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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
You mean the best goal-tending tandem in the league? I think a few people thought they were good enough.
- Tojo.


I mean, the two of them were KILLING for a time.

In the month of March:

Jarry: .928
DeSmith: .969
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

May 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
I mean, the two of them were KILLING for a time.

In the month of March:

Jarry: .928
DeSmith: .969

- Rinosaur


I think they even made a movie about it. "March of the Penguins". Too bad that doesn't get you the Stanley Cup.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 2:33 PM ET
I mean, the two of them were KILLING for a time.

In the month of March:

Jarry: .928
DeSmith: .969

- Rinosaur

Jarry had a negative 5v5 GSAA in March per NST. Those stats are deceiving.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 28 @ 2:34 PM ET
I mean, the two of them were KILLING for a time.

In the month of March:

Jarry: .928
DeSmith: .969

- Rinosaur


They also played the Devils and Sabres a combined 8 times that month...beat the Bruins 4-1 and lost to them 2-1 in that stretch though as well
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 2:35 PM ET
I mean, the two of them were KILLING for a time.

In the month of March:

Jarry: .928
DeSmith: .969

- Rinosaur

Additionally their GSAAs netted to 0. So this best goalie duo in the league was exactly average in terms of 5v5 GSAA in March.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

May 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
You like to hear that from Jake but honestly how much muscle can he put on that frame and not lose a step? He's not exactly fast now.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
Additionally their GSAAs netted to 0. So this best goalie duo in the league was exactly average in terms of 5v5 GSAA in March.
- Feds91Stammer


Yeah, I guess there was a false sense of security.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
He f'n chewed. One of the biggest goalie blunders in NHL OT history aside , he let in the 1st and 2nd goal of an elimination game on the 1st and 3rd shot, both savable and with the Pens up 3-2 let in 3 goals in 3 mins including 2 in 11 seconds. Oh yeah, and in game one 3 of the 4 he let in were soft AF and the Pens scored 3 in that one.
- MattStrat


I disagree with the second goal - I don't think he had a chance on that one. It was a result of poor play in front of the net. Every other goal in that game he should have stopped, though.

Jarry aside, one thing I noticed for much of that series is that the Isles' forwards, who are not known for a high power offense, often cut through our defense like it wasn't even there. On the other hand, it was rare for the Pens to be able get anyone near to Sorokin. Jarry is still the reason they lost that series but still, in games 2, 3, 4, and 6 the better team won (he cost them games 1 and 5 - he wins those two and the Pens win in 5). The Pens' defense is still soft and the offense lacks the physicality needed to break traps and play near the net.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
Kapanen clean-out interview was very weird. A lot of "kinda's" and pauses. "They kinda like welcomed me .... uhhh ... made me feel ... uhhh ... at home ... in a way".


- chimpira


Who's lying here? hahah


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
You like to hear that from Jake but honestly how much muscle can he put on that frame and not lose a step? He's not exactly fast now.
- Thorny87


I don't know. Jake is listed at 5'11 180, which is bigger than I thought. You have to wonder how much muscle he can put on and maintain, and maintaining it can almost be harder. Adding weight can slow you down, but I think he'd have to put on significantly more weight to make that happen.

Doing it naturally, at the high end he could put on 8 to 10 pounds of PURE muscle given all the resources he has at his disposal, and I mean not muscle and fat, over three or four months. Realistically, if he puts in a good amount of work I'd expect 4 to 6 pounds, which I don't think would have a significant affect on his speed.

If I were him I'd worry less about upper body and try to get stronger on his lower body. He'll get more power that way and be harder to knock off the puck.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 2:51 PM ET
I'm curious to see what they have in Maniscalco.
- Rinosaur


Lee looked good. I wish maniac played a filles season in the A instead of riding the taxi squad most of it.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

May 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
I don't know. Jake is listed at 5'11 180, which is bigger than I thought. You have to wonder how much muscle he can put on and maintain, and maintaining it can almost be harder. Adding weight can slow you down, but I think he'd have to put on significantly more weight to make that happen.

Doing it naturally, at the high end he could put on 8 to 10 pounds of PURE muscle given all the resources he has at his disposal, and I mean not muscle and fat, over three or four months. Realistically, if he puts in a good amount of work I'd expect 4 to 6 pounds, which I don't think would have a significant affect on his speed.

If I were him I'd worry less about upper body and try to get stronger on his lower body. He'll get more power that way and be harder to knock off the puck.

