The pro Benning crowd and the I hate Benning no matter what crowd are equally pathetic
- CanuckDon

300%

That's fair. Many would argue he isn't because his stats were career lows this year. My point still was, teams suffer injuries to their stars and still perservere, the canucks aren't in a place where they can. To me it's nothing but an excuse.
- Codes1087

Depth comes in years 12-15.

#theplan

So you miss them eh?
- Nucker101

Maybe not


We could complete it by Bobby Lu back in net and Bieksa on D

Hoglander - Petterson - Miller
Pearson - Horvat - Podkolzin
??? - Reinhart - Boeser

Rielly - Myers
Hughes - Hamonic
Rathbone - ???
- Nucker101

My god that’s horrible. We’re going to have to rebuild the rebuild.

Toronto doesn't make that trade. I think Reilly is a hell of a good defenseman and that isn't enough.

Whether it's Brackett or Benning (not wanting to get into that debate). The value in the first 3 rounds shouldn't be messed with. If we look at "re-drafts", both madden and hoglander are re-drafted in the 1st round by many people. I'd like to continue that trend of getting great value on 2nd and 3rd round picks and not keep sending them away
- Codes1087

Many, were surprised Hoglander was available in the 2nd.

Could you imagine the Sedins in the front office saying '(frank) this team is so bad we are playing again'
- LordHumungous

I think it is a really good idea. Think of the money saved on a GM/Goalie , Asst GM /Center.

We could be onto something here.

My god that’s horrible. We’re going to have to rebuild the rebuild.
- bloatedhefty

Next phase of the plan involves moving JB to president to oversee the next rebuild.

Many, were surprised Hoglander was available in the 2nd.
- Reubenkincade

All the more reason to invest in your scouting department and keep+acquire those draft picks.

It's still extremely early, way to early to properly judge, but hoglander is top 5 in the 2019 forward draft class in total points. Tremendous 2nd round pick.

Next phase of the plan involves moving JB to president to oversee the next rebuild.
- RealityChecker

Ok, you've gone too far.

All the more reason to invest in your scouting department and keep+acquire those draft picks.

It's still extremely early, way to early to properly judge, but hoglander is top 5 in the 2019 forward draft class in total points. Tremendous 2nd round pick.
- Codes1087

It's a good reason not to trade 2nd's.

Many, were surprised Hoglander was available in the 2nd.
- Reubenkincade

18 spots lower than I had him ranked 😳

All I need is a speedo and tanning grease
- CanuckDon

It's a good reason not to trade 2nd's.
- Marwood

100%

Hoglander - Petterson - Miller
Pearson - Horvat - Podkolzin
??? - Reinhart - Boeser


Rielly - Myers
Hughes - Hamonic
Rathbone - ???
- Nucker101

I’ll counter with existing roster...

Miller Petey Pod
Pearson Bo Boeser
Hog ??? Lockwood
Motte ???? Lind

Hughes Hamonic
Rathbone Myers
OJ Schmidt

2 scoring lines deep.
3C UFA to make a solid top 9.
-energy & speed
4th cuz Lind shows improvement
The D is a gamble but necessary.

- bloatedhefty

Is that a blue Croatian yacht in the background?

My point was. So much was made yesterday about pettersson missing the amount of games he did being a main contributor to the way the season went. Kucherov and price missed more games than petey did. Many teams have their best players go down for significant periods of time and still make it, it's what separates the good teams from the bad teams.

People think I'm anti benning, I'm not. I dissect each trade, each signing, each transaction separately and not as a whole. What am I is anti-excuse.
- Codes1087

What about Dallas? They came within 2 games of winning the cup.
Came back with largely the same team (Perry, Polak, Cogliano, Johns, Bishop OUT) (Robertson, Kiviranta, Keto, Dyllandrea, Oettinger IN)
Stated the season with 17 players catching covid - missed over 2 weeks.
Coach complains about NOT getting practice time and obviously having conditioning concerns.
Team goes 7-13 through first 45 days (Van played first 20 in 35)
Sequin misses most of the season
Miss the playoffs

Facts or excuses?

The Sedins new position is the Black Aces.

In practice they cycle til the players drop.

Is that a blue Croatian yacht in the background?
- Load Management

Yup you nailed it. A boat for a bloat lol

- bloatedhefty

This kind of abuse is uncalled for

What about Dallas? They came within 2 games of winning the cup.
Came back with largely the same team (Perry, Polak, Cogliano, Johns, Bishop OUT) (Robertson, Kiviranta, Keto, Dyllandrea, Oettinger IN)
Stated the season with 17 players catching covid - missed over 2 weeks.
Coach complains about NOT getting practice time and obviously having conditioning concerns.
Team goes 7-13 through first 45 days (Van played first 20 in 35)
Sequin misses most of the season
Miss the playoffs

Facts or excuses?
- Brooks_Light

Facts but they don’t matter lol
Nobody whines as good as our fanbase.

What about Dallas? They came within 2 games of winning the cup.
Came back with largely the same team (Perry, Polak, Cogliano, Johns, Bishop OUT) (Robertson, Kiviranta, Keto, Dyllandrea, Oettinger IN)
Stated the season with 17 players catching covid - missed over 2 weeks.
Coach complains about NOT getting practice time and obviously having conditioning concerns.
Team goes 7-13 through first 45 days (Van played first 20 in 35)
Sequin misses most of the season
Miss the playoffs

Facts or excuses?
- Brooks_Light

They inserted 5 rookies and lost some very good players in free agency. Was anyone expecting Dallas to be the same contender they were last year? Who here had Dallas even making the playoffs pre-covid outbreak in Dallas.

Again, every team dealt with covid (some more than others). Teams dealt with star player injuries. Dallas played a bunch of young players and people are suddenly shocked they weren't the same?

Also, facts CAN be excuses. They become excuses when every other team in the league is dealt the same hand.

Covid, flat cap, condensed schedule. Was covid tougher on some teams than others? For sure. Was the schedule tougher on some teams than others? For sure. Does any of the facts or excuses that have been thrown around since the csnucks closed the season 24th overall excuse what this team truly is, which is not a good playoff team, no, they don't.

Next phase of the plan involves moving JB to president to oversee the next rebuild.
- RealityChecker

Jim Benning to Ryan Johnson - “Ry, just look at all the work I’ve done over the past ten years. Don’t do any of that.”

They inserted 5 rookies and lost some very good players in free agency. Was anyone expecting Dallas to be the same contender they were last year? Who here had Dallas even making the playoffs pre-covid outbreak in Dallas.

Again, every team dealt with covid (some more than others). Teams dealt with star player injuries. Dallas played a bunch of young players and people are suddenly shocked they weren't the same?
- Codes1087

Dallas should try the Detroit model, then it won't matter if you insert 5 rookies.

Oh man, Carolina lost. That sucks. I just saw.

They inserted 5 rookies and lost some very good players in free agency. Was anyone expecting Dallas to be the same contender they were last year? Who here had Dallas even making the playoffs pre-covid outbreak in Dallas.

Again, every team dealt with covid (some more than others). Teams dealt with star player injuries. Dallas played a bunch of young players and people are suddenly shocked they weren't the same?
- Codes1087

Doesn’t sound a lot different than our season. Difference is some ppl ignore last season cuz it destroys their narrative. A cinderella run doesn’t match up the next season if facts get in the way.

Dallas should try the Detroit model, then it won't matter if you insert 5 rookies.

Oh man, Carolina lost. That sucks. I just saw.
- manvanfan

They did, and look where they ended up lol.

Insert 5 or 6 rookies into the full time roster, and you can't expect to be the same team you were the previous year.