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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:58 PM ET
After all, ditching "bad" contracts was one of Ron Hextall's specialties in Philadelphia.

Really? Based on what exactly?

- hello it's me 2050


Getting rid of Pronger's LTIR after his career ender, and including Grossmann
Getting rid of the ghost of Vinny Lecavalier's past along with Luke Schenn.
Moving out Hartnell (1 season too soon).
Dumping Dale Weise

Off the top of my head.
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jun 14 @ 2:59 PM ET
To NJD: D Mike Matheson
D Juuso Riikola
($6.025M)

To PIT: LW Miles Wood
C Michael McLeod
($3.75M) {+2.275 Cap Space Gain}

TO ARI: G Jarry+F Zucker
($9.0M)

TO PIT: G Darcy Kuemper+F Lawson
Crouse+2021 4th/PIT
($6.03M) {$2.97 Cap Gain}

{4.245 Cap Gain}

To F Tanev+D Ruhwedel to CGY for G Dustin Wolf+2022 3rd/TOR
{+4.2 Cap Gain with Wolf in Minors}

{Existing 5.4 Cap Room+$8.645 Gain via Trades = $14.045 Cap Space)

Sign UFA C Paul Stastny 2yrs/3.5aav/$7M
Sign UFA D Hakanpaa 2yrs/1.25aav/$2.5M

Extend: ZAR-2yrs/1.125aav/$2.25M
Zohorna-2yrs/.900aav/$1.8M
Blueger-3yrs/2.25aav/$6.75M

QO: O’Connor, Bjorkvist

{~$5.045 Cap Space Remaining)


Guentzel-Crosby-J. Carter
McCann-Malkin-Rust
M. Wood-Stastny-Kapanen
L. Crouse-Bleuger-M. McLeod
x Zohorna x ZAR

Dumo-Letang
Pettersson-Marino
P. Joseph-Hakanpaa
x Friedman

D. Kuemper
C. DeSmith
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:03 PM ET
To NJD: D Mike Matheson
D Juuso Riikola
($6.025M)

To PIT: LW Miles Wood
C Michael McLeod
($3.75M) {+2.275 Cap Space Gain}

TO ARI: G Jarry+F Zucker
($9.0M)

TO PIT: G Darcy Kuemper+F Lawson
Crouse+2021 4th/PIT
($6.03M) {$2.97 Cap Gain}

{4.245 Cap Gain}

To F Tanev+D Ruhwedel to CGY for G Dustin Wolf+2022 3rd/TOR
{+4.2 Cap Gain with Wolf in Minors}

{Existing 5.4 Cap Room+$8.645 Gain via Trades = $14.045 Cap Space)

Sign UFA C Paul Stastny 2yrs/3.5aav/$7M
Sign UFA D Hakanpaa 2yrs/1.25aav/$2.5M

Extend: ZAR-2yrs/1.125aav/$2.25M
Zohorna-2yrs/.900aav/$1.8M
Blueger-3yrs/2.25aav/$6.75M

QO: O’Connor, Bjorkvist

{~$5.045 Cap Space Remaining)


Guentzel-Crosby-J. Carter
McCann-Malkin-Rust
M. Wood-Stastny-Kapanen
L. Crouse-Bleuger-M. McLeod
x Zohorna x ZAR

Dumo-Letang
Pettersson-Marino
P. Joseph-Hakanpaa
x Friedman

D. Kuemper
C. DeSmith

- 13of39

That’s a lot of moves to make the team just as bad as they are currently.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:20 PM ET
If I was a betting man, despite what some might feel about Tanev's contract, I'd say the only way he goes is if he's unprotected in the draft. Hextall wants more players like him, not less.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:28 PM ET
That’s a lot of moves to make the team just as bad as they are currently.
- Feds91Stammer


Penguins decline
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 3:32 PM ET
If I was a betting man, despite what some might feel about Tanev's contract, I'd say the only way he goes is if he's unprotected in the draft. Hextall wants more players like him, not less.
- Rinosaur

He’s just gotta stop being a negative goal differential guy in the playoffs.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
He’s just gotta stop being a negative goal differential guy in the playoffs.
- Feds91Stammer


Much harder to do when your goalie is absolutely sh!tting the bed... Tanev had a 5 on 5 92.68 HDCF% these playoffs haha
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:40 PM ET
He’s just gotta stop being a negative goal differential guy in the playoffs.
- Feds91Stammer


I just don't see Hextall moving what he wants more of.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 14 @ 3:41 PM ET
How much do you guys think Hyman will go for?
- Rinosaur

I think I saw one of the analytics guys on hockey twitter say that $5.5-6M would be an expected and acceptable range for him.