- Rinosaur


He needs to do a few leg days with Sid
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
From pens inside scoop-
I asked Jake what he's going to focus on this offseason: "Physically get stronger. I'm excited to get in the weight room. It’s going to be a good summer just because this left a sour taste in my mouth, and I know I got to be a lot better."

- wsldck


Kid needs steroids otherwise what else will he accomplish in 4 months of weight training.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 2:54 PM ET
He needs to do a few leg days with Sid
- Thorny87


That would be ideal. Sid is genetically built the way he is and that's a big advantage, but Jake could definitely follow his regimen.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 2:56 PM ET
Kid needs steroids otherwise what else will he accomplish in 4 months of weight training.
- 10inchTerror


With a strict diet and workout regiment he could put on four to six pounds, but he has worldclass EVERYTHING at his disposal, so if he really went all out I think he could put on 8-10 pounds, but that would be if he made this his whole life for the off-season.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 28 @ 3:00 PM ET
Yeah Jarry sucks but it’s also no coincidence that every goalie that goes to nyi turns into a Vézina nominee. Including career backups. That’s trotz system and his coaching. No matter who Pitt gets or what goalie is in place they will not score goals against the isles in the playoffs and you have to address that as well as just ‘Jarry (frank)ed us’. Yeah jarry sucked but playoff hockey is different. There’s clutching and grabbing and poop gets rough. Maybe Jake and Sid need a kassian type to run amok in front of the net to give them space. Kassian sucks so hopefully there is someone better but Pitt needs to adjust their strategy, the style of personnel they employ, or something different or they will keep losing to teams like the islanders. It’s not all on Jarry, he’s just a large part of the problem.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 3:02 PM ET
With a strict diet and workout regiment he could put on four to six pounds, but he has worldclass EVERYTHING at his disposal, so if he really went all out I think he could put on 8-10 pounds, but that would be if he made this his whole life for the off-season.
- Rinosaur

Putting on 10 pounds wouldn’t do a damn thing for him.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
Putting on 10 pounds wouldn’t do a damn thing for him.
- Feds91Stammer


I'm just saying that's what's realistic on the high-end if done naturally. Putting on four to six pounds of lean muscle is considered a lot over the course of a few months.

Ten pounds may not seem like a lot, but if a bulk of it was on the lower body, it could have a significant impact on his power.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
I'm just saying that's what's realistic on the high-end if done naturally. Putting on four to six pounds of lean muscle is considered a lot over the course of a few months.

Ten pounds may not seem like a lot, but if a bulk of it was on the lower body, it could have a significant impact on his power.

- Rinosaur

He’s not putting on 10 pounds of primarily leg strength in 4 months.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 3:15 PM ET
He’s not putting on 10 pounds of primarily leg strength in 4 months.
- Feds91Stammer


Well, it's easier to bulk on the lower body than upper, but I agree with you. I said it would be extreme and he'd have to live the lifestyle every single day of the off-season.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Well, it's easier to bulk on the lower body than upper, but I agree with you. I said it would be extreme and he'd have to live the lifestyle every single day of the off-season.
- Rinosaur

Based on his genetics and assuming he’s worked out for his entire adult life he could probably naturally put on 8-10 pounds of muscle total in a year. That’s in the context of body building so it may be even more difficult in terms of functional strength for sport.

Either way it won’t change the way he plays.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
Based on his genetics and assuming he’s worked out for his entire adult life he could probably naturally put on 8-10 pounds of muscle total in a year. That’s in the context of body building so it may be even more difficult in terms of functional strength for sport.

Either way it won’t change the way he plays.

- Feds91Stammer


Like I said, four to six is considered a lot over the course of a few months. For most people who work full time jobs, the idea of putting on eight to ten pounds in less than a year is very difficult. When you can devote 24/7 to that life and workout regimen with the best trainers, nutritionists and facilities around? It's still VERY hard, but it's more possible to do over half of a year.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 3:24 PM ET
Like I said, four to six is considered a lot over the course of a few months. For most people who work full time jobs, the idea of putting on eight to ten pounds in less than a year is very difficult. When you can devote 24/7 to that life and workout regimen with the best trainers, nutritionists and facilities around? It's still VERY hard, but it's more possible to do over half of a year.
- Rinosaur

You aren’t doing it in 4 months without gear. He could easily do it if he mixes in trenboloney sandwiches to his diet.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 28 @ 3:28 PM ET
You aren’t doing it in 4 months without gear. He could easily do it if he mixes in trenboloney sandwiches to his diet.
- Feds91Stammer


LOL
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
Who's lying here? hahah



- MattStrat

I just think Kapanen is a real awkward interview. Maybe part of why the Toronto media didn't like him same as Phil.
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