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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
He took this team to the 2nd round of the playoffs and won away from the 3rd round.
- Nucker101

Too bad he made a rookie mistake and didn't put Demko in, in game 5 in the second game of the back to back like every other coach did that night.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
Will certainly help in a playoff series, and I imagine he will watch a lot of video to pre-scout upcoming opponents.
- 1970vintage

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think he said Gustafson’s specialty was breaking down other teams systems? I don’t think he will be implementing anything, more advising on how to counter other teams tactics.
- 1970vintage


I guess we will see, I took the quote from Green as reported by Carol, systems, fresh voice...I guess we will see.

"When him and I coached years ago, he was always studying the NHL, breaking down NHL video, even when I turned pro and coached in Utica and Vancouver, we talked a lot about the NHL game. He’s a sharp guy with systems, and I think having a fresh voice from that standpoint is going to help us as well."
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 10 @ 5:28 PM ET
I guess we will see, I took the quote from Green as reported by Carol, systems, fresh voice...I guess we will see.

"When him and I coached years ago, he was always studying the NHL, breaking down NHL video, even when I turned pro and coached in Utica and Vancouver, we talked a lot about the NHL game. He’s a sharp guy with systems, and I think having a fresh voice from that standpoint is going to help us as well."

- Makita

Both seem like fantastic hires
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 10 @ 5:30 PM ET
Not always. An unsigned Jones is available to anyone willing to pay, a signed Jones is only available where he wants to play. If 30 teams only want him signed and he shortlist 2 or 3 teams that limits trade partners.
- Retinalz


This makes no sense.

The return that Columbus would receive if Jones were under contract, or the team acquiring him was given permission to negotiate an extension in advance would be far greater than if he flat out says he will not sign an extension with anyone and will test free agency when his current deal is up.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 10 @ 5:32 PM ET
I guess we will see, I took the quote from Green as reported by Carol, systems, fresh voice...I guess we will see.

"When him and I coached years ago, he was always studying the NHL, breaking down NHL video, even when I turned pro and coached in Utica and Vancouver, we talked a lot about the NHL game. He’s a sharp guy with systems, and I think having a fresh voice from that standpoint is going to help us as well."

- Makita


If you read the bit that NYN posted in the last blog it talks a bit more about it.

Ah, you edited while I was replying.

Could be interpreted a couple ways I guess
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 10 @ 5:34 PM ET
Both seem like fantastic hires
- Nucker101

Yes, I agree, gives hope for a more well structured game by both forwards and defence, smart move by Benning to force Green into new coaching philosophies. And good on Green for his active role in choosing both candidates.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 10 @ 5:56 PM ET
This makes no sense.

The return that Columbus would receive if Jones were under contract, or the team acquiring him was given permission to negotiate an extension in advance would be far greater than if he flat out says he will not sign an extension with anyone and will test free agency when his current deal is up.

- 1970vintage

You simply didn't understand what I was getting at. If several teams want to deal, but only if an extension is in place. Only one team gets that done and no other team does, his value suffers. They can risk waiting for TDL, but who knows if something better comes along.
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 6:39 PM ET
Both seem like fantastic hires
- Nucker101


Baumer is still around cuz he is Green's buddy but cue the drama between Shaw and Baumer. Hopefully Baumer gets reduced to puck passing duty.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
Baumer is still around cuz he is Green's buddy but cue the drama between Shaw and Baumer. Hopefully Baumer gets reduced to puck passing duty.
- TJTD


I'd assume with Shaw's experience that he'd be higher up in the pecking order than Baumer, seems more like Shaw will be the right hand man since he said that he'll have input in everything, so I assume he'll be giving Green/Baumer input but Baumer will still technically be in charge of dmen.
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 7:28 PM ET
I'd assume with Shaw's experience that he'd be higher up in the pecking order than Baumer, seems more like Shaw will be the right hand man since he said that he'll have input in everything, so I assume he'll be giving Green/Baumer input but Baumer will still technically be in charge of dmen.
- Nucker101


