I have a pretty bad memory but I’d say Kap was an overpayment. Happy he’s here but still an overpayment.
- 10inchTerror

I was thinking he meant on contracts, but I think we didn't have a 2nd to trade? so the "2nd and prospect" was off the table.

It was the 15th overall pick. I can live with it. I am also of the opinion that Hallander isn't that good and was a throw in. Ceiling of a 4th liner for a handful of seasons. Time will prove me right or wrong

What you described is the most replaceable skill set in the NHL.
- Feds91Stammer

I'll take 6 shutdown, 15 goal scorers in my bottom 6. I'm not saying the guy is irreplaceable but it is stupid to say that it is easily replaced.

Tanev scored at pretty much the same pace as Larkin this year.

I was thinking about our most tradable, least tradable assets from the playoff starting lineup. Basically if we were doing full Firesale, and made everyone available, what would fetch the most, and the least (we'd have to add) return

I excluded Sid/Geno and Letang

most-least
Jake Guentzel
Brian Rust
Brian Dumoulin
Jared McCann
Kasperi Kapanen
John Marino
Marcus Pettersson
Jeff Carter
Brandon Tanev
Teddy Blueger - RFA
ZAR - RFA
Jason Zucker
Cody Ceci - UFA
Freddy Gaudreau - UFA
have to add
Tristan Jarry
Mike Matheson

So, what could we do with a few 1sts and 55 Million in capspace?

[quote=MattStrat]
I don’t see a scenario where trading Tanev improves the team.

I was thinking about our most tradable, least tradable assets from the playoff starting lineup. Basically if we were doing full Firesale, and made everyone available, what would fetch the most, and the least (we'd have to add) return

I excluded Sid/Geno and Letang

most-least
Jake Guentzel
Brian Rust
Brian Dumoulin
Jared McCann
Kasperi Kapanen
John Marino
Marcus Pettersson
Jeff Carter
Brandon Tanev
Teddy Blueger - RFA
ZAR - RFA
Jason Zucker
Cody Ceci - UFA
Freddy Gaudreau - UFA
have to add
Tristan Jarry
Mike Matheson

So, what could we do with a few 1sts and 55 Million in capspace?
- TheGame316

Carter and Zucker should be much higher in the list. Pettersson way down near Jarry and Matheson. With his contract I don't see him having much value in the trade market.

Out of curiosity, when does J.Johnson come off of the books all together?

Also, Max Domi would be a good acquisition. Does Columbus need overpaid defensive?

Out of curiosity, when does J.Johnson come off of the books all together?

Also, Max Domi would be a good acquisition. Does Columbus need overpaid defensive?
- nateca444

Columbus needs petts because of the length of his contract so he can’t up and leave anytime soon when he’s a free agent.

Out of curiosity, when does J.Johnson come off of the books all together?

Also, Max Domi would be a good acquisition. Does Columbus need overpaid defensive?
- nateca444

Domi just had shoulder surgery that’s going to keep him out until Dec/Jan

Columbus needs petts because of the length of his contract so he can’t up and leave anytime soon when he’s a free agent.
- 10inchTerror

hahaha

[quote=Grinder47]

I dont think its that far fetched he could be packaged or used in a trade that improves the team, but again, I really like having Tanev on the team and I'm certainly not eager to remove him from the roster.

Columbus needs petts because of the length of his contract so he can’t up and leave anytime soon when he’s a free agent.
- 10inchTerror

Hahaha great comment.

Domi just had shoulder surgery that’s going to keep him out until Dec/Jan
- kfinl170

Thanks dude. Didn't know that.

Domi sucks

Tanev scores at a 15 goal pace while in a PK/Shutdown role against the other teams best players

WORTH.EVERY.PENNY
- TheGame316

PK was 27th in the league this season, he didn't shut a god damn thing down.

“Pettersson is a perfectly fine player and Matheson is junk” LOL

RW has his scapegoats. What a joke.
- Barnaby36

He said his contract is junk, not him as a player. He said he wasn't awful.

