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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 1 @ 9:25 AM ET
Well I thought it was pretty exciting.

I must say though, I expected both teams to hate each other more.

We didn't see alot of fights or things getting out of hand.

I get both teams were trying to be disciplined but..... usually there's more.... I don't know.... passion?

I expect something different vs Winnipeg.

- Scabeh

Of course you did, you werent expecting to win.....but I mean I wasnt expecting the leafs to win either.
But after watching other series, this one had no real intensity and speed.
Ya I would expect something different from the peg, they dont fold like the leafs do.

The leafs PP and lack of urgency/intensity lost the series.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:25 AM ET
You might want to take a break here, the Habs suck and the Leafs lost to them....you win....let us revel in our misery alone
- Archaic


If anything, I feel like I am showing incredibly restraint.


But fair enough, there's too many of you guys I appreciate to just pile it on too much.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 1 @ 9:25 AM ET
Price played great.
But he didnt win you the series, he made some great saves, but hes not the reason you won (he's part of it of course)
But the leafs only showing up to play for a couple of minutes in game 5, 6 and 7 are the reasons the habs won.

For all the hype of a montreal vs leafs playoff series, outside of the leafs choking, it was very boring and slow hockey.

- Fakepartofme


THIS

Also, most boring game 7 ever? ZERO intensity. I flipped over and watched Boston-NYI during commercials... completely different. Intense. When guys threw body checks they ran guys through the boards. Our guys dont even know how to do that. It’s almost like our guys throw checks and try to do it gently...
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 1 @ 9:25 AM ET
Chill.
you get too riled up over trolls and max.
Neither are going away and will only get worse now that it is confirmed that the leafs are the biggest chokers in sports. ...well besides the NFL jets apparently.
Dunno, the NFL sucks so I dont watch it.

- Fakepartofme


That's the beauty of me being in control of my login. I'll decide. 🤣

Seriously the poop he spews in here is absurd. We are 4 pages removed from him boasting about how he knew Dubas and Keefe were poor choices from the start because of a picture of them being happy about winning a championship.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
I dont.

but I am all out of ideas. up 3-1 and lose

only other thing is nobody can deal with the immense pressure thats on the Leafs players to ...do something. cant hide from it today.

- senstroll


Times like these, I find a good book can be comforting...

Interloper
Seattle Kraken
Location: NotWelcomeHere, NE
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
trade Auston

need more players like ........

- senstroll


Nowhere was that said, great post.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 1 @ 9:26 AM ET
Curses can be broken.

Roy and Tremblay "made up" before game 5 of the series.

Some are saying the "Casseau's curse" is now broken.

- Scabeh

I thought Keon’s reappearance would have had an anti curse affect. Maybe it’s Lanny McDonald that the Leafs need to bring back to combat the curse.
MynameisJeff
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2021

Jun 1 @ 9:27 AM ET
Hyman - JT - Marner
?? - ?? - ??
Engvall - ?? - Mikheyev
Robertson - ?? - ??

Rielly - ??
Sandin - ??
?? - Liljegren

Campbell (1A - 50% of starts)
??? (1B - 50% of starts)
Woll (backup for every game)

I'd like to see all of Nylander, Matthews, Brodie, Holl traded away.
dont resign Jumbo Joe, Simmonds

Kerfoot, Muzzin, Galchenyuk, Spezza maybes - but rather see them all go / traded away as well.

6new FW, 3new Dmen, and a 1A goalie.
some come in via trades, others in FA.

- MaximusAurelius


How, after this series you can possibly say you want to keep Marner over Matthews is beyond me.

Matthews has proven year after year he can play in the playoffs. He was completely neutered this year by Marner's absolutely rookie league play.

You trade Matthews away and how does your centre depth look in 2 or 3 years when JT is on the decline?

Nylander and Brodie were two of the better players this series. Nylander was probably our best forward.

You are always wrong, so I'm less surprised you posted this than I am that the Leafs lost.

Go away.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 1 @ 9:27 AM ET
THIS

Also, most boring game 7 ever? ZERO intensity. I flipped over and watched Boston-NYI during commercials... completely different. Intense. When guys threw body checks they ran guys through the boards. Our guys dont even know how to do that. It’s almost like our guys throw checks and try to do it gently...

