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CGY ex head coach Ward on his way to ANA as Associate Coach
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Retinalz
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Gotta check Mini's predictions for that, I'm not copying over the whole article - NewYorkNuck
Based on Pronman list. So 8-10 and 38-42 on his list. |
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manvanfan
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Based on Pronman list. So 8-10 and 38-42 on his list. - Retinalz
He posted the 1-15 list already.
š I just looked at his top 15 again. Swinging for a homerun on just about every choice. Barely makes contact. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Based on Pronman list. So 8-10 and 38-42 on his list. - Retinalz
Ya, 1-12 is up, here is 38-42:
38 Justin Robidas, C, Val-dāOr-QMJHL
March 13, 2003 | 5-foot-8 | 173 pounds
Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Robidas was an important player on a great junior team this season. Robidas plays the game with a lot of speed and energy which is why despite being 5-foot-8, I think his game could translate to higher levels. Heās a great skater, who often takes pucks up the ice with speed and charges right for the net. Off the puck, he hustles to win battles and can kill penalties. Robidas shows good instincts as a playmaker, and flashes of good puck skills but I wouldnāt call his puck game what gets him to the NHL. In a sentence, Robidas projects as a middle-six NHL forward, likely on the wing, who will be a fan and coach favorite due to his speed and work ethic.
39 Samu Salminen, C, Jokerit-Jr. A. Liiga
April 9, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 186 pounds
Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average
Salminen saw his club season end early due to restrictions in the Helsinki area but finished well with a big U18 worlds where he was one of Finlandās best players. Salminen is a big center who can make plays and do so in the hard areas of the ice or off the flank. He gets to the net and competes well but isnāt overly physical. He lacks NHL quickness, which is the main concern on projecting him to the top level. He has offense, not a flashy type, but makes a lot happen consistently when heās on the ice due to his smarts and shows instances of individual skill while also being a faceoff ace. Scouts see him as a coachās favorite type. In a sentence, Salminen projects as an NHL bottom-six center with third-line center as a realistic outcome.
40 Shai Buium, LHD, Sioux City-USHL
March 26, 2003 | 6-foot-3 | 209 pounds
Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average
Buium kept progressing as the season went along, becoming an important part of a good USHL team by the end. Buium is a big defenseman with a high skill level. He has the stickhandling ability and creativity to inside-out checkers often off the rush or by making attacks off the offensive blue line. He has decent offensive instincts as a playmaker to find seams and make a first pass, although that aspect can be inconsistent in his game. Buiumās skating is a concern, though, as he will struggle with the pro pace due to his inability to escape pressure and play fast. He has a good defensive stick and hockey sense but due to the skating, I donāt see him as a top defender versus pros. In a sentence, Buium projects as a third-pair NHL defenseman with the potential to play higher in the lineup.
41 Dmitri Kostenko, RHD, Togliatti-VHL
Sept. 25, 2002 | 6-foot-1 | 187 pounds
Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average
Kostenko showed well versus men and juniors this season in Russia. He stands out with the puck on his stick, has slick hands and the ability to fool checkers with his one-on-one plays. Heās a creative passer who makes a strong outlet and has blue line poise. Kostenkoās main drawback is he has a heavy skating stride. Even though he has a decent defensive stick and size, his lack of quickness will make his defending questionable as he advances levels, but the offense in his game keeps him as a strong prospect. In a sentence, Kostenko projects to play NHL games on a third pair with enough offense to advance up a lineup.
42 Stanislav Svozil, LHD, Brno-Czech Extraliga
Jan. 17, 2003 | 6-foot-1 | 182 pounds
Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average
Svozil had an up-and-down season, and his ranking is more based on his toolkit than his performance. He is a 6-foot-1 defenseman who can skate and make plays at both ends of the rink. He has enough speed and skill to lead a rush and create offense. He can make creative offensive plays on his outlets and inside the offensive blue line. His gaps are solid, he takes the body and is reliable to play against better players. Some NHL scouts think he lacks enough quickness to play in the league but I think itās just good enough. Svozil has shown the ability to play well versus men and playing ahead of his age group, which are typical indicators of future success. In a sentence, Svozil projects as a third-pair NHL defenseman with enough offense to play higher in a lineup crunch. |
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He posted the 1-15 list already.