Reading is hard.

PK was 27th in the league this season, he didn't shut a god damn thing down.
- j.boyd919

You can't judge the whole team's PK based on one player.

Columbus needs petts because of the length of his contract so he can’t up and leave anytime soon when he’s a free agent.
- 10inchTerror

That is the truth of the matter for them though and why I think they would be really interested in Marino as a replacement for Jones. I wonder if the not wanting to play for Columbus will ease up now that Torts is gone?

Domi would be an interesting guy to target. Even with his injury, if you could flip Pettersson to Columbus for him I would do that for sure. Everyone knows how I feel about Laine too...

Columbus will need to model themselves like the Islanders moving forward where they just pick up a bunch of good, hard working players and instill a good team culture and then just hope that they can keep some of their good draft picks. No more trading for guys at the end of their contracts praying they will resign extensions.

He said his contract is junk, not him as a player. He said he wasn't awful.

Reading is hard.
- j.boyd919

His contract is junk. I'm a fan of Tanev, but you just don't pay a player $3.5M to play on the fourth line; that's poor asset management. When you consider the fact that Blueger and ZAR (if he's not selected in the expansion draft) could both make $2M or more, you have one (frank)ing expensive 4th line.

Domi sucks
- Rinosaur

I'm not the biggest fan but he can be a consistent .5ppg player. Overrated? yes. Overpaid? yes. A bit of a douche? yes.

But he is on the last year of his contract, and should come back hungry when he is healthy. If you could get rid of Pettersons contract for a year of Domi I'd do it all day long.

I'm not the biggest fan but he can be a consistent .5ppg player. Overrated? yes. Overpaid? yes. A bit of a douche? yes.

But he is on the last year of his contract, and should come back hungry when he is healthy. If you could get rid of Pettersons contract for a year of Domi I'd do it all day long.
- MacPatty

He doesn't do any one thing particularly well. He's the flashiest vanilla player around. He's terribly inconsistent and costs $5.3M. We're already getting poor value in Zucker at about that price, so adding another doesn't seem to make much sense IMO, nor does moving Zucker and replacing him with essentially the same player at the same price.

His 72 point season was clearly an aberration.

You can't judge the whole team's PK based on one player.
- Rinosaur

Oh I'm not. ZAR, Blueg, Tanev, the D, the whole PK unit was trash this year but I think PK is harder to sustain success on a year to year basis.

Oh I'm not. ZAR, Blueg, Tanev, the D, the whole PK unit was trash this year but I think PK is harder to sustain success on a year to year basis.
- j.boyd919

It also doesnt help the PK cause when out of 49 goalies that had at least 80 mins of PK ice time this past season Jarry and DeSmith ranked 41st and 28th in HDSV%.

It also doesnt help the PK cause when out of 49 goalies that had at least 80 mins of PK ice time this past season Jarry and DeSmith ranked 41st and 28th in HDSV%.
- MattStrat

Oh for sure, I think Tojo and I had a conversation at the beginning of the season about how much goalie's impact the PK. I feel like I thought they were going to be middle of the road, not bottom of the league, just because it's so hard to replicate success when you're a man down, regardless of system.

Im sick and tired of hearing about how the Pens need to get bigger and stronger.
Goaltending lost the series, plain and simple. It could be the Pens facing Tampa if Jarry actually had a clue and didnt give us his best Marc Andre Fleury circa 2012 impersonation.

Im sick and tired of hearing about how the Pens need to get bigger and stronger.
Goaltending lost the series, plain and simple. It could be the Pens facing Tampa if Jarry actually had a clue and didnt give us his best Marc Andre Fleury circa 2012 impersonation.
- Amanion

With how good the Islanders have been and reevaluating how well the Pens played against them, it’s clear goaltending was the main issue.

The problem is that Hextall and Burke are pushing the bigger/stronger narrative, so we pretty much have to accept reality and just hope whatever moves are made don’t lower the quality in leu of physicality.