- Hockey_Reverend


It was like even Simmonds actually learned from the rest of these guys to hit the brakes because you don't want to bump into someone.

(frank) that, we need some players who look at the opposition like potential bugs on their windshields come playoff time. 🤦🏻‍♂️
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 1 @ 9:28 AM ET
Nowhere was that said, great post.
- Interloper


oh thats coming im sure


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:29 AM ET
I assume you are kidding but it is laughable that Habs fans think their team is so good. You guys realize that beating the Leafs is much more a comment on the lack of heart on the Leafs, than it is on how great your team is.
- Interloper


I think you make an important point. Habs did not beat the Leafs on skill. They won because of patience and tenacity.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 1 @ 9:30 AM ET
I wish I cared enough to find one of the articles explaining why he forced the Boston issue, because it made sense. It was about him not wanting to go anywhere as a rental, he knew he had no option to resign in Toronto. He had played for 3 teams in a year, wanted to go somewhere he could work out a longterm deal and Boston fit the bill on every level.

Perhaps it's hogwash, but full disclosure... Who (frank)ing cares.

Are we really going to sit here and act like Taylor Hall is the one thing that is the difference between Cup and the poop we sat through the last week? This team is the definition of broken from the core out and a career loser like Hall is not the difference between that mess and hoisting a cup.

- joel878

I didnt imply that if we had hall, the results would be different.
Actually, I will point out that I was completely wrong. Prior to TDL, i wasnt interested in going after hall, thought the cost outweighed the benefit.
Turns out, the cost was low and the benefit has been great.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:30 AM ET
I thought Keon’s reappearance would have had an anti curse affect. Maybe it’s Lanny McDonald that the Leafs need to bring back to combat the curse.
- Woderwick

Perhaps a smudging ceremony to cleanse the atrocities that occured at Maple Leaf Gardens
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 1 @ 9:30 AM ET
Price was good, but I don't feel like he stole the series. Last night was the perfect example of this. I don't think he really had to work that hard. Montreal pushed the Leafs players to the outside, and they kept trying to make the cute "perfect" play, which wasn't there to make.
- leafsfann

Before the last goal last night, Price had a .952 save percentage since the Habs went down 3 games to 1. Something sure happened. Game 6 Toronto’s goals were scored off of weird deflections. Last night, I had the same feeling. Leafs were going to have to bounce the puck off of someone or something to score. If Price could see it under normal conditions, he was stopping it.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 1 @ 9:31 AM ET
How, after this series you can possibly say you want to keep Marner over Matthews is beyond me.

Matthews has proven year after year he can play in the playoffs. He was completely neutered this year by Marner's absolutely rookie league play.

You trade Matthews away and how does your centre depth look in 2 or 3 years when JT is on the decline?

Nylander and Brodie were two of the better players this series. Nylander was probably our best forward.

You are always wrong, so I'm less surprised you posted this than I am that the Leafs lost.

Go away.

- MynameisJeff


He said Brodie was a mistake from the second they signed him, and somehow decided it was a good idea to continue to push that agenda the better he played.

With that in mind I'm not surprised at all Brodie turned out to be probably our best defenceman, Max being wrong is the only thing he can be right about, ever.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:31 AM ET
It should not go unnoticed that Jason Spezza played some of his best hockey over the past five years.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
talent is there on paper, the problem is confidence, urgency and playing as a team when needed.
- Symba007

They looked like a completely different team then the regular season. They looked like the Colorado avalanche of the playoffs in the regular season.

The leaf playoff team looked like the Buffalo Sabres regular season.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:32 AM ET
It should not go unnoticed that Jason Spezza played some of his best hockey over the past five years.
- spatso

True

But, he will be another year older next year

He won’t repeat his stats from this year
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 1 @ 9:34 AM ET
Trade Marner for Jones or Eichel?
Consider trading Rielly.

Get rid of soft middle guys like Engvall, Soup man, etc Engvall is 6-5 and decides to throw a hit once every 4 games. And we wonder why we lack intensity?

