I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying..


With covid this year And people not playing Those players are in the 2nd round and 3rd to 4th round..

didn't get to prove themselves to move up in the draft rankings..( Potential 1st round picks or top picks )

**** For example Jack quinn had a 3rd round grade before the year started If covid happened his draft year he wouldn't have been a top 10 draft choice***
- gerbe75pts

Such a bad pick.

Portland, San Diego, Oakland, Orlando, etc


unless Terry has it in writing that they stay
- homiedclown

It's amazing even the sh!t show on ice, the Sabres have tripled in value since the Pegula's bought them to 384mill and the Bill's have gone up about 800mill. It will be interesting to see what happens 5-10yrs down the road, are any of there kids involved in either franchise.

last place kim, jessica and kelly want to live out their lives is buffalo


they want to be in the spotlight, a spotlight brighter then anything eyewitness news can give them


one day you can stop the insults and grow up, but clearly not today
- homiedclown

Can't say I blame them, since Buffalo, and Western New York in general, is just an extension of Appalachia.

**** For example Jack quinn had a 3rd round grade before the year started If covid happened his draft year he wouldn't have been a top 10 draft choice***
- gerbe75pts

if there was a 2020 redraft, quinn would not go in the top 15 right now

Such a bad pick.
- ImThatGuy

Not a bad player at all just better players ahead of him

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying..


With covid this year And people not playing Those players are in the 2nd round and 3rd to 4th round..

didn't get to prove themselves to move up in the draft rankings..( Potential 1st round picks or top picks )

**** For example Jack quinn had a 3rd round grade before the year started If covid happened his draft year he wouldn't have been a top 10 draft choice***
- gerbe75pts

I understand what you are saying 2/3rd rounders have a chance to be first rounders more with more games played. The talent would then be shifted. But we aren't getting a first round talent. Really look at previous drafts. Guys from picks 20-50 (pending on the draft possibly a smaller amount) are graded roughly the same. Look at Johnson for example. He was ranked as high as 22 I believe, and as low as 44. Happens every year. Converse logic to your argument if you'll humor me. We could pick a guy at 33 who if he had played this year would actually have fallen to a 4th rounder. Guys don't always increase their stock. For everyone that does, there is one that falls. Make sense?

Such a bad pick.
- ImThatGuy

I know. Ottawa was smart not take him last year.

The comparison for Peterka to Quinn for me comes in the WJC. They both participated, Quinn had minimal impact, while Peterka was the second best player on his team and a stud in the tournament.

I'm not downgrading the player because of others being better prospects. He can be really good, but if he's the 30 best player from the draft (hyperbole to prove a point) at some point you are graded against your peers. Doesn't mean he's not a good player, but by comparison not great.

I don't think Quinn is on the same planet as far as skill as Sam. Using as a benchmark doesn't apply here, IMO.

In summary, I think JJP and Quinn are much closer than you do (which is fine) and Quinn isn't by far and away our top prospect.
- SDSabre

Fwiw, that's a quick tourney and it's a lot tougher to stand out on the CAN roster over the GER one. Peterka looked great with Stutzle, it was exciting to watch. But what they've done since indicates to me that Quinn is a bit further along at his age. AHL was some good hockey this year because of Covid and the minors staying locked. He really got rolling as time went on.

Sam comparison was just about draft stock.

I get where you're coming from though with the comparison, it's sad that it's a plausible discussion. Out of curiosity, who do you think our top guy is? JJP or one of the D?

if there was a 2020 redraft, quinn would not go in the top 15 right now
- homiedclown

You cant do a redraft a year later lol

Have to wait at least 3 years

if there was a 2020 redraft, quinn would not go in the top 15 right now
- homiedclown

If only one of us had been in the room to stop Adams from taking him.

It's amazing even the sh!t show on ice, the Sabres have tripled in value since the Pegula's bought them to 384mill and the Bill's have gone up about 800mill. It will be interesting to see what happens 5-10yrs down the road, are any of there kids involved in either franchise.
- Buff36

might be sooner then that

Terry is 70
overweight

I know. Ottawa was smart not take him last year.
- RichardRoma

You cant do a redraft a year later lol

Have to wait at least 3 years
- gerbe75pts

I hope adams learned from that mistake

I understand what you are saying 2/3rd rounders have a chance to be first rounders more with more games played. The talent would then be shifted. But we aren't getting a first round talent. Really look at previous drafts. Guys from picks 20-50 (pending on the draft possibly a smaller amount) are graded roughly the same. Look at Johnson for example. He was ranked as high as 22 I believe, and as low as 44. Happens every year. Converse logic to your argument if you'll humor me. We could pick a guy at 33 who if he had played this year would actually have fallen to a 4th rounder. Guys don't always increase their stock. For everyone that does, there is one that falls. Make sense?
- SDSabre

This draft is not comparable to any draft ever The best player might be in the 3rd round this year in the entire draft .

