Nate Schmidt
- Load Management

If you were in charge they probably would all be in the ECHL so I'll say no
- Nucker101

Nate Schmidt
- Load Management

I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):

TIER 1: Projected NHL All-Star

1 Owen Power, LHD, Michigan-Big Ten

Nov. 22, 2002 | 6-foot-6 | 213 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Average

TIER 2: Projected bubble all-star/top of lineup player

2 Dylan Guenther, RW, Edmonton-WHL

April 10, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 175 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Shot: Above-average

TIER 3: Projected top of the lineup player

3 William Eklund, LW, Djurgarden-SHL

Oct. 12, 2002 | 5-foot-10 | 176 pounds

Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Above-average
Compete: Above-average

4 Luke Hughes, LHD, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Sept. 9, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 184 pounds

Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

5 Matthew Beniers, C, Michigan-Big Ten

Nov. 5, 2002 | 6-foot-2 | 175 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: High-end

6 Kent Johnson, C, Michigan-Big Ten

Oct. 18, 2002 | 6-foot-1 | 167 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Elite
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

TIER: 4: Projected bubble top/middle of lineup or quality starting goaltender

7 Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

May 2, 2003 | 6-foot-1 | 185 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Above-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average

8 Brandt Clarke, RHD, Barrie-OHL

Feb. 9, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 185 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Above-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

9 Mason McTavish, C, Peterborough-OHL

Jan. 30, 2003 | 6-foot-1 | 207 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Shot: Above-average

10 Sebastian Cossa, G, Edmonton-WHL

Nov. 21, 2002 | 6-foot-6 | 210 pounds

Athleticism: Average
Hockey Sense: Average

11 Jesper Wallstedt, G, Lulea-SHL

Nov. 14, 2002 | 6-foot-3 | 214 pounds

Athleticism: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Above-average

TIER 5: Projected middle of lineup player

12 Simon Edvinsson, LHD, Frolunda-SHL

Feb. 5, 2003 | 6-foot-4 | 198 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over.

I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):


He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over.
- NewYorkNuck

William Stromgren, Francesco Pinelli, Zach Ostapchuk, Niko Huuhtanen, Vincent Iorio

William Stromgren, Francesco Pinelli, Zach Ostapchuk, Niko Huuhtanen, Vincent Iorio
- manvanfan

They are:

36 Francesco Pinelli, C, Kitchener-OHL

April 11, 2003 | six-feet | 185 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

Without an OHL season, Pinelli went to Slovenia and was also one of the top scorers at the U18 worlds, despite limited minutes at times. Pinelli is a highly intelligent player who can make tough plays consistently. He has the small-area skills to make checkers miss and the vision to make plays off the flank and under pressure. He competes well enough to win puck battles even if he’s not overly physical. His skating is elusive, with a decent first step and ability to 10-2 around defenders, but he lacks separation speed. His toolkit doesn’t scream “first-round pick” and he’s listed higher than where my eyes think he should be due to just how much he’s shown he can score at various levels. In a sentence, Pinelli projects as a middle-six NHL forward who may frustrate a coach if he doesn’t score.


79 William Stromgren, LW, Modo-Allsvenskan

June 7, 2003 | 6-foot-3 | 175 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Below-average
Compete: Average

Stromgren took positive steps this season, becoming a good scorer and looking competent versus men. Stromgren’s physical tools are easy to spot when he’s on the ice. He’s 6-foot-3, can skate and has great hands. He has the ability to create clean zone exits and entries with a high frequency due to his reach, speed and skill. His offense is very north/south and direct, as while he can make some plays I wouldn’t call him a great passer. He’s not a physical player or a top PK option, but Stromgren gets to the net and creates around the tough areas of the ice. In a sentence, Stromgren has some clear NHL attributes but with his sense and compete, his NHL role is unclear.

