CGY ex head coach Ward on his way to ANA as Associate Coach

Seeing Newell Brown is let go should we expect him to be running the Flames PP next year?

Gotta check Mini's predictions for that, I'm not copying over the whole article
- NewYorkNuck

Based on Pronman list. So 8-10 and 38-42 on his list.

Based on Pronman list. So 8-10 and 38-42 on his list.
- Retinalz

He posted the 1-15 list already.

😆 I just looked at his top 15 again. Swinging for a homerun on just about every choice. Barely makes contact.

Based on Pronman list. So 8-10 and 38-42 on his list.
- Retinalz

Ya, 1-12 is up, here is 38-42:

38 Justin Robidas, C, Val-d’Or-QMJHL

March 13, 2003 | 5-foot-8 | 173 pounds

Skating: High-end
Puck Skills: Below-average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average

Robidas was an important player on a great junior team this season. Robidas plays the game with a lot of speed and energy which is why despite being 5-foot-8, I think his game could translate to higher levels. He’s a great skater, who often takes pucks up the ice with speed and charges right for the net. Off the puck, he hustles to win battles and can kill penalties. Robidas shows good instincts as a playmaker, and flashes of good puck skills but I wouldn’t call his puck game what gets him to the NHL. In a sentence, Robidas projects as a middle-six NHL forward, likely on the wing, who will be a fan and coach favorite due to his speed and work ethic.

39 Samu Salminen, C, Jokerit-Jr. A. Liiga

April 9, 2003 | 6-foot-2 | 186 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Above-average

Salminen saw his club season end early due to restrictions in the Helsinki area but finished well with a big U18 worlds where he was one of Finland’s best players. Salminen is a big center who can make plays and do so in the hard areas of the ice or off the flank. He gets to the net and competes well but isn’t overly physical. He lacks NHL quickness, which is the main concern on projecting him to the top level. He has offense, not a flashy type, but makes a lot happen consistently when he’s on the ice due to his smarts and shows instances of individual skill while also being a faceoff ace. Scouts see him as a coach’s favorite type. In a sentence, Salminen projects as an NHL bottom-six center with third-line center as a realistic outcome.

40 Shai Buium, LHD, Sioux City-USHL

March 26, 2003 | 6-foot-3 | 209 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

Buium kept progressing as the season went along, becoming an important part of a good USHL team by the end. Buium is a big defenseman with a high skill level. He has the stickhandling ability and creativity to inside-out checkers often off the rush or by making attacks off the offensive blue line. He has decent offensive instincts as a playmaker to find seams and make a first pass, although that aspect can be inconsistent in his game. Buium’s skating is a concern, though, as he will struggle with the pro pace due to his inability to escape pressure and play fast. He has a good defensive stick and hockey sense but due to the skating, I don’t see him as a top defender versus pros. In a sentence, Buium projects as a third-pair NHL defenseman with the potential to play higher in the lineup.

41 Dmitri Kostenko, RHD, Togliatti-VHL

Sept. 25, 2002 | 6-foot-1 | 187 pounds

Skating: Below-average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

Kostenko showed well versus men and juniors this season in Russia. He stands out with the puck on his stick, has slick hands and the ability to fool checkers with his one-on-one plays. He’s a creative passer who makes a strong outlet and has blue line poise. Kostenko’s main drawback is he has a heavy skating stride. Even though he has a decent defensive stick and size, his lack of quickness will make his defending questionable as he advances levels, but the offense in his game keeps him as a strong prospect. In a sentence, Kostenko projects to play NHL games on a third pair with enough offense to advance up a lineup.

42 Stanislav Svozil, LHD, Brno-Czech Extraliga

Jan. 17, 2003 | 6-foot-1 | 182 pounds

Skating: Average
Puck Skills: Average
Hockey Sense: Average
Compete: Average

Svozil had an up-and-down season, and his ranking is more based on his toolkit than his performance. He is a 6-foot-1 defenseman who can skate and make plays at both ends of the rink. He has enough speed and skill to lead a rush and create offense. He can make creative offensive plays on his outlets and inside the offensive blue line. His gaps are solid, he takes the body and is reliable to play against better players. Some NHL scouts think he lacks enough quickness to play in the league but I think it’s just good enough. Svozil has shown the ability to play well versus men and playing ahead of his age group, which are typical indicators of future success. In a sentence, Svozil projects as a third-pair NHL defenseman with enough offense to play higher in a lineup crunch.

He posted the 1-15 list already.

😆 I just looked at his top 15 again. Swinging for a homerun on just about every choice. Barely makes contact.
- manvanfan

Pronman is swinging for homeruns? Just curious, as it seems like it's those same names batted about in the top of the draft

Can we not do both?
- NewYorkNuck

That’s just greedy.

krufrank
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes.

krufrank
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes.
- VANTEL

7 for Petey would be good. Think Hughes will end up more around 5.5/6

7 for Petey would be good. Think Hughes will end up more around 5.5/6
- NewYorkNuck

At this time I think 6 for Hughes is a bit much . I know Ruby agrees

I know people hate Pronman, and people are grumpy about people paying for subscriptions, but here's his final draft ranking on The Athletic (I've taken out the paragraph he's written about each of them them as it's way too long):


He goes all the way to 151 with a paragraph for each, so if there was someone specific you want to know where he ranked, I can post that over.
- NewYorkNuck

Thanks for posting. Second worst list of seen. I love how powers is an all star but below average at most skills lol

krufrank
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes.
- VANTEL

If true that’s huge. They would actually have some cap space

If true that’s huge. They would actually have some cap space
- CanuckDon

My biggest fear with the team this year was handing out to much money on players that haven't reached full potential.