Having late picks this year could be gold players like ehlers etc etc could be in the 3rd or 5th Because scouting was so limited and because players got screwed

Fwiw, that's a quick tourney and it's a lot tougher to stand out on the CAN roster over the GER one. Peterka looked great with Stutzle, it was exciting to watch. But what they've done since indicates to me that Quinn is a bit further along at his age. AHL was some good hockey this year because of Covid and the minors staying locked. He really got rolling as time went on.

Sam comparison was just about draft stock.

I get where you're coming from though with the comparison, it's sad that it's a plausible discussion. Out of curiosity, who do you think our top guy is? JJP or one of the D?
- RhinoFan

Depends if you still think Samuellson is a prospect. Prolly him, Johnson, JPP, UPL, and Quinn round out the top 5 as far as upside go. Then Laaksonen could force his way in as well, but I just feel he tops out as a bottom pairing that can plug into a middle pairing if needed.

For what it's worth, I hope I'm wrong on all the guys I view lower and they become exceptional NHLers for the Sabres. I'll happily eat crow if they become good. I'm not about being right for the sake of being right. Just my opinion.

I hope adams learned from that mistake
- homiedclown

Seeing how it was krouger i think he will

This draft is not comparable to any draft ever The best player might be in the 3rd round this year in the entire draft .

Having late picks this year could be gold players like ehlers etc etc could be in the 3rd or 5th Because scouting was so limited and because players got screwed
- gerbe75pts

And the reverse logic still holds true. I love that you are an eternal optimist, it's actually probably healthy haha. But like I just said, guys that go in the second based upon past performances and not being seen this year could easily have slid hard had their been that analysis. It's a double edged sword but you are only looking at the positive of it.

Not writing him off.

Stafford is a pretty apt comparison based on skill and career projection.
- sbroads24

Wasn't directed at you bud. I hope he can have a more consistent career, but not a horrible comparison.

His preference to make these passes in tight excites me, with that shot and his controlled zone entry percentages...could have something.

with our pick in the third rd

the sabres select

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying..


With covid this year And people not playing Those players are in the 2nd round and 3rd to 4th round..

didn't get to prove themselves to move up in the draft rankings..( Potential 1st round picks or top picks )

**** For example Jack quinn had a 3rd round grade before the year started If covid happened his draft year he wouldn't have been a top 10 draft choice***
- gerbe75pts

I think your point has validity to it, however like every other opportunity/challenge this offseason, do you really believe that Kevyn, Jason, their 6 Scounts and the Atari System is the organization that is going to uncover those nuggets?

I'm more convinced they will draft a 3rd round talent in the 1st.

And the reverse logic still holds true. I love that you are an eternal optimist, it's actually probably healthy haha. But like I just said, guys that go in the second based upon past performances and not being seen this year could easily have slid hard had their been that analysis. It's a double edged sword but you are only looking at the positive of it.
- SDSabre

Thats true.. but Lots of players didn't get to improve their draft rankings like years past

I think your point has validity to it, however like every other opportunity/challenge this offseason, do you really believe that Kevyn, Jason, their 6 Scounts and the Atari System is the organization that is going to uncover those nuggets?

I'm more convinced they will draft a 3rd round talent in the 1st.
- IonSabres

Don't worry I'll send them a email of players to draft .

this is a new low for the sabres though

if you are 15 years old, all you know is the sabres losing

long term affect if it doesn't change soon
- homiedclown

An entire generation of football fans graduated from high school before the Bills even sniffed the playoffs. People came roaring back to them. Same would happen with the Sabres most likely.

Thats true.. but Lots of players didn't get to improve their draft rankings like years past
- gerbe75pts

And many will stay high than they should because they didn't get to play. Again, it's a double edged sword. I'm get the point and the optimism, but for every player that moves up, you gotta understand that there's one that moves down.

Kim moves the teams within 5 years after Terry strokes out


what glamourous cities are missing both NFL and NHL?
- homiedclown

Sabres aren’t going anywhere but the Bills might.