He is a solid player. If the Penguins clear Zucker or Pettersson, I wouldnt mind if they looked at Hyman. I have a feeling someone is going to really overpay for him.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 14 @ 3:43 PM ET
I think I saw one of the analytics guys on hockey twitter say that $5.5-6M would be an expected and acceptable range for him.

He is a solid player. If the Penguins clear Zucker or Pettersson, I wouldnt mind if they looked at Hyman. I have a feeling someone is going to really overpay for him.

- SuperHenderson13


I think that's a fair price. I don't know how much overpaying is going to be going on at this point with the flat cap being place for a few more years. I could see players chasing term because of the lack of cap space.
sextoymagic
Location: cedar rapids, IA
Joined: 04.21.2014

Jun 14 @ 3:53 PM ET
I can’t believe he is still mentioning Tanev. RW is lacking the ability to recognize Tanevs value. He’s worth that contract on every team in this league. Without him our team is pathetic and lacking character. He’s a game changing role player that is one of a kind.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 14 @ 4:06 PM ET
Haha. There it is. Hextall and Burke aren’t trading Tanev. He was one of 3 players that could actually compete in the playoffs. Besides, you’re not going to trade him for a better 4th line player, even though that fourth line is more like a specialty line. And to trade him for a legit scoring line player its going to be with a “not trading this player” guy. So I’m not sure exactly who or what you’re looking at to trade him for?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:10 PM ET
Much harder to do when your goalie is absolutely sh!tting the bed... Tanev had a 5 on 5 92.68 HDCF% these playoffs haha
- MattStrat

Yeah but he sucks so he doesn’t score.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
I think you might be able to get Fleury back. Petterson and Jarry and a 1st might do it. That way, Vegas can expose Jarry to Seattle.
- Falon


Hextall pretty much made it clear, he's done moving #1 picks.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
Haha. There it is. Hextall and Burke aren’t trading Tanev. He was one of 3 players that could actually compete in the playoffs. Besides, you’re not going to trade him for a better 4th line player, even though that fourth line is more like a specialty line. And to trade him for a legit scoring line player its going to be with a “not trading this player” guy. So I’m not sure exactly who or what you’re looking at to trade him for?
- Grinder47


Ha ha... you called it. Pretty sure you gave him the idea.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 14 @ 4:51 PM ET
He’s just gotta stop being a negative goal differential guy in the playoffs.
- Feds91Stammer


LOL! He's the only guy we have with that problem.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 5:05 PM ET
I just don't see Hextall moving what he wants more of.
- Rinosaur


Did Hextall come out and say he wants to add goons/bruisers?

In Philly, he got rid of guys like Grossmann, Schenn, and Hartnell in favor of speed and skill.

I'm not seeing where it's been shown that he wants these physical, unskilled players you keep saying he wants.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Jun 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
Did Hextall come out and say he wants to add goons/bruisers?

In Philly, he got rid of guys like Grossmann, Schenn, and Hartnell in favor of speed and skill.

I'm not seeing where it's been shown that he wants these physical, unskilled players you keep saying he wants.

- jmatchett383



Tanev is unskilled? No speed? Hmm, I musta missed something..
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 5:19 PM ET
Tanev is unskilled? No speed? Hmm, I musta missed something..
- nateca444


I'm not talking Tanev specifically, more a collection od posts from Rinosaur over the past few weeks.

Also, I never said Tanev was slow. And if he's a fringe 3rd/4th liner, that's fairly unskilled on the NHL level as a whole. But this is what I was referring to:

quote=Rinosaur]
IMO moving Tanev up to the third makes it easier for Hextall to scratch his itch and find a competent gorilla for the fourth line.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jun 14 @ 5:21 PM ET
Nice scoop by the rangers getting Gallant
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
[quote=jmatchett383]
There are hoards of players in the nhl on 3rd and 4th lines with less abilities than Tanev.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
It's time for the annual "trade our guys for assets and sign good free agents" fool-proof plan.

It always sounds like an obvious thing to do and an easy win but there's a reason it rarely works out that way.

That said, Coleman and Saad would be tremendous additions if either of them make to the open market.

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Lol, this exactly. These always sound great when you just plug in your choice of UFAs at a reaaonable cap hit.

Pretty good chance that 2 more years of Zucker would end up being a better contract then most of the top 6 UFA forwards that get signed. Most of those you end up wanting to dump in a couple years.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jun 14 @ 5:36 PM ET
Nice scoop by the rangers getting Gallant
- pens4life-66

Leaves Torts open to come in and be Sullivan’s assistant.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 14 @ 5:40 PM ET
Nice scoop by the rangers getting Gallant
- pens4life-66

Crap. They're going to end up being really good. Tons of cap space if they are smart with it
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 6:02 PM ET
[quote=Grinder47]

Well yeah he's not Zac Rinaldo. But where did Hexy say or show that he values physical brusing type players?
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