"....this is how you make a square in front of Demko...." says BAumer on day 1
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:28 PM ET
I'd assume with Shaw's experience that he'd be higher up in the pecking order than Baumer, seems more like Shaw will be the right hand man since he said that he'll have input in everything, so I assume he'll be giving Green/Baumer input but Baumer will still technically be in charge of dmen.
- Nucker101


Maybe he will learn a thing or two and become a better coach.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:28 PM ET
Just seen an interesting topic on Twitter . What if Wallstedt is still there at 9 and all your favorites are gone. They pointed out with Ian Clarke in charge of all goaltending you would pretty well sow up your goal tending for the next 10 years.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
I'd assume with Shaw's experience that he'd be higher up in the pecking order than Baumer, seems more like Shaw will be the right hand man since he said that he'll have input in everything, so I assume he'll be giving Green/Baumer input but Baumer will still technically be in charge of dmen.
- Nucker101


Shaw reports only to Green, everyone else reports/takes direction from Shaw and Green.
Clark does his own thing, with the occasional input and output from all, so the goalies and the rest of the squad are on the same page.
Ultimately, Green has the final say, but Shaw will be very influential on many things, including input at the draft table.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 10 @ 7:34 PM ET
He took this team to the 2nd round of the playoffs and won away from the 3rd round.
- Nucker101

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
Yes, I agree, gives hope for a more well structured game by both forwards and defence, smart move by Benning to force Green into new coaching philosophies. And good on Green for his active role in choosing both candidates.
- Makita


I agree, hopefully this is the year the team makes a solid step forward.
The team has 2 quality centres, a very good offensive defenseman( that needs some structure) some good wingers and Myers on defense.


Okay, they have Schmidt as well, but these guys also need structure.
This is the most upbeat I have felt about this team in several years, hopefully the next 6 weeks continue with positive moves.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 7:46 PM ET
Just seen an interesting topic on Twitter . What if Wallstedt is still there at 9 and all your favorites are gone. They pointed out with Ian Clarke in charge of all goaltending you would pretty well sow up your goal tending for the next 10 years.
- VANTEL


Goaltending is already sewn up for the next 10 years.

Very hard pass.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:46 PM ET
Just seen an interesting topic on Twitter . What if Wallstedt is still there at 9 and all your favorites are gone. They pointed out with Ian Clarke in charge of all goaltending you would pretty well sow up your goal tending for the next 10 years.
- VANTEL

Trade down with Ottawa one spot because they need a tendy really (frank)ing badly. Probably get a 2nd for it because Dorion.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 7:47 PM ET

- LordHumungous


Trollin, trolling trolling, the big zamboni is a trolling.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 7:50 PM ET
Trade down with Ottawa one spot because they need a tendy really (frank)ing badly. Probably get a 2nd for it because Dorion.
- manvanfan


Why would Ottawa trade up one spot if they know/think the Canucks aren't going to take a goalie?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 7:50 PM ET
Trade down with Ottawa one spot because they need a tendy really (frank)ing badly. Probably get a 2nd for it because Dorion.
- manvanfan


No they don't they have at least 3 pretty good young goalie prospects.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:51 PM ET
Why would Ottawa trade up one spot if they know/think the Canucks aren't going to take a goalie?
- NewYorkNuck

How do they know that?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:52 PM ET
Shaw reports only to Green, everyone else reports/takes direction from Shaw and Green.
Clark does his own thing, with the occasional input and output from all, so the goalies and the rest of the squad are on the same page.
Ultimately, Green has the final say, but Shaw will be very influential on many things, including input at the draft table.

- Reubenkincade

He's going to be a great replacement for Green.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:55 PM ET
No they don't they have at least 3 pretty good young goalie prospects.
- Reubenkincade

Sure.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 8:00 PM ET
He's going to be a great replacement for Green.
- Marwood


Yup.
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