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Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:00 AM ET
Panarin PLD Kakko
Laf Zib Kravtsov
Kreider Dvorak Gauthier/Barron
Kostin Rooney Smith

Miller Trouba
Lindgren Fox
Reunanen ADA

Buch Nils Jones 16 for PLD
Chytil for Dvorak
2nd+ for Kostin

This would be a nice opening night roster

- nyrangers9479


Poor Nils, No Love!!
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 15 @ 10:01 AM ET
Poor Nils, No Love!!
- Brukie


I didn't even notice ADA on the third pair before.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
leaving all that crap out of it, and sticking to hockey...

Tony D buyout saves 4.4 million of cap space that can be used to address actual needs

people really want to devote 4.8 million of the cap to the 3rd pairing right defenseman?

- jimbro83

He’s a 2nd pair guy playing on the 3rd pair. I’m not saying he has to be a stalwart for the next 5 years, but it would be extremely foolish to just buy him out and get nothing in return. And stop saying cap space, we don’t need cap space this season coming up. If he was on a 5 year 5 per deal, yes in a few years we’re going to need cap space. But in the 2021-2022 season we can make a splash and still have cap space. At the end of the day it’s a new coach, new front office. He plays the way Gallant likes his guys to play, whatever went on between TonyD and Quinn isn’t our problem anymore, it’s whether or not Gallant thinks he can turn him around and get him to be a contributing member of this team. Sitting out an entire season and thinking he has 1 last shot to make things work should also get TonyD to clean up whatever it is he had going on.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
I can see Gallant giving TonyD another shot. He plays the type of game Gallant likes and TonyD wasn’t a locker room problem, his problem was with Quinn and JD/Gorts. All 3 are gone now, time for a fresh start.
- nyrangers9479


His problem was with his teammates and his social media stupidity. I dont think the Rangers want him for 5.5. I think they buy him out. He cant be traded cause teams know the Rangers are buying him out and they can sign him for that show me deal.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
it's outside the realm of possibility
- jimbro83


Agreed.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
He’s a 2nd pair guy playing on the 3rd pair. I’m not saying he has to be a stalwart for the next 5 years, but it would be extremely foolish to just buy him out and get nothing in return. And stop saying cap space, we don’t need cap space this season coming up. If he was on a 5 year 5 per deal, yes in a few years we’re going to need cap space. But in the 2021-2022 season we can make a splash and still have cap space. At the end of the day it’s a new coach, new front office. He plays the way Gallant likes his guys to play, whatever went on between TonyD and Quinn isn’t our problem anymore, it’s whether or not Gallant thinks he can turn him around and get him to be a contributing member of this team. Sitting out an entire season and thinking he has 1 last shot to make things work should also get TonyD to clean up whatever it is he had going on.
- nyrangers9479


and what's your source because you sounds like you know something
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
He’s a 2nd pair guy playing on the 3rd pair. I’m not saying he has to be a stalwart for the next 5 years, but it would be extremely foolish to just buy him out and get nothing in return. And stop saying cap space, we don’t need cap space this season coming up. If he was on a 5 year 5 per deal, yes in a few years we’re going to need cap space. But in the 2021-2022 season we can make a splash and still have cap space. At the end of the day it’s a new coach, new front office. He plays the way Gallant likes his guys to play, whatever went on between TonyD and Quinn isn’t our problem anymore, it’s whether or not Gallant thinks he can turn him around and get him to be a contributing member of this team. Sitting out an entire season and thinking he has 1 last shot to make things work should also get TonyD to clean up whatever it is he had going on.
- nyrangers9479



It would certainly be interesting to see Gallant coaching him (if it gets to that point).

I still agree with Jimmy on the buyout but I'm not gonna be upset if he's still around. If Gallant can't get through to him he will essentially be black balled I would think.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
Can we talk about the PLD pipedream thing instead?
- JRR1285



Im waiting for the pipe dreaming of Barkov.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:09 AM ET
He’s a 2nd pair guy playing on the 3rd pair. I’m not saying he has to be a stalwart for the next 5 years, but it would be extremely foolish to just buy him out and get nothing in return. And stop saying cap space, we don’t need cap space this season coming up. If he was on a 5 year 5 per deal, yes in a few years we’re going to need cap space. But in the 2021-2022 season we can make a splash and still have cap space. At the end of the day it’s a new coach, new front office. He plays the way Gallant likes his guys to play, whatever went on between TonyD and Quinn isn’t our problem anymore, it’s whether or not Gallant thinks he can turn him around and get him to be a contributing member of this team. Sitting out an entire season and thinking he has 1 last shot to make things work should also get TonyD to clean up whatever it is he had going on.
- nyrangers9479


Gallant wants poopty defense?? Oh man, I didn't think we were going that direction.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:09 AM ET
literally only because nyrangers9479 brought it up

he did it to us again

it's the new Coyle

- jimbro83

Wrong, look back to the 1st page, wasn’t be that brought him up
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
His problem was with his teammates and his social media stupidity. I dont think the Rangers want him for 5.5. I think they buy him out. He cant be traded cause teams know the Rangers are buying him out and they can sign him for that show me deal.
- Brukie


When the man talks sense, we should hear him out.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
I have seen the future....


the Rangers are gonna expose Tony D to Seattle in expansion draft

Seattle is going to take a different Ranger

the Rangers will then buyout Tony D and have a 333K cap hit for him this coming season

a team will sign Tony D to a 1 year 1 million dollar show me deal before the season starts

- jimbro83



Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
It would certainly be interesting to see Gallant coaching him (if it gets to that point).

