I think the point made about taking Skinner with Eichel has some merit. Remember Michael, it's very important that you factor in that Kevyn Adams is a moron when you look at the Eichel deals presented. I'd say a 2022 first, Colin White, whichever one of L. Brown/Jarventie/Grieg/Thomson Buffalo wants, and Joey D'Accord for Eichel and Skinner (30% retained).

That said I also like the idea of Giroux - he grew up in Ottawa (which Ottawa has always seemed to love - see Boro, Pageau, Gudbranson - if only we traded for MacKenzie Weegar last season!). Giroux only has one year left on his contract, and is overpaid for his age. I'd give Logan Brown or Colin White (whichever Philadelphia wanted), Angus Crookshank, and a fourth for one year of him.
- Bartacus

Pass on Giroux. 33 and already showing signs of serious regression.

Some pretty bizarre rankings here from the CSB Final Rankings for the coming NHL 2021 Draft...
http://www.nhl.com/ice/dr...&sort=finalRank&year=2021

I'm not even sure which of the following is the most bizarre, but highlights include:
- McTavish at #2
- Johnson at #3
- Beniers at #6
- Lucius at #12
- Clarke at #7
- Lysell at #9 (European)

My takeaway is that the top-12 is really a bit of a toss-up. With the #10 pick, at least two or three of McTavish, Lysell, Wallstedt, Johnson, or Lucius should still be on the board.
- khawk

THN just came out with their issue too.

Power 1st.
Edvinsson 2
Clarke 7th
Johnson 8th
Mctavish 9
Lucius 10

THN just came out with their issue too.
Power 1st.
Edvinsson 2
Clarke 7th
Johnson 8th
Mctavish 9
Lucius 10
- david22

The 'consensus' top picks seem to be Power, Beniers, and Guenther, with Hughes unlikely to make it past the Devils' pick (currently 4th). The next group is probably Eklund, Clarke, Johnson, and Edvinsson, with the latter 2 presenting as the biggest wild cards in terms of risk/reward. Regardless, those players will most likely be off the board by the time Ottawa picks, so it will likely be some combination of Lucius, McTavish, Wallstedt, Lysell, or Sillinger available to them.

On another discussion we had here not too long ago, THN predicted Tierny is taken by Seattle.
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The goalies taken were:
Allen
Hill
Holtby
Khudobin

On another discussion we had here not too long ago, THN predicted Tierny is taken by Seattle.
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The goalies taken were:
Allen
Hill
Holtby
Khudobin
- david22

It interesting that almost every mock draft/article has no Ottawa goalie being taken by Seattle, but on these comment boards, people seem quite confident a goalie is going.

Tierny and Watson seem to be the most popular guys to be taken.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

It interesting that almost every mock draft/article has no Ottawa goalie being taken by Seattle, but on these comment boards, people seem quite confident a goalie is going.
Tierny and Watson seem to be the most popular guys to be taken.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I agree that Tierney/Watson are the most likely players to be taken... provided the Senators protect Gustavsson. Given the other more NHL-ready goaltenders that will be available to Seattle, there's virtually no chance they go after the likes of Murray, Forbserg, or Daccord. However, there are very few other team scenarios where picking a promising young AHL goaltender would be among the Kraken's higher value options, so I think the Senators would be wise to guard against that possibility.

Kadri - HARD no!

Giroux - Only if this was 2015

Eichel - Way too expensive

Monahan - Only if the price is right. Some package including Logan Brown and who knows what else. Someone mentioned the rights to Abramov. Sure throw him in. Add some picks, maybe another mid tier prospect.

You missed the best one, however....

RYAN NUGENT HOPKINS! Available for "free" via free agency. He's played his whole career on a rebuilding Oilers team. Is he interested in signing with a team like Ottawa? Probably not

Conclusion - Monahan is the only name on this list worth realistically kicking tires on. However, look what happened on the ice this year when we "insulated" our younger players with vets... we SUCKED! Once we moved most of the trash out at the deadline, and were icing only our actual team, BOOM! We magically started winning games frequently. Trusting all the guys you've already brought in.... what a novel idea. I don't think we need to bring in anyone. Maybe a top 4 D on a short term contract... MAYBE.

