My god with this ADA stuff. One person on here can’t help but make EVERYTHING about ADA. Maybe they are one and the same
- picklerick

What else are we gonna talk about?

What else are we gonna talk about?
- JRR1285

What are the rules lately? To talk about? I’ve been MIA for that reason

Maybe we can get a mod in here to flag all ADA posts until otherwise necessary

You’re missing my point (which wouldn’t be the first time). I don’t want to keep him lol. I want to trade him

Can people stop insulting my intelligence and just admit that trading him is better than buying him out? Lmao. Can we do this please
- Slimtj100

I don't think anyone is trying to insult you. Right now the ADA situation is at an impasse. They can't trade him right now as you mentioned. He would need to play for that to happen and build his value back up. He is completely shoved down the depth chart at this point for a variety of reasons so him playing is a crapshoot at best.

Maybe they put him in Hartford? Can they do that with his contract? At least get him playing and if he is demolishing AHL competition maybe he would have some value.

Nobody is trading for him now and the Rangers probably don't want to play him so he is likely going to be a buyout casualty.

Maybe we can get a mod in here to flag all ADA posts until otherwise necessary
- MeltingPlastic

We don't need a mod. I will get in trouble for other stuff.

Exactly. That why they need to build his trade value numskull
- Slimtj100

Numskull??? Well tell me tubby, how much did they build his trade value the last 50 games of the season???

oh man, everybody has gone out of their minds

You’re missing my point (which wouldn’t be the first time). I don’t want to keep him lol. I want to trade him

Can people stop insulting my intelligence and just admit that trading him is better than buying him out? Lmao. Can we do this please
- Slimtj100

Tony cleared waivers in February. Every team in the league had an opportunity to get him for free and passed. What makes you think there's a market for a dman that had a falling out with his team, hasn't played in a year, and makes $5.5M? His contract at this point is a sunk cost. Drury is not going to hold onto him just to justify the contract Gorton gave him. I'm sure they will try to trade him before deciding to buy him out, it would be dumb not too. I think most people here are saying that nobody is going to trade for him so buying him out is most likely. Especially because team's know that if they don't trade for him, the Rangers will buy him out and they can offer him a $1M deal if they really want him.

I don't think anyone is trying to insult you. Right now the ADA situation is at an impasse. They can't trade him right now as you mentioned. He would need to play for that to happen and build his value back up. He is completely shoved down the depth chart at this point for a variety of reasons so him playing is a crapshoot at best.

Maybe they put him in Hartford? Can they do that with his contract? At least get him playing and if he is demolishing AHL competition maybe he would have some value.

Nobody is trading for him now and the Rangers probably don't want to play him so he is likely going to be a buyout casualty.
- JRR1285

the insulting is, and it’s all the time here, when people act like they’re in the room of these front offices.

Anyway, most rookies spend some time on AHL teams. Why is it a big deal to start Nils in Hartford for say 40-50 games, or into January/February for instance. Have Deangelo man the 3rd pair put up some stats, then you trade him basically as a rental. Those said rental get first rd picks for crying out loud. He’s only got one year left ffs. It’s not like 3-4 years. Nils growth will not be stunted by keeping Deangelo a few extra months

Per
@PierreVLeBrun
Gallant's contract is for $3.5 M per season for 4 years. Quinn was paid $2.5 M though he did have a 5 year contract

oh man, everybody has gone out of their minds
- jimbro83

It's the offseason for us. I'm keeping my sanity by not worrying about this team that much. I'm just keeping my hopes up that we brought in a good coach, we get another year of development, etc.

I will be glued to things right when the cup is awarded. This franchise could go in so many different directions....

Tony cleared waivers in February. Every team in the league had an opportunity to get him for free and passed. What makes you think there's a market for a dman that had a falling out with his team, hasn't played in a year, and makes $5.5M? His contract at this point is a sunk cost. Drury is not going to hold onto him just to justify the contract Gorton gave him. I'm sure they will try to trade him before deciding to buy him out, it would be dumb not too. I think most people here are saying that nobody is going to trade for him so buying him out is most likely. Especially because team's know that if they don't trade for him, the Rangers will buy him out and they can offer him a $1M deal if they really want him.
- SkjeiStadium

well that they cant do

after you buyout a player you can't re-sign him for a full year

It's the offseason for us. I'm keeping my sanity by not worrying about this team that much. I'm just keeping my hopes up that we brought in a good coach, we get another year of development, etc.

I will be glued to things right when the cup is awarded. This franchise could go in so many different directions....
- 2sticks1puck

I worry about this team constantly no matter what time a year it is

well that they cant do

after you buyout a player you can't re-sign him for a full year
- jimbro83

I meant another team could offer him $1m after the rangers buy him out if they really wanted him. Rather than trading for him at $5.5M

You’re missing my point (which wouldn’t be the first time). I don’t want to keep him lol. I want to trade him

Can people stop insulting my intelligence and just admit that trading him is better than buying him out? Lmao. Can we do this please
- Slimtj100

Yes we everyone knows trading him would be better than buying him out but he has no trade value. The Rangers made sure of his trade value by sitting him out the season. Why would any team give up any assets for a player they know the Rangers are buying out?? They know he will be a UFA.