I still agree with Jimmy on the buyout but I'm not gonna be upset if he's still around. If Gallant can't get through to him he will essentially be black balled I would think.

- JRR1285

If ADA was smart (I know, I know) he would've spent all this time working on winning face offs!!
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
He doesn't and he is completely redundant. It's a shame but that's how it goes sometimes.

I think what irks most of us is the losing him for "nothing" part and I get it.


Try to look at the positives, there are a lot of them. I just want the damn playoffs to end so the real crazy season can start.

- JRR1285


The Rangers have had poor asset management for years now. How many buyouts have the had??? Shatty was the biggest. You should be use to it by now.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
Who is a comparable great-offense/shyte-defense NHLer? Tyson Barrie is not nearly as bad defensively as DeAngelo. Yandle? He got benched down the stretch this season.
- dashripdot

I think he’s better than Barrie. He’s Mike Green?

Deangelo can qb a PP1 very well, and we’re going to buy him out because we have no room for him to play?. It’s idiotic

My opinion has changed only because everyone got fired. I understood that the org had to move on. But they’re all gone lol Drurys opinion is probably the only one that matters now
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
His problem was with his teammates and his social media stupidity. I dont think the Rangers want him for 5.5. I think they buy him out. He cant be traded cause teams know the Rangers are buying him out and they can sign him for that show me deal.
- Brukie

Exactly. That why they need to build his trade value numskull
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
It would certainly be interesting to see Gallant coaching him (if it gets to that point).

I still agree with Jimmy on the buyout but I'm not gonna be upset if he's still around. If Gallant can't get through to him he will essentially be black balled I would think.

- JRR1285

100%, if Gallant can’t turn him around then I’d be done with him also. What went on between him and Quinn was 2 guys that refused to give in and Tony feeling like he could get away with a little more bc Quinn was a rookie coach. And I don’t agree with Tony doing that, but that also goes back to weak leadership amongst the players. Someone in the locker room should’ve stepped in long before it got to the point it did. What happened between Georgie and Tony happens all the time, the end result wasn’t what happened that night, it was the end result of months and months of disagreements between Tony and Quinn.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:19 AM ET
Who is a comparable great-offense/shyte-defense NHLer? Tyson Barrie is not nearly as bad defensively as DeAngelo. Yandle? He got benched down the stretch this season.
- dashripdot

Tyson Barrie is a dumpster fire on defense, if you’re saying he’s better than TonyD, or really anyone for that matter on defense I have a bridge to sell you.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
I think he’s better than Barrie. He’s Mike Green?

Deangelo can qb a PP1 very well, and we’re going to buy him out because we have no room for him to play?. It’s idiotic

My opinion has changed only because everyone got fired. I understood that the org had to move on. But they’re all gone lol Drurys opinion is probably the only one that matters now

- Slimtj100


Come on, TJ.

Fox, Trouba, Nils on the right.

Fox as QB of PP1, Jones as QB of PP2.
How can you possibly say we need him at that salary?
Does he have skills? Absolutely. Is he going to make a seamless re-entry into the locker room? No idea. Can he play defense? (frank) no.
When everything is considered the positive does not outweigh the negative, IMO.

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
100%, if Gallant can’t turn him around then I’d be done with him also. What went on between him and Quinn was 2 guys that refused to give in and Tony feeling like he could get away with a little more bc Quinn was a rookie coach. And I don’t agree with Tony doing that, but that also goes back to weak leadership amongst the players. Someone in the locker room should’ve stepped in long before it got to the point it did. What happened between Georgie and Tony happens all the time, the end result wasn’t what happened that night, it was the end result of months and months of disagreements between Tony and Quinn.
- nyrangers9479


I think things changed once everyone got fired. Dolan hasn’t said anything about that incident one way or another.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
Tyson Barrie is a dumpster fire on defense, if you’re saying he’s better than TonyD, or really anyone for that matter on defense I have a bridge to sell you.
- nyrangers9479


Tony's defense was not good and if you think it was you are being biased.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
100%, if Gallant can’t turn him around then I’d be done with him also. What went on between him and Quinn was 2 guys that refused to give in and Tony feeling like he could get away with a little more bc Quinn was a rookie coach. And I don’t agree with Tony doing that, but that also goes back to weak leadership amongst the players. Someone in the locker room should’ve stepped in long before it got to the point it did. What happened between Georgie and Tony happens all the time, the end result wasn’t what happened that night, it was the end result of months and months of disagreements between Tony and Quinn.
- nyrangers9479


Objection!! Speculation.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
Come on, TJ.

Fox, Trouba, Nils on the right.

Fox as QB of PP1, Jones as QB of PP2.
How can you possibly say we need him at that salary?
Does he have skills? Absolutely. Is he going to make a seamless re-entry into the locker room? No idea. Can he play defense? (frank) no.
When everything is considered the positive does not outweigh the negative, IMO.

- Tonybere

You’re missing my point (which wouldn’t be the first time). I don’t want to keep him lol. I want to trade him

Can people stop insulting my intelligence and just admit that trading him is better than buying him out? Lmao. Can we do this please
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 15 @ 10:23 AM ET
My god with this ADA stuff. One person on here can’t help but make EVERYTHING about ADA. Maybe they are one and the same
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:23 AM ET
Tony's defense was not good and if you think it was you are being biased.
- Tonybere

By no means do I think he’s a shutdown dman, but I think guys are making him out to be a little worse than he was
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