Additional thoughts - I think it's funny that the article begins with "MELNYK thinks we need a vet, #1 center." Last time I checked, he hired Pierre Dorion to make and manage roster decisions like that. This just furthers the argument disgruntled Sens fans present when they say Dorion is doing his job with handcuffs on. Most owners don't go public with what they think about the roster make up. They let the GM do his job.

Hey, Melnyk! You can fire Dorion and put what you were spending on his salary in your stingy pocket! You're already doing his job for him!

I'm so fricking sick of this goof.

I agree that Tierney/Watson are the most likely players to be taken... provided the Senators protect Gustavsson. Given the other more NHL-ready goaltenders that will be available to Seattle, there's virtually no chance they go after the likes of Murray, Forbserg, or Daccord. However, there are very few other team scenarios where picking a promising young AHL goaltender would be among the Kraken's higher value options, so I think the Senators would be wise to guard against that possibility.
- khawk

It is a market. Las Vegas reset the model. They took players in the draft and quickly flipped them to other teams. We know there are a bunch of teams out there that are really in tough because of the cap. The Forsberg signing in the last week of the season did not make a lot of sense to me. Unless there are other teams looking for a credible back up at near minimum salary. I could see Forsberg being a very shrewd Seattle pick.

It is a market. Las Vegas reset the model. They took players in the draft and quickly flipped them to other teams. We know there are a bunch of teams out there that are really in tough because of the cap. The Forsberg signing in the last week of the season did not make a lot of sense to me. Unless there are other teams looking for a credible back up at near minimum salary. I could see Forsberg being a very shrewd Seattle pick.
- spatso

Right, but if you're citing Vegas as an example, they specifically picked Malcolm Subban as an AHL goaltender from Boston, who was in pretty much the exact same situation that Gustavsson is in right now. So it's not like there isn't a precedent for this within the context of recent NHL expansion drafts.

As for Forsberg, I see his signing as being directly related to the decision to let Hogberg go, so that there was sufficient depth in the system for next season. If Seattle wants to pick him instead of a younger G, or one of the veteran F, then all the better.

I actually find myself feeling sorry for Leaf fans this evening. Brutal way to lose, letting Montreal come back from being down 3 games to 1. Listening to Leaf post game. Folks are highly emotional.

I actually find myself feeling sorry for Leaf fans this evening. Brutal way to lose, letting Montreal come back from being down 3 games to 1. Listening to Leaf post game. Folks are highly emotional.
- spatso

just more proof depth and balance is very important, i hope Dorion saw the weaknesses of the oilers and leafs and stay clear of doing that

I actually find myself feeling sorry for Leaf fans this evening. Brutal way to lose, letting Montreal come back from being down 3 games to 1. Listening to Leaf post game. Folks are highly emotional.
- spatso

Whatever. I might feel something like that if there wasn't such an obnoxious element to their fanbase, or if the Toronto-centric media weren't such unapologetic fanboys. But given that those things have been true for literally decades, it's hard to muster up anything other than a big ol' middle finger right now. It also doesn't help that I completely disagree with their one-dimensional (and horribly flawed) approach to team building. Maybe if they actually show the balls to do something like make the kind of major trade they should have made a couple of years ago, I'll feel a bit more sympathy. Or perhaps at least consider a new team policy that douchebag moustaches can only be grown in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

I wouldn't mind trying to pick up Seth Jones in free agency this summer

I actually find myself feeling sorry for Leaf fans this evening. Brutal way to lose, letting Montreal come back from being down 3 games to 1. Listening to Leaf post game. Folks are highly emotional.
- spatso

there isn't a fan base in the league that deserves that more than them....for every one good fan they have, there are 10 obnoxious dbags who i hope cried themselves to sleep last night.

I wouldn't mind trying to pick up Seth Jones in free agency this summer
- Maverick1818

Jones has been pretty steadily declining for a couple of years now....he plays big minutes, but his underlying numbers are on par with Zaitsev. considering what it would cost in assets to get him, and what a new contract would look like (if he'd even re-sign here) i'd steer clear of him.

Given the state of Ottawa Sens hockey the last few seasons I'm not gonna throw stones at the ol'Leaf house this morning. The politest thing to say is that it simply wasn't a surprise at all.

I can't wait for Colin White to turn into what I know he will be here or somewhere else so every one can eat a massive crow sandwich especially Team 1200 hosts who are ready to run him out of town.