Giving 7 mil to a player everyone calls Poutey or 6 mil to a small guy that players get around easier than a turnstile had me wondering if it was too early for these contracts.

I realize both of their potential though.

At this time I think 6 for Hughes is a bit much . I know Ruby agrees
- VANTEL

You don’t have confidence in Hughes getting better with age? If the Canucks see QH as a core piece I don’t see much wrong with a six year offer as long as it doesn’t contain a full NMC.

If QH signs I think the last two years of a six year contract will look awesome @ that price.

Thanks for posting. Second worst list of seen. I love how powers is an all star but below average at most skills lol
- CanuckDon

I mean, to be fair, it says below average on one of the four, not most lol

How he grades:

Attributes are graded on a scale using the terms poor (lowest), below average, average, above average, high end, and elite (highest). Average is meant as a compliment, not as a criticism. Saying an attribute is average means it projects as NHL average. Shots are only graded if they are notably good or poor.

And I think he grades them based on the category he puts them in. So "Average" at the All-Stat category.

I mean, to be fair, it says below average on one of the four, not most lol

How he grades:



And I think he grades them based on the category he puts them in. So "Average" at the All-Stat category.
- NewYorkNuck

“Average” at the all star category? How about average compared to an average NHL player: what a (frank)ing tool.

So if Owen is below average as an all star at puck skills and Eklund is elite at puck skills for a first line player who is better?

You don’t have confidence in Hughes getting better with age? If the Canucks see QH as a core piece I don’t see much wrong with a six year offer as long as it doesn’t contain a full NMC.

If QH signs I think the last two years of a six year contract will look awesome @ that price.
- bloatedhefty

I understand 6 year and longer contracts but I definitely don't like them. I see league wide teams trying to get rid of long term contracts.

krufrank
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If you believe the "leaks" (likely from agent?) - initial contract offers from VAN have been: 3 years @$7M for Pettersson and 3 year @$4.8M for Hughes.
- VANTEL

Sounds about right. Hughes lack of D brings down his value & D don’t get paid like top C’s.

“Average” at the all star category? How about average compared to an average NHL player: what a (frank)ing tool.

So if Owen is below average as an all star at puck skills and Eklund is elite at puck skills for a first line player who is better?
- CanuckDon

Why are you so angry with Pronman? I never really understand the hate. Have you put out your draft list? Always easier to criticize someone when you're not in the arena.

As to your questions, I have no idea, you'd have to ask Pronman – but presumably Power as he's listed him as number 1.

Sounds about right. Hughes lack of D brings down his value & D don’t get paid like top C’s.
- Nighthawk

Obviously Kurfrank is not an NHL source but yeah numbers could be right or not?

Also seeing by another unreliable source about Canucks have interest in Reinhart.

Why are you so angry with Pronman? I never really understand the hate. Have you put out your draft list? Always easier to criticize someone when you're not in the arena.

As to your questions, I have no idea, you'd have to ask Pronman – but presumably Power as he's listed him as number 1.
- NewYorkNuck

I don’t hate him I just think he is an idiot. Scrap your draft list and start over.

I think the new farm team is missing the opportunity . The new team should be called the Abbottsford Fertilizer

Lance Lysowski
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I’m hearing the same as Elliotte: the Sabres are preparing for the possibility that they’ll own two picks in the top 10.
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Good morning…latest carcast is up. Enjoy! https://podcast.sportsnet...-intensity-with-identity/
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Who knows which team, but I'd say a 20% chance we could be the one.

Lance Lysowski
@LLysowski
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I’m hearing the same as Elliotte: the Sabres are preparing for the possibility that they’ll own two picks in the top 10.
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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Good morning…latest carcast is up. Enjoy! https://podcast.sportsnet...-intensity-with-identity/
& https://music.amazon.ca/p...mDPudGq3YSEdqSzRQApQRJgsK


Who knows which team, but I'd say a 20% chance we could be the one.
- Retinalz

I hope we trade this pick. It’s a sh!t draft imo

Lance Lysowski
@LLysowski
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I’m hearing the same as Elliotte: the Sabres are preparing for the possibility that they’ll own two picks in the top 10.
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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Good morning…latest carcast is up. Enjoy! https://podcast.sportsnet...-intensity-with-identity/
& https://music.amazon.ca/p...mDPudGq3YSEdqSzRQApQRJgsK


Who knows which team, but I'd say a 20% chance we could be the one.
- Retinalz

I have seen a few people saying Canucks have interest in Reinhart.

That should go over well with Benning selling another first .

I hope we trade this pick. It’s a sh!t draft imo
- CanuckDon

I thought it was a strong possibility all along