š I just looked at his top 15 again. Swinging for a homerun on just about every choice. Barely makes contact. - manvanfan
Pronman is swinging for homeruns? Just curious, as it seems like it's those same names batted about in the top of the draft |
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Can we not do both? - NewYorkNuck
Thatās just greedy. |
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes. |
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes. - VANTEL
7 for Petey would be good. Think Hughes will end up more around 5.5/6 |
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7 for Petey would be good. Think Hughes will end up more around 5.5/6 - NewYorkNuck
At this time I think 6 for Hughes is a bit much . I know Ruby agrees
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CanuckDon
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I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):
He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over. - NewYorkNuck
Thanks for posting. Second worst list of seen. I love how powers is an all star but below average at most skills lol |
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CanuckDon
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes. - VANTEL
If true thatās huge. They would actually have some cap space |
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If true thatās huge. They would actually have some cap space - CanuckDon
My biggest fear with the team this year was handing out to much money on players that haven't reached full potential.
Giving 7 mil to a player everyone calls Poutey or 6 mil to a small guy that players get around easier than a turnstile had me wondering if it was too early for these contracts.
I realize both of their potential though.
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At this time I think 6 for Hughes is a bit much . I know Ruby agrees - VANTEL
You donāt have confidence in Hughes getting better with age? If the Canucks see QH as a core piece I donāt see much wrong with a six year offer as long as it doesnāt contain a full NMC.
If QH signs I think the last two years of a six year contract will look awesome @ that price. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Thanks for posting. Second worst list of seen. I love how powers is an all star but below average at most skills lol - CanuckDon
I mean, to be fair, it says below average on one of the four, not most lol
How he grades:
Attributes are graded on a scale using the terms poor (lowest), below average, average, above average, high end, and elite (highest). Average is meant as a compliment, not as a criticism. Saying an attribute is average means it projects as NHL average. Shots are only graded if they are notably good or poor.
And I think he grades them based on the category he puts them in. So "Average" at the All-Stat category. |
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I mean, to be fair, it says below average on one of the four, not most lol
How he grades:
And I think he grades them based on the category he puts them in. So "Average" at the All-Stat category. - NewYorkNuck
āAverageā at the all star category? How about average compared to an average NHL player: what a (frank)ing tool.
So if Owen is below average as an all star at puck skills and Eklund is elite at puck skills for a first line player who is better? |
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You donāt have confidence in Hughes getting better with age? If the Canucks see QH as a core piece I donāt see much wrong with a six year offer as long as it doesnāt contain a full NMC.
If QH signs I think the last two years of a six year contract will look awesome @ that price. - bloatedhefty
I understand 6 year and longer contracts but I definitely don't like them. I see league wide teams trying to get rid of long term contracts.
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes. - VANTEL
Sounds about right. Hughes lack of D brings down his value & D donāt get paid like top Cās. |
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āAverageā at the all star category? How about average compared to an average NHL player: what a (frank)ing tool.
So if Owen is below average as an all star at puck skills and Eklund is elite at puck skills for a first line player who is better? - CanuckDon
Why are you so angry with Pronman? I never really understand the hate. Have you put out your draft list? Always easier to criticize someone when you're not in the arena.
As to your questions, I have no idea, you'd have to ask PronmanĀ āĀ but presumably Power as he's listed him as number 1. |
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Sounds about right. Hughes lack of D brings down his value & D donāt get paid like top Cās. - Nighthawk
Obviously Kurfrank is not an NHL source but yeah numbers could be right or not?
Also seeing by another unreliable source about Canucks have interest in Reinhart.
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CanuckDon
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Why are you so angry with Pronman? I never really understand the hate. Have you put out your draft list? Always easier to criticize someone when you're not in the arena.
As to your questions, I have no idea, you'd have to ask PronmanĀ āĀ but presumably Power as he's listed him as number 1. - NewYorkNuck
I donāt hate him I just think he is an idiot. Scrap your draft list and start over. |
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I think the new farm team is missing the opportunity . The new team should be called the Abbottsford Fertilizer
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Retinalz
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CanuckDon
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I hope we trade this pick. Itās a sh!t draft imo - CanuckDon
I thought it was a strong possibility all along |
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