He's a very good hockey player.
Love how he and his contract are considered an albatross.....wrong take.

Given the state of Ottawa Sens hockey the last few seasons I'm not gonna throw stones at the ol'Leaf house this morning. The politest thing to say is that it simply wasn't a surprise at all.

I can't wait for Colin White to turn into what I know he will be here or somewhere else so every one can eat a massive crow sandwich especially Team 1200 hosts who are ready to run him out of town.

He's a very good hockey player.
Love how he and his contract are considered an albatross.....wrong take.
- Octavarium

I'm curious on your Colin White take. What is he turning into? Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested in your take.

Jones has been pretty steadily declining for a couple of years now....he plays big minutes, but his underlying numbers are on par with Zaitsev. considering what it would cost in assets to get him, and what a new contract would look like (if he'd even re-sign here) i'd steer clear of him.
- sensarmy_11

I think you're being a little hard on Seth Jones here. He can be a very effective d-man with the right puck moving d-man. Seems quite possible a Chabot-Jones pairing could be very effective. We all know right hand shots are slim in the system. Depending on the cost, it is worth investigating as an option.

I'm curious on your Colin White take. What is he turning into? Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested in your take.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Patrice Bergeron

- Pierre "Condom Head" McGuire

Jones has been pretty steadily declining for a couple of years now....he plays big minutes, but his underlying numbers are on par with Zaitsev. considering what it would cost in assets to get him, and what a new contract would look like (if he'd even re-sign here) i'd steer clear of him.
- sensarmy_11

Exactly the type of young player who could use a "Fresh Start"

Chabot- Jones could be a powerhouse pair

He's heading to free agency, we wouldn't have to give up anything really, Just a contract which we not only have cap room for but would likely be paying someone else anyways.

Exactly the type of young player who could use a "Fresh Start"
Chabot- Jones could be a powerhouse pair
He's heading to free agency, we wouldn't have to give up anything really, Just a contract which we not only have cap room for but would likely be paying someone else anyways.
- Maverick1818

No, he's not.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bluejackets

Jones said that he wouldn't sign an extension with Columbus, but he still has the final RFA year under contract for next season. That said, I agree that Jones may have had a bad year, but he has a whole lot left in the tank. It's pretty hard to judge anything from within the tire-fire that the Blue Jackets have become. And while that kind of trade would have to involve quality assets including a 1st round pick, it's also the kind of trade that changes the look of your team. Case in point, Sanderson-Jones would have the potential to be the team's best shut-down pairing since Chara-Phillips.

To Columbus
F Colin White
D Lassi Thomson
D Tyler Kleven
F Logan Brown OR D Nikita Zaitsev
2021 10th overall pick

To Ottawa
F Max Domi
D Seth Jones (with 8 x8 extension*)
2021 pick

Fair deal?

2022-2023 (potentially)

Thomas Chabot - Seth Jones
Erik Brannstrom - Artem Zub
Jake Sanderson - Jacob Bernard Docker

Patrice Bergeron

- Pierre "Condom Head" McGuire
- AdamFrench

If I had to compare him - Penguins Jordan Staal. Smart versatile second\third line center/winger can play in all situations. People poo poo about the contract. So...year one he's expected to dominate on a team that's tanking. Year one AND two he gets a revolving door of linemates and throughout his tenure he gets a coach who hates him and fans who think it was an overpay.

If I had to compare him - Penguins Jordan Staal. Smart versatile second\third line center/winger can play in all situations. People poo poo about the contract. So...year one he's expected to dominate on a team that's tanking. Year one AND two he gets a revolving door of linemates and throughout his tenure he gets a coach who hates him and fans who think it was an overpay.
- Octavarium

I tend to agree about the contract... nobody says boo about Tierney making $3.5M, but White basically went from starting the year on the bench, to both outscoring and outplaying Tierney on a nightly basis by the end of the year. He had some injury issues last year, and you can argue he should have impressed more out of training camp this year, but we're also talking about the Galchenyuk/Stepan/Paquette era among forwards, plus them trying to make room for the likes of Norris, Batherson, and Stutzle. For me, he's a guy who can play up and down the lineup at C/W, and should probably be getting more two-way grooming and SH time.