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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 28 @ 3:42 PM ET
Myers is the better Dman, pure and simple, Reuby is correct as usual.
- Nuckerwhatever


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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 28 @ 3:54 PM ET
no idea. I'd like to think he stays because with a flat cap the space for a huge pay day might not be there.
- BINGO!


So no team friendly deal, the fans here think everyone should sign team friendlies, but Elias and Hughes should get 10 million.

Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 28 @ 4:00 PM ET
He hasn't - they're the same size. Petey taller. Aho gained 3 lbs since entering the league
- Brooks_Light


His upper body looks thicker to me.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Valeri Nuchskin is also better than Connor McDavid according to analytics.
- manvanfan


I am not a big fan of analytics but do check up on some of them. I usually try find out how info is gathered and who is putting in that inf, which determines the outcome.
Like +/- all analytics stats have some good and some bad.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
So no team friendly deal, the fans here think everyone should sign team friendlies, but Elias and Hughes should get 10 million.
- Reubenkincade



it's okay to hope for one but you probably shouldn't expect one.

I think he makes it to UFA status then re-signs.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
Valeri Nuchskin is also better than Connor McDavid according to analytics.
- manvanfan


hmm no
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
it's okay to hope for one but you probably shouldn't expect one.

I think he makes it to UFA status then re-signs.

- BINGO!


Here in Canuckland everyone but Pouty and Hughes take a teamfriendly. Lol.

The fans get what they deserve.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 28 @ 4:18 PM ET
I am not a big fan of analytics but do check up on some of them. I usually try find out how info is gathered and who is putting in that inf, which determines the outcome.
Like +/- all analytics stats have some good and some bad.

- Reubenkincade


Canes guy Tulsky says public analytics are good, but there's only so much they can do.

Calls it the equivalent of flipping a light on in a dark room for a second and capturing a snapshot of where everything is at that exact moment. Publicly available info is like flipping that switch 300 times per game. What he's trying to do is add more context by flipping the light on 3000 times per game instead.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 28 @ 4:24 PM ET
Canes guy Tulsky says public analytics are good, but there's only so much they can do.

Calls it the equivalent of flipping a light on in a dark room for a second and capturing a snapshot of where everything is at that exact moment. Publicly available info is like flipping that switch 300 times per game. What he's trying to do is add more context by flipping the light on 3000 times per game instead.

- BINGO!


Not sure why Canes guy Tulsky would only want to capture 50 minutes of a 60 minute game if I am reading that right.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 4:27 PM ET
no idea. I'd like to think he stays because with a flat cap the space for a huge pay day might not be there.
- BINGO!

Krak krak krak mr.ducksworth
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

May 28 @ 4:28 PM ET
I'm feeling optimistic today....despite the ack of changes....

Demko = he is a clear #1 and was only getting better pre-covid
EP = gone for 1/2 the year
Pearson = he will bounce back to his 20g and 20 assist
Hodg = he's 4th in his draft for points already, he will only be better
Pod = Helps the bottom 6 next year, moves into top 6 year after
Schmidt = bounce back I think
BB - took a step, hope that continues
Rathbone = showed he can be top 6 IMO

Add a couple pieces, let some dead weight go with buyouts.

I think they are in the mix next year for playoffs.
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Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 28 @ 4:33 PM ET
Not sure why Canes guy Tulsky would only want to capture 50 minutes of a 60 minute game if I am reading that right.
- Reubenkincade



Point is that analytics are getting better but what you have that's publicly available is dong a great job of telling you what's already happened but not how or why, which is what they're trying to do.

Like two guys take wrist shots from the same place on the ice against the same goalie, one scores, one doesn't. Is the goal scorer just more lucky or is he actually better at shooting? That's the stuff they're trying to put numbers to.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 28 @ 4:37 PM ET
I am not a big fan of analytics but do check up on some of them. I usually try find out how info is gathered and who is putting in that inf, which determines the outcome.
Like +/- all analytics stats have some good and some bad.

- Reubenkincade

Like anything else needs a lot of context. Plus the eye test.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 28 @ 4:43 PM ET


Point is that analytics are getting better but what you have that's publicly available is dong a great job of telling you what's already happened but not how or why, which is what they're trying to do.

