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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 3 @ 6:43 PM ET
How
Much wine have you had today?

- CanuckDon


A few
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 3 @ 6:44 PM ET
Benning:

“I would say there’s nine guys we really liked in this year’s draft, and we’re excited to draft any of them,” Benning told The Athletic on Wednesday. “Maybe after that it’s not quite so clear, but there’s nine guys we really like and we know we’re going to get one of those nine guys.”

“We’ll keep all of our options open as we’re talking to teams, trying to make the team better,” Benning said when asked directly by The Athletic on Wednesday about the potential for trading the ninth pick. “I can’t answer that now. It would have to be a really good player to move the pick.”

Maybe hold off on putting your picks in on who they choose at 9? lol

- NewYorkNuck

Sam Reinhart for 9oa?
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 3 @ 6:47 PM ET
Tanev smoking way to much weed.
- Reubenkincade

What does that say about some of the posters here?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 6:48 PM ET
I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say you won't be able to count on Miller scoring at the rate he did last year for future seasons. Great player, but if we traded him for a top 10 pick people would be stoked.
- NorthNuck

A top 10 is a few years away from maybe impacting. Better to keep in what you know you have or it delays real growth. The hole created in the top 6 is a gamble not worth taking. Best course is stay the course & draft/develop future prospects. The best teams don’t shuffle the deck til they’ve the pieces. We are from being deep enough to do that & would only stretch out the rebuild like the Oilers & Sabres of the world. By that I mean waste the years of good players already here.

The problem is dead cap & depth. At this time the bottom 6 is the biggest & easiest task to fix. The D is a painful slow process. It requires patience unless a top 4 RHD can be snagged in a trade. Leaves us to hoping the D matures & defensively improves big time. Offensively on D we look good.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 3 @ 6:50 PM ET
I mean the fact he’s identified 9 top prospects in this draft and had the 9th overall pick really puts him in great position. He has a ton of leverage on any team that wants his pick.

He’s going to either walk away with a future core player or add a core player to this roster, maybe even do both.

- Nucker101

Who are you and what have you done with Nucker?😡
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 3 @ 6:50 PM ET
What does that say about some of the posters here?
- Shuswap Wap


They drink to much wine?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 3 @ 6:52 PM ET
They drink to much wine?
- Reubenkincade


Too

No such think

Oops, maybe that was two much.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 3 @ 6:53 PM ET
A top 10 is a few years away from maybe impacting. Better to keep in what you know you have or it delays real growth. The hole created in the top 6 is a gamble not worth taking. Best course is stay the course & draft/develop future prospects. The best teams don’t shuffle the deck til they’ve the pieces. We are from being deep enough to do that & would only stretch out the rebuild like the Oilers & Sabres of the world. By that I mean waste the years of good players already here.

The problem is dead cap & depth. At this time the bottom 6 is the biggest & easiest task to fix. The D is a painful slow process. It requires patience unless a top 4 RHD can be snagged in a trade. Leaves us to hoping the D matures & defensively improves big time. Offensively on D we look good.

- Nighthawk

Yeah I wasn't advocating trading Miller, rather making the point that the trade would be seen as good value. Obviously his production to cap hit ratio is great.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 6:53 PM ET
Sam Reinhart for 9oa?
- manvanfan

Be dreamy but not enough lol

I’ve toyed with ideas to load up the top 6 & it would push good players down to the 3rd line. Fixes depth but still needs a 3C to work.

Find it pricey being the assets given up we cannot afford yet.
Waiting til 2022 for a big UFA like is more likely better timing.

We need the top 2 lines to go to another level next season. JB tweaking the bottom 6 supports them much better & helps us compete much better & consistently.

The D will be where team success will sink or swim.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 3 @ 6:54 PM ET
We aren’t getting a Horvat. It’s very unlikely
- CanuckDon

We aren't getting a Miller for 9OA. It's very unlikely
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 3 @ 6:55 PM ET
How much is too much?
- Marwood


20?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 3 @ 6:57 PM ET
The more I read & research the more uncertain I become on who we should pick.

Ideally Clarke stands out for talent & need. Doubt he is left for us.

Moving onto a C it gives us more options to pick from. None will be ready for 2-3yrs imo.

Going solely on BPA relies on who falls to us & most likely to occur given JB has a list of 9.

My trade down option doesn’t fit this draft unless the e-draft factors in somehow.

Overall other roster decisions are in the forefront. The need for some special maneuvering there is more important. Trades or buyouts MUST be where JB claims he’ll be aggressive.

The UFA season being after the e-draft then the draft make it the toughest challenge to come for JB to get it right. He’ll certainly be shopping but to what degree will be predicated on all the earlier moves & drafts.

The 1st domino to fall will be the key that’ll get it back on the rails. It ain’t broke but it’s far from being close to what we all expect.