Play Sandin the WHOLE SEASON and dont throw him in all of a sudden in the playoffs and expect him to carry our PP... lol

Forget washed up slow vets. Sign foot soldiers that just like to forcheck and block shots. Like Uncle Leo, Martin, etc.

Fire Keefe and hire a defense first coach who is not afraid to hold the players accountable. Teach them how to play playoff style hockey and defense.

Do we resign Freddy? Will he resign for less then expected? He might, and I would sign him if so. If he wants a raise, forget it. Move on.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:34 AM ET
If anything, I feel like I am showing incredibly restraint.


But fair enough, there's too many of you guys I appreciate to just pile it on too much.

- Scabeh


Most people on here arent like that. I know if the roles were reversed I wouldnt be posting in the Habs thread in less it was words of encouragement, but thats just me.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jun 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
Things came VERY close to be completely different though, Matthews hit the post in OT in game 6, he scores and we have everyone in MTL fired and Leafs are back as a strong contender for the cup. One post.
- Symba007


They had a 3-1 series lead; game 1 was a mulligan after what happened to JT.

You can't blame a "post" for that. They had 3 opportunities to seal the deal and didn't.

There is an entitled arrogance with this team that needs to be cured and I don't think the modern day coach has very many tools at their disposal.

If you're an old school hard ass like Torts, the "effete elite" that is the modern-day premiere forward won't respond to it, because they've been told their entire career how amazing they are and have had privilege and opportunity showered at their feet.

That's why balance is so key. Foligno would've been a better move a year ago, so he had time to acclimate and form alliances with other hard-nosed players on the roster (Hyman, Muzzin, etc.) and lead by example.

Modern day coaches are afraid to even take people off PPs: I remember when that was a privilege, not a right, depending on who's playing their best that night.

Poor ol' Willy turned this around and was rewarded with PP1 minutes far too late and watched the 10M hugster dufus flip puck after puck into the stands, fade away from every 50/50 puck battle, and get stripped of the puck more times than I can remember.

Matthews, well, at times he was a warrior and hitting everything, but he didn't get it done in the end, and with time running out on that contract, I don't know if he re-ups. I think he was hurt or not fully healed, but so is everyone in the playoffs.

In the end, by game 5, I just knew this was going to happen, so by the time it did last night, it just felt like a formality. I was barely watching by the 2nd period and had it on mute by the 3rd.

I don't know if I can muster up strength to continue to watch this pathetic team with all the emotional exhaustion it carries.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
How, after this series you can possibly say you want to keep Marner over Matthews is beyond me.

Matthews has proven year after year he can play in the playoffs. He was completely neutered this year by Marner's absolutely rookie league play.

You trade Matthews away and how does your centre depth look in 2 or 3 years when JT is on the decline?

Nylander and Brodie were two of the better players this series. Nylander was probably our best forward.

You are always wrong, so I'm less surprised you posted this than I am that the Leafs lost.

Go away.

- MynameisJeff


While Im not on the trade matthews train at all. You cant blame Marner for Matthews lack of production. The last 3 games, matthews just looked bad, ya he hit a few post but overall, he looked bad.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 1 @ 9:35 AM ET
My shakeup moves would be

Trade Rielly
Shop Marner, make a deal if its right. But not just for the sake of it.

Bring in Budreau, or even Fire Keefe and Hire BB. i dont care
fire anyone associated with the Powerplay

Find another Brodie/Muzzin type.


Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 1 @ 9:36 AM ET
Perhaps a smudging ceremony to cleanse the atrocities that occured at Maple Leaf Gardens
- mr.sir

Should try anything. Exorcism would normally work, but at this point, not so sure a Catholic ceremony wouldn’t add a century to the curse.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 1 @ 9:37 AM ET
Perhaps a smudging ceremony to cleanse the atrocities that occured at Maple Leaf Gardens
- mr.sir


LOL

That was a great way to get everyone amped up last night as well. Recognizing the 215...

My brother was over and we both looked at each other and were like, wtf? Classic Leafs virtue signalling at perhaps the most important game in teh last 5 years that could change the direction of the franchise...
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