81 Vincent Iorio, RHD, Brandon-WHL

Nov. 14, 2002 | 6-foot-3 | 191 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

Iorio played an important role on a strong WHL team this season. He ticks a lot of boxes between his skating, defending, puck-moving and having good size. He’s not a flashy offensive player, although he shows you moments where he pops with a creative outlet pass, good seam pass or hard shot from the point. I see Iorio more as a steady two-way guy who breaks up plays with good gaps and stickwork. He skates pucks out of trouble and makes the right plays at both ends of the ice. In a sentence, Iorio has qualities that could lead to NHL games, but whether he can move pucks well enough at an NHL level will be a question.

114 Niko Huuhtanen, RW, Taapara-Jr. A. Liiga

June 26, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 204 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Below-average
Compete: Above-average
Shot: Above-average

Huuhtanen is a tough evaluation because he has a lot of appealing pro elements and several significant flaws. He’s a big winger who is very physical. He has slick one-on-one skill to beat defenders consistently. He can make creative plays, but his shot is his calling card, with a very hard release that can beat goalies clean from distance. Huuhtanen’s skating and consistency are not the best. It’s not clear if he can be a driver versus men due to his lack of quickness and playmaking on top of some conditioning issues. In a sentence, Huuhtanen has a chance to make the NHL due to his skill and shot, but his game has a lot of limitations.

He doesn't have Zach Ostapchuk ranked.

I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):


He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over.
- NewYorkNuck

All the guys that could potentially be at our 9oa and our 2nd round.

I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):


He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over.
- NewYorkNuck

Nolan Allan, Evan Nause, Guillaume Richard, Jack Matier, Samuel Helenius and Artyom Grushnikov.

All the guys that could potentially be at our 9oa and our 2nd round.
- Retinalz

Gotta check Mini's predictions for that, I'm not copying over the whole article

Nolan Allan, Evan Nause, Guillaume Richard, Jack Matier, Samuel Helenius and Artyom Grushnikov.
- Reubenkincade

Here:

43 Evan Nause, LHD, Quebec-QMJHL

Jan. 20, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 186 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average

Nause went to the QMJHL where he quickly became an important player in all situations for the Remparts. Nause’s athletic toolkit stands out as a 6-foot-2 defenseman with good skating ability. He can evade pressure well, showing good in-tight quickness and ability to turn up ice. He breaks up a lot of rushes and picks off passes due to his skating and IQ and isn’t afraid to engage physically and use his big frame either. With the puck he isn’t flashy, but he makes a strong outlet with occasions of blue line creativity. In a sentence, Nause projects as a third-pair defenseman with the potential to play higher in the lineup in the league.

44 Artem Grushnikov, LHD, Hamilton-OHL

March 20, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 198 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average

Grushnikov didn’t play all season but he has played ahead of his age group for years. He’s not a flashy player by any means from a skill perspective. He’s intriguing, though, as a 6-foot-2 defenseman who can skate. He’s excellent defensively due to how well he closes his gaps with his skating and doesn’t mind playing the body as well, landing some crushing hits. Offensively I can see him being a good “first-pass defenseman” at the higher levels and I’ve seen him on power plays at various levels, but that is the aspect of his game that is in question. In a sentence, Grushnikov projects as a physical third-pair NHL defenseman who has the potential to play higher in a lineup.

55 Nolan Allan, LHD, Prince Albert-WHL

April 28, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 195 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average

Allan’s statistics won’t inspire you (11 points in 81 career WHL games), but he is a 6-foot-2 defenseman who can kill a lot of rushes with his gap control, physicality and reach and can kill penalties well. He can make a pro-caliber first pass but his game lacks offense due to a lack of puck skill and creativity. He’s not going to be leading rushes or running a power play at the higher levels but he does show flashes with the puck of playmaking instincts. His skating is good enough for his frame and to be an NHL player, but his quickness won’t jump out to you. In a sentence, Allan projects as a “hard to play against” third-pair NHL defenseman who has limited offense.