Like two guys take wrist shots from the same place on the ice against the same goalie, one scores, one doesn't. Is the goal scorer just more lucky or is he actually better at shooting? That's the stuff they're trying to put numbers to.

- BINGO!

I have watched many games with carolina commentators and its remarkable how they use analytics compared to almost every other station.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
Like anything else needs a lot of context. Plus the eye test.
- manvanfan

Exactly
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
People are forgetting that Benning himself was a NHL dman. Iโ€™ll trust his view on how to build a defense over anyoneโ€™s on this site.
- Nucker101


K this one made me spit my cervasa
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 28 @ 5:15 PM ET
Are you saying Schmidt plays well on the right side.
Schmidt struggled severely on the right side keeping the puck in at the blueline and setting up in the defensive zone.

- Reubenkincade


I agree, he was supposed to be this big upgrade in the top 4 , man I had to look up who that #88 plug was on d, thought it had to be one of the up and comers.
I have a lot of fun with my Canuck Buddies discussing this, fishing will be a lot of fun this season.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 28 @ 5:19 PM ET
Jeff Skinner has been in the NHL 11 seasons and never seen the playoffs.

That sucks.

- manvanfan


Hope Benning gets him included in the Reinhardt deal so he can fulfill his dream.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 28 @ 5:20 PM ET
back to BPA lol

Only thing correct is P.
If B were true no team would screw up. Yet no teams have the same lists so how can this be? The term is bs so a new one is needed.

PISSPICK
Prospect Is Supposedly Superior PICK
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 28 @ 5:24 PM ET
back to BPA lol

Only thing correct is P.
If B were true no team would screw up. Yet no teams have the same lists so how can this be? The term is bs so a new one is needed.

PISSPICK
Prospect Is Supposedly Superior PICK

- Nighthawk


I think I prefer the term Pisspick instead.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
So no team friendly deal, the fans here think everyone should sign team friendlies, but Elias and Hughes should get 10 million.
- Reubenkincade

No one has said that, not a single person

Hamilton is a ufa, the top ufa. Kraken take a big swipe at him, that's my prediction.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2...ucks-2021-year-in-review/

This article only further says play the kids & let them learn. Waiver wire retreads are a waste of a roster spot when a prospect could get valuable experience. A coach would have to coach then & not just toss out lines & D pairings. Fire the associate coaches & hire coaches who can teach & develop. Til a team is a contender there is no reason to pretend.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
I think I prefer the term Pisspick instead.
- K-man25

We are on to something ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
back to BPA lol

Only thing correct is P.
If B were true no team would screw up. Yet no teams have the same lists so how can this be? The term is bs so a new one is needed.

PISSPICK
Prospect Is Supposedly Superior PICK

- Nighthawk

Okay, I'll take a swing at trying to explain it to you.

Vancouver has a ranked list of the top 100 players available to draft.

When the pick comes to them, the strategy of BPA means that they pick the highest ranked player OFF THEIR OWN LIST. It means that if the players they have ranked at 5 and 9 are available, they should take the player they ranked at 5.

What the needs based strategy would say is that if player 5 is available but a forward and player ranked 9 is a D, they should pick the 9 guy and leave 5 on the board... If they feel they need D.

Saying that you want the BPA strategy used does not mean that there is agreement as to who the best player is.

Trust the team's scouts and go off their list. If you (the team) feels that D is so important they should have ranked him higher.

Lastly, as you get further in the draft, you can move to needs based. Picking the 105th ranked guy over the 99th ranked guy based on need is acceptable. Why? As the rankings get lower, there's less differentiation between the picks meaning it's more of a crap shoot.

So to conclude, BPA is actually just saying to trust the team's scouting process. It's not telling what your list is.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
I agree, he was supposed to be this big upgrade in the top 4 , man I had to look up who that #88 plug was on d, thought it had to be one of the up and comers.
I have a lot of fun with my Canuck Buddies discussing this, fishing will be a lot of fun this season.

- K-man25


Other than him being an American, I don't know what the fans like about him.
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