BTW we arent trying to insult your intelligence, you dont have any to insult.

Sorry.

I meant another team could offer him $1m after the rangers buy him out if they really wanted him. Rather than trading for him at $5.5M
- SkjeiStadium

oh yeah definitely and I think that will happen, I think he'll get a one year deal for cheap with another team after the buyout, absolutely

Larry Brooks addressed this already, it's a not a thing

https://nypost.com/2021/0...deangelos-rangers-status/

the insulting is, and it’s all the time here, when people act like they’re in the room of these front offices.

Anyway, most rookies spend some time on AHL teams. Why is it a big deal to start Nils in Hartford for say 40-50 games, or into January/February for instance. Have Deangelo man the 3rd pair put up some stats, then you trade him basically as a rental. Those said rental get first rd picks for crying out loud. He’s only got one year left ffs. It’s not like 3-4 years. Nils growth will not be stunted by keeping Deangelo a few extra months
- Slimtj100

The issue is that when DeAngelo was putting up those stats, he was playing 3rd pair with Staal. While Staal stunk at that point, he was at least a veteran stay at home dman that could make up for some of Tony's mistakes. Tony was also getting PP1 time.

If they brought him back this year, he'd play 3rd pair minutes with Hajek/Reunanen/Robertson and maybe getting PP2 time, but I wouldn't take K'Andre off that unit so he'd have to replace Trouba which I'm not so sure about.

So now you have a 3rd pair that's a liability, and you are delaying prospects development to have a guy score maybe 15-20 points in the your hypothetical 40 games with the end goal of what? Getting a 3rd round pick for him? I'd rather have the cap space.

oh man, everybody has gone out of their minds
- jimbro83

Tony cleared waivers in February. Every team in the league had an opportunity to get him for free and passed. What makes you think there's a market for a dman that had a falling out with his team, hasn't played in a year, and makes $5.5M? His contract at this point is a sunk cost. Drury is not going to hold onto him just to justify the contract Gorton gave him. I'm sure they will try to trade him before deciding to buy him out, it would be dumb not too. I think most people here are saying that nobody is going to trade for him so buying him out is most likely. Especially because team's know that if they don't trade for him, the Rangers will buy him out and they can offer him a $1M deal if they really want him.
- SkjeiStadium

Well I saw him play 2 seasons ago, and god damn he was good.

It does calls for him playing games on the Rangers next season to build up value yes.

The issue is that when DeAngelo was putting up those stats, he was playing 3rd pair with Staal. While Staal stunk at that point, he was at least a veteran stay at home dman that could make up for some of Tony's mistakes. Tony was also getting PP1 time.

If they brought him back this year, he'd play 3rd pair minutes with Hajek/Reunanen/Robertson and maybe getting PP2 time, but I wouldn't take K'Andre off that unit so he'd have to replace Trouba which I'm not so sure about.

So now you have a 3rd pair that's a liability, and you are delaying prospects development to have a guy score maybe 15-20 points in the your hypothetical 40 games with the end goal of what? Getting a 3rd round pick for him? I'd rather have the cap space.
- SkjeiStadium

We obviously don't have the roster space for him, but someone really should try converting him for forward for the exact reasons you outlined.

My god with this ADA stuff. One person on here can’t help but make EVERYTHING about ADA. Maybe they are one and the same
- picklerick

I haven’t talked about ADA in over a month, someone else brought him up. I say one thing about him and it’s 5 pages of me bringing him up.

I haven’t talked about ADA in over a month, someone else brought him up. I say one thing about him and it’s 5 pages of me bringing him up.
- nyrangers9479

HenryHockey the troll brought it up and you had a lineup posted a couple posts later.

You fed the troll and the blog spiraled.

I have no issue discussing this but I do think it is a bit of a dead horse at this point. They're gonna cut their losses and move on.

I haven’t talked about ADA in over a month, someone else brought him up. I say one thing about him and it’s 5 pages of me bringing him up.
- nyrangers9479

Lol. I just think having as much time pass maybe cooler heads could prevail. It’s best for the NY Rangers to get value for players they let go regardless of who it is. Buying them out is dumb. We say it all the time lol which is the ironic part. I get it’s cheap buyout but Deangelo is a helluva offensive defenseman and last check, teams are into those kind of players

Lol. I just think having as much time pass maybe cooler heads could prevail. It’s best for the NY Rangers to get value for players they let go regardless of who it is. Buying them out is dumb. We say it all the time lol which is the ironic part. I get it’s cheap buyout but Deangelo is a helluva offensive defenseman and last check, teams are into those kind of players
- Slimtj100

The real issue is the position this has the Rangers in. I hate buyouts so much but this one makes more sense than most.