69 Samuel Helenius, C, JYP-Liiga

Nov. 26, 2002 | 6-foot-6 | 201 pounds

Skating: Poor
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Below-average
Compete: Above-average

Helenius played all season versus men on a bottom Liiga team and held his own. He also had a good world juniors. He is imposing as a 6-foot-6 center who competes hard. He’s a nuisance around the net with his screens, tips and creating space. He can kill penalties and win battles versus men very well. There is a lack of a “wow” factor in his game with the puck, though. He’s not that fast and doesn’t make many plays. His game comes down to how much you value a player with his size and physicality who has some — but not a ton of — offense. I think there’s enough there to be a useful bottom-six forward in the NHL. In a sentence, Helenius projects to play NHL games but does not have enough skill or speed to stick as a full-time player.

74 Guillaume Richard, LHD, Tri-City-USHL

Feb. 10, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 170 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Below-average
Compete: Average

Richard was a top defenseman for a good USHL team in Tri-City. He’s a 6-foot-2 blueliner who can skate like an NHLer. The skating allows him to close on checks quickly to kill rushes, and easily transition pucks up the ice as a puck carrier. Defensively he could be an NHL player, but the question is how much offense he’ll bring. As an underage I saw offensive touch. In the USHL it was more flashes of skill and vision than consistency. In a sentence, Richard projects to play NHL games but lacks enough skill to stick in a lineup.

127 Jack Matier, RHD, Ottawa-OHL

April 8, 2003 | 6-foot-4 | 200 pounds

Skating: Poor
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

Matier played a limited role for Ottawa as an underage. His only hockey of the season was at the U18s for Canada where he was their seventh defenseman, so there is a lot of projection in his game due to the lack of sample size. Matier is a big defenseman with good hockey sense. He’s a strong defender due to his size and reach and can kill penalties. Offensively he makes a good outlet pass and shows some blue line vision to make plays. His skating is a significant issue, though, for projecting him to the NHL level as his game lacks a lot of pace. In a sentence, Matier has a chance to play due to his size and sense but his skating may keep him from the NHL.

Happy riot anniversary everyone! Celebrate it by breaking something or setting it on fire.

Happy riot anniversary everyone! Celebrate it by breaking something or setting it on fire.
- bloatedhefty

Can we not do both?

Happy riot anniversary everyone! Celebrate it by breaking something or setting it on fire.
- bloatedhefty

CFL going up against the NFL with an August start. Good luck with that. The Lions haven't been relevant since the 80's.

I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):


He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over.
- NewYorkNuck

I highly doubt he's available at 9, but I would really like Clarke for Van

Here:




- NewYorkNuck

Thanks for that, always like seeing where others have some of the players I like ranked.
I think minivan and I, both like Vincent Iorio.

They are:



He doesn't have Zach Ostapchuk ranked.
- NewYorkNuck

Thanks. Pronman thought Laine better than Matthews. Thats just something that can't ever be undone for him.

Thanks for that, always like seeing where others have some of the players I like ranked.
I think minivan and I, both like Vincent Iorio.
- Reubenkincade

I would prefer him in the 4th. I was hoping for Luke Prokop in the 4th last season though and NsH took him mid 3rd

I highly doubt he's available at 9, but I would really like Clarke for Van
- NorthNuck

Id prefer a less soft more defensive Dman.

Id prefer a less soft more defensive Dman.
- manvanfan

Is he soft? I've heard he has decent size/physicality, haven't watched him play though.

Is he soft? I've heard he has decent size/physicality, haven't watched him play though.
- NorthNuck

If he isn't, he will be once he joins the Canucks.

If he isn't, he will be once he joins the Canucks.
- Marwood

If he isn't, he will be once he joins the Canucks.
- Marwood

True

Is he soft? I've heard he has decent size/physicality, haven't watched him play though.
- NorthNuck

He has size, not seeing him use it.