them. That would mean Saros is channeling his Hasek/Roy.
- AdamFrench


Dude's been a massive pain in the ass for a small goalie.

His save percentage is only .001 better than Nedeljkovic's, but he's faced 40 more shots through 5 games.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 27 @ 11:22 AM ET
Probably because he's a Wings fan who watched Lidstrom every year dominate the league and win all those accolades for his team and himself?
- AdamFrench

Oh, I see. So a fanboy who devotes themselves to watching one team is an objective and reliable source?

Confirmation bias can be fun.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

May 27 @ 11:24 AM ET
I think price could steal a game while they still had their foot on the gas
- senstroll


It’s possible, but even if Price goes full god-mode the reality is Montreal sucks. All you need is to crash in 1 goal. They can’t score and when we play our game they cant even get in our zone effectively. There PP is worse then ours also!

Plus, as good as Price has been, he is not the old Price. That goal that Rielly scored the other day was an example. He shot his meager wrist shot directly in the center of the net. Price was way out of position... He ain’t no Hasek at this point...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 27 @ 11:28 AM ET
It’s possible, but even if Price goes full god-mode the reality is Montreal sucks. All you need is to crash in 1 goal. They can’t score and when we play our game they cant even get in our zone effectively. There PP is worse then ours also!

Plus, as good as Price has been, he is not the old Price. That goal that Rielly scored the other day was an example. He shot his meager wrist shot directly in the center of the net. Price was way out of position... He ain’t no Hasek at this point...

- Hockey_Reverend

It was fun to watch game 4 - once we got the lead, the Habs had to quit trapping, and it lead to chances galore for us.

First goal tonight is bigly yuge.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 11:32 AM ET
It was fun to watch game 4 - once we got the lead, the Habs had to quit trapping, and it lead to chances galore for us.

First goal tonight is bigly yuge.

- Atomic Wedgie


For the shutout streak
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
For the shutout streak
- Canada Cup

Holy frank, did you just say the forbidden word?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.11.2011

May 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
It was fun to watch game 4 - once we got the lead, the Habs had to quit trapping, and it lead to chances galore for us.

First goal tonight is bigly yuge.

- Atomic Wedgie



I agree, I think if the Leafs score the 1st goal early, we can open up Montreal and use our speed to take advantage of their defense
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

May 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
Great to see JT on the ice!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.11.2011

May 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
It’s possible, but even if Price goes full god-mode the reality is Montreal sucks. All you need is to crash in 1 goal. They can’t score and when we play our game they cant even get in our zone effectively. There PP is worse then ours also!

Plus, as good as Price has been, he is not the old Price. That goal that Rielly scored the other day was an example. He shot his meager wrist shot directly in the center of the net. Price was way out of position... He ain’t no Hasek at this point...

- Hockey_Reverend



Leafs score first, Leafs win..

Price can still steal games..

To be fair to Price, I don't think anyone expected Rielly to actually hit the net
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
Oh, I see. So a fanboy who devotes themselves to watching one team is an objective and reliable source?

Confirmation bias can be fun.

- mjones242



this is a very accurate description of 70-90% of the Leafs fans in this thread though..
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 06.22.2015

May 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
this is a very accurate description of 70-90% of the Leafs fans in this thread though..
- MaximusAurelius

Agreed. Though I'd go as far as to say it's a very accurate description of most fans regardless of sports and/or fanbase.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
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May 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
Leafs score first, Leafs win..

Price can still steal games..

To be fair to Price, I don't think anyone expected Rielly to actually hit the net

- PatC80

Right?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
Good play by Keefe to give Cornrow Dermott some minutes. Better play by Keefe to go back to the more dynamic Sandin for Game 5.
- mjones242


What's encouraging is that the minor lineup shuffles have been pretty much unnoticeable except for the QB on 1st PP
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

May 27 @ 11:44 AM ET
Leafs score first, Leafs win..

Price can still steal games..

To be fair to Price, I don't think anyone expected Rielly to actually hit the net

- PatC80


It was a shock to all of us!

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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May 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
It was a shock to all of us!


- Hockey_Reverend

VIRTUE!!!!!!
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 06.22.2015

May 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
What's encouraging is that the minor lineup shuffles have been pretty much unnoticeable except for the QB on 1st PP
- TheMussel

Dermott played zero mistake hockey and it's terrific that they can be confident to go back to him in a pinch. Hope Dermott doesn't need to come back in but good to know he's there and, I'm sure, he's pushed Hutton (who I kind of liked) out of the equation for the time being.

Having said that, playing zero mistake hockey still can't get a guy to crack the lineup which is a testament to how the Leafs feel that Sandin can add more versatility. That PPQB1 option isn't the only difference - Sandin has added some sandpaper to his game and he's so damn cool-nerves with the puck. Love it!

Leafs depth!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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May 27 @ 11:48 AM ET
I wonder if they sit Foligno tonight, even if he is good to go.

Better safe than sorry.

Yes, I'm counting those chickens...
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
I wonder if they sit Foligno tonight, even if he is good to go.

Better safe than sorry.

Yes, I'm counting those chickens...

- Atomic Wedgie



If it was me, it's a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" thing for now. Habs have been putting their lines through the blender and it hasn't worked so roll with what worked last couple of games and let people get healthy for the peg.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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May 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
I wonder if they sit Foligno tonight, even if he is good to go.

Better safe than sorry.

Yes, I'm counting those chickens...

- Atomic Wedgie

Might as well. The PK has been amazing and the PP mediocre, but probably not improved by him.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.18.2015

May 27 @ 11:52 AM ET
Hoping for baseball practice to be canceled due to rain tonight 🙏
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 27 @ 11:58 AM ET
Oh, I see. So a fanboy who devotes themselves to watching one team is an objective and reliable source?

Confirmation bias can be fun.

- mjones242


What’s not to like about Lidstrom??? I thought he was pretty awesome.
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