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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 30 @ 7:10 PM ET
You can't possibly be this thick.
- Load Management


Is it you doing your best NuckUp impersonation?

Math is old. Applying math to modern things is antiquated or old fashioned? Seems pretty ignorant if you’re being serious 😵‍💫
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 7:13 PM ET
Don't know why you would limit yourself to one type of thinking pr another, definitely seems antiquated to do so.
- neem55

Seth Jones was just reduced to "above average" because of analytics, whereas Tanev is glorified at the top dman in the NHL.

It's not that analytics don't offer some value, it's just that they're highly overvalued.

Once again, Yogi Berra:

"Statistics are like lampposts. They're to be used for support not illumination."

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
Cernak pulled...

Traded to the Canucks

Cernak/Johnson(retain 1.5m)
Juolevi/Lind/3rd
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
NOpe, never heard of him - any good?

Have you seen any USDT games this year? I was wondering about two Dmen, Hreschuk and Behrens? Possible 2nd rounders?

- Brooks_Light


I seen Hreschuk once, he looked decent. Not sure he is a 2nd rounder though. I am liking a lot of defensemen in this draft. Hopefully Benning gets us a few this draft.

I hadn't heard of Primeau either but was looking at players who would be going back into draft on June 1st and I seen him, a 6'5 200 lb centre. Always checking for defensemen and centres.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 30 @ 7:20 PM ET
Is it you doing your best NuckUp impersonation?

Math is old. Applying math to modern things is antiquated or old fashioned? Seems pretty ignorant if you’re being serious 😵‍💫

- NewYorkNuck

I'm confused. Am I NuckUp or Lordy?

"Math explains something that is already there."

Pretty obvious statement. Anyhow, you're probably running out of posters to insult me with. I'm gonna leave this discussion now.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 7:21 PM ET
Do you know anything about Mason Primeau? He is currently a Vegas unsigned selection, eligible to be back in the draft this year.
- Reubenkincade

His dad is Wayne. I grabbed those advanced stats from ancestry.com
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 30 @ 7:21 PM ET
Seth Jones was just reduced to "above average" because of analytics, whereas Tanev is glorified at the top dman in the NHL.

It's not that analytics don't offer some value, it's just that they're highly overvalued.

Once again, Yogi Berra:

"Statistics are like lampposts. They're to be used for support not illumination."

- golfingsince


I am a big fan of Tanev, but Jones is twice the defenseman that Tanev is.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 30 @ 7:23 PM ET
Cernak pulled...

Traded to the Canucks

Cernak/Johnson(retain 1.5m)
Juolevi/Lind/3rd

- Nighthawk

So add Cernak and trade down (even though it’s not you that says it every year )
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 7:23 PM ET
I am a big fan of Tanev, but Jones is twice the defenseman that Tanev is.
- Reubenkincade

I'd say more than that but yes he's much, much better.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 30 @ 7:23 PM ET
His dad is Wayne. I grabbed those advanced stats from ancestry.com
- golfingsince


Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 30 @ 7:25 PM ET
His dad is Wayne. I grabbed those advanced stats from ancestry.com
- golfingsince

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 30 @ 7:26 PM ET
I'd say more than that but yes he's much, much better.
- golfingsince


At worst, Jones is at the low end of the top 10 defensemen in the league.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 30 @ 7:27 PM ET
At worst, Jones is at the low end of the top 10 defensemen in the league.
- Reubenkincade

How many Columbus games have you watched this year ?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 7:28 PM ET

- Reubenkincade



I love this place. Only here can you be called stupid for putting more faith in what your eyes see than what a sheet of paper tells you.

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

May 30 @ 7:29 PM ET
I seen Hreschuk once, he looked decent. Not sure he is a 2nd rounder though. I am liking a lot of defensemen in this draft. Hopefully Benning gets us a few this draft.

I hadn't heard of Primeau either but was looking at players who would be going back into draft on June 1st and I seen him, a 6'5 200 lb centre. Always checking for defensemen and centres.

- Reubenkincade


What D are you liking?

I'm interested to see if Truscott gets a bigger role next year in Michigan now that York is promoted.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 7:30 PM ET
How many Columbus games have you watched this year ?
- CanuckDon

Does it have to be this year? I've only caught a few but it's hard to believe he's washed up at the ripe ole age of 26.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 30 @ 7:31 PM ET
Cernak pulled...

Traded to the Canucks

Cernak/Johnson(retain 1.5m)
Juolevi/Lind/3rd

- Nighthawk


Why do you keep bringing up cernak. He was literally just signed for 3 years at an extremely team friendly deal. We aren't trading for him and bolts aren't trading him. I don't get the cernak obsession in here.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 30 @ 7:32 PM ET
How many Columbus games have you watched this year ?
- CanuckDon


About 5. How about you?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 7:33 PM ET
Why do you keep bringing up cernak. He was literally just signed for 3 years at an extremely team friendly deal. We aren't trading for him and bolts aren't trading him. I don't get the cernak obsession in here.
- Codes1087



That makes two of us.

Yeah, he's a good Dman. No, he isn't going to transform our D corps.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 30 @ 7:37 PM ET
So add Cernak and trade down (even though it’s not you that says it every year )
- CanuckDon

PISSPICK if Cernak is gotten
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 30 @ 7:37 PM ET
What D are you liking?

I'm interested to see if Truscott gets a bigger role next year in Michigan now that York is promoted.

- Brooks_Light


Minivan created a forum for the 2021 list. He created a nice list of all positions, I added a few names to that list, but didn't have to add much because he had a good list of players that I also agreed with him on.

This guy is one of my candidates for the 2nd round.

https://www.eliteprospect.../player/507089/evan-nause
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 30 @ 7:38 PM ET
Math simply explains something that is already there and is much older than Hockey. Times may change, but Mathematicians have been selling their snake oil for thousands of years. So I suggest your line of thinking is way more antiquated than mine.
- Load Management

now that was a great post.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 30 @ 7:38 PM ET


I love this place. Only here can you be called stupid for putting more faith in what your eyes see than what a sheet of paper tells you.

- golfingsince

And to think all those ticket buyers haven’t caught on 😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 30 @ 7:40 PM ET
Why do you keep bringing up cernak. He was literally just signed for 3 years at an extremely team friendly deal. We aren't trading for him and bolts aren't trading him. I don't get the cernak obsession in here.
- Codes1087

Ok which RHD is on your obsession list?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 30 @ 7:41 PM ET
His dad is Wayne. I grabbed those advanced stats from ancestry.com
- golfingsince

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