JB you’re on the clock...

- Nighthawk

I think that McTavish kid could slip into a 4th line role in his d+1 if Covid is still doing a number on the OHL being able to play next season. Idealy he slots into a 4th or 3rd line role in d+2. Guenther looks to be the same.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 6:59 PM ET
So peeps...

Remake & retool the bottom 6 is the easiest & 1st on the agenda?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:01 PM ET
I think that McTavish kid could slip into a 4th line role in his d+1 if Covid is still doing a number on the OHL being able to play next season. Idealy he slots into a 4th or 3rd line role in d+2. Guenther looks to be the same.
- Retinalz

McT is intriguing indeed. Good pedigree & nice skill set with some meanness.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:04 PM ET
McT is intriguing indeed. Good pedigree & nice skill set with some meanness.
- Nighthawk

He also has some NHL readiness in him as well from tape I have seen. If we did the new style of top9 playing 50+ a game and 4th line playing 10- a game, he could develope quite well tha4 way and maybe play his way onto the 3rd line.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:14 PM ET
He also has some NHL readiness in him as well from tape I have seen. If we did the new style of top9 playing 50+ a game and 4th line playing 10- a game, he could develope quite well tha4 way and maybe play his way onto the 3rd line.
- Retinalz

Very good views & points. I hope for that being a reality.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:17 PM ET
The player that was picked with the Miller pick is trash. He wouldn’t help jack sh!t
- CanuckDon


That pick was in the 20s. Again, it originally started from trading the 9th for a Miller. That 9th pick is much more aligned to the team's window than a Miller is.
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 7:18 PM ET
McT is intriguing indeed. Good pedigree & nice skill set with some meanness.
- Nighthawk


The Chaz is the way to go unless a dman slips. We fixed Bo's skating and no one is calling him a 3C ceiling anymore.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Role playing? Lol

I’m JB posters are TG. Here’s the pieces I give to you for the bottom 6.

Wennberg or Granlund
(Hoglander see below)
Motte
Highmore
Lockwood
Lind
Gadjovich
Graovac

Top 6 for purposes of high expectations is already allocated.
FYI I use a duos & 3rd wheel strat.

Miller EP Podkolzin
Pearson Bo Boeser

Hoglander odd man out being Pearson re-upped & is stuck to Bo. Hog would upgrade the 3rd line a ton & leave the 4th line less TOI. If you like Pearson dropping for Hog that’s fine.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:25 PM ET
The Chaz is the way to go unless a dman slips. We fixed Bo's skating and no one is calling him a 3C ceiling anymore.
- TJTD

Lucious has caught my eye 👍
Tantalizing. I wouldn’t be surprised if picked & can hear the fanbase go ape shlt lol That being negative but he could be a steal also.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jun 3 @ 7:38 PM ET
Ovechkin was the only 50+ point forward ahead of him in hits last season.

Only five 40+ point forwards had more hits than him this season

He’s a first line powerforward

- Nucker101


This is what I replied to

:thumbsup:
This. Just need to get the bottom 6 and the defense improved and this team will be contending in 2022/2023.
- Nucker101


tell us what you really think... 3 years from being 3 years away?


So how was your reply honest?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 7:49 PM ET
This is what I replied to

:thumbsup:
This. Just need to get the bottom 6 and the defense improved and this team will be contending in 2022/2023.
- Nucker101


tell us what you really think... 3 years from being 3 years away?


So how was your reply honest?

- NuckUp

My reply was meant for Northy
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 7:51 PM ET
Role playing? Lol

I’m JB posters are TG. Here’s the pieces I give to you for the bottom 6.

Wennberg or Granlund
(Hoglander see below)
Motte
Highmore
Lockwood
Lind
Gadjovich
Graovac

Top 6 for purposes of high expectations is already allocated.
FYI I use a duos & 3rd wheel strat.

Miller EP Podkolzin
Pearson Bo Boeser

Hoglander odd man out being Pearson re-upped & is stuck to Bo. Hog would upgrade the 3rd line a ton & leave the 4th line less TOI. If you like Pearson dropping for Hog that’s fine.

- Nighthawk


Hoglander - Wennberg - Lind
Highmore - Graovac - Motte



3 scoring lines and 4th checking line with PK ability that TG covets
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 3 @ 7:57 PM ET
We aren’t getting a Horvat. It’s very unlikely
- CanuckDon

You should get a horvat equivalent in any draft at 9.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
Hoglander - Wennberg - Lind
Highmore - Graovac - Motte



3 scoring lines and 4th checking line with PK ability that TG covets

- Nucker101

A fun looking 3rd line. The potential could be good. Lind had a taste so if he’s able to up it to the next level it could be a hoot.
Lockwood impressed me & could be an energy digger we sorely lack enough of.
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