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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Toffoli's heroics sting for Canucks fans, while Luongo's GM debut is golden
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yes actually it is a good thing, now I get to watch Montreal beat Vegas on their way to the SC.
- Makita

As long as TB doesn't repeat. I think the Isles winning the cup. An Isles and Habs final I don't think would appeal to very many.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
Hopefully, his self-inflicted cap constraints will prevent him from adding more burdensome contracts. He did promise to be aggressive in free agency & trading, one can only hope he is lying again.
- Marwood


Gonna be an interesting 6 weeks.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 1:23 PM ET
Yikes, you missed the point again.
- manvanfan


No, no i didn't.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:28 PM ET
What does that have to do with anything?
- manvanfan

No clue lol
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:28 PM ET
For the long-term outlook, probably*. However, Toff is a better player than Hyman, so the regression wouldn't be as low.

*though that doesn't factor in the assets given up to get Toffoli

- NewYorkNuck

They were pretty close to this year at .85 to .77 in points per game.

Career points per 82 games is 49 for Toffoli and 44 for Hyman.

I would say Hyman brings more attributes than Toffoli does. Better skater, more physical, more PK duties. Not saying Hyman is better but different.

I would say if you think one was a complete mistake to not sign then the other should be given consideration as well.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
For the long-term outlook, probably*. However, Toff is a better player than Hyman, so the regression wouldn't be as low.

*though that doesn't factor in the assets given up to get Toffoli

- NewYorkNuck

Factoring in no assets for Hyman.
Different type of player. Puck retrieval is good to very good. Scores & compliments very well.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
What do people think of Carlo as a potential trade target? Boston could look to shake things up a bit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
Ignoring UFA cap fears by a few...

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/2461531

Thoughts? Tweaks?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
They were pretty close to this year at .85 to .77 in points per game.

Career points per 82 games is 49 for Toffoli and 44 for Hyman.

I would say Hyman brings more attributes than Toffoli does. Better skater, more physical, more PK duties. Not saying Hyman is better but different.

I would say if you think one was a complete mistake to not sign then the other should be given consideration as well.

- manvanfan


We will also have to factor in their actual deals, as well. Toff signed last year, so was 28, while Hyman will be signing at 29 for how long and for how much? If he wants more than Toffoli and for longer, that factors into it as well.

If Hyman wants a 2 year deal, then ya, I have no problem with that signing. But I doubt he does.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:45 PM ET
Listen you jackass. This dude was a hot
Commodity. Green had several phone interviews with him. His reputation made him an organizational target: the minute the Canucks were made aware he was available they were the first team to call. If your 1A option is willing to join the club you get it the (frank) done before someone else can

- CanuckDon


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:45 PM ET
We will also have to factor in their actual deals, as well. Toff signed last year, so was 28, while Hyman will be signing at 29 for how long and for how much? If he wants more than Toffoli and for longer, that factors into it as well.

If Hyman wants a 2 year deal, then ya, I have no problem with that signing. But I doubt he does.

- NewYorkNuck

I doubt many people thought Toffoli would go for what he did. Hyman is a better player than Pearson and pretty much the same age. A number between 3.25 and 4.25 for either 3 or 4 years. I'd consider it for sure. Why wouldn't the Canucks not to want to add a quality player at a reasonable price. They could sure use it.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:45 PM ET
What do people think of Carlo as a potential trade target? Boston could look to shake things up a bit.
- Retinalz


Yes
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
Yes
- Nucker101


The player evaluation guru doesn't like him, he doesn't get points.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:48 PM ET
Yes
- Nucker101

What do you think the cost could be?
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:50 PM ET
Seems as if for the Canucks it's going to be Johnson or McTavish.

I have a question for everyone. If someone scored 29 goals and had 12 assists, and then 9 goals and 2 assists. would you consider that player to be a very smart playmaker?

- manvanfan


Sounds like Virtanen
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:50 PM ET
I doubt many people thought Toffoli would go for what he did. Hyman is a better player than Pearson and pretty much the same age. A number between 3.25 and 4.25 for either 3 or 4 years. I'd consider it for sure. Why wouldn't the Canucks not to want to add a quality player at a reasonable price. They could sure use it.
- manvanfan


TBH if they didn't sign Pearson and signed Hyman in his place I'd think that would be a much better use of the money. I didn't like the Pearson signing.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
Sounds like Virtanen

- SMP8719

He won't be Virtanen. I can guarantee that one.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:52 PM ET
Sounds like Virtanen

- SMP8719


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:56 PM ET
TBH if they didn't sign Pearson and signed Hyman in his place I'd think that would be a much better use of the money. I didn't like the Pearson signing.
- NewYorkNuck

I doubt anyone would disagree with you there.

Money used to get an upgrade on Pearson would have been better but who knows who that might have been or whether or not there was an options when the time comes for the right price and right player.

I probably wouldn't have re-signed Pearson but management keeps pissing off the players.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:57 PM ET
I doubt anyone would disagree with you there.

Money used to get an upgrade on Pearson would have been better but who knows who that might have been or whether or not there was an options when the time comes for the right price and right player.

- manvanfan


I mean, they could have waited to see. There was no rush to resign Pearson before the TDL, but Benning felt it imperative for some reason.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 10 @ 2:01 PM ET
TBH if they didn't sign Pearson and signed Hyman in his place I'd think that would be a much better use of the money. I didn't like the Pearson signing.
- NewYorkNuck


Hyman will cost more in the open market guaranteed so Benning did well here.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
More of a Steven Wright than a Sam Kinison.
- 1970vintage

That guy was hilarious...

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
I mean, they could have waited to see. There was no rush to resign Pearson before the TDL, but Benning felt it imperative for some reason.
- NewYorkNuck


Bo may have had something to do with getting him signed. He has chemistry with him and is tired of a revolving door of wingers.
They went and traded for Miller after Elias said something about needing a left winger, so why wouldn't you accommodate your captain?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
Hyman will cost more in the open market guaranteed so Benning did well here.
- Nucker101




Yet another gold star for little Jimmy Jimbo!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 2:06 PM ET


Yet another gold star for little Jimmy Jimbo!

- NewYorkNuck


Another JB leg humping session.
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