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potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 16 @ 7:48 PM ET
Really, I thought Leddy could have played that a lot better...gave Kucherov waaay too much time and space to make the pass.
- UIF

Leddy is having the kind of playoffs where I can’t wait to see him in a Seattle uniform.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 8:07 PM ET
Leddy is having the kind of playoffs where I can’t wait to see him in a Seattle uniform.
- potvin05

It’s funny when we say things like this and the player we say it about has a few awesome games immediately after

Hopefully that’s the case. With that said Leddy was pretty putrid last night (and some other games as well) but so was Pelech and pulock. Hopefully we see something different tomorrow.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jun 16 @ 8:12 PM ET
I had the unfortunate displeasure of seeing a shirtless Maroon celebrating at the Cup party in Tampa. He looks like a bearskin rug stuffed with pudding. Don't let his doughy look fool you though. He can throw the mits. He's no Bob Probert, but he did have a "fight" with Chara, and even attempting that takes some large nuts. He has stone hands though and his sole value on ice is gooning it up and board battles. He's pretty good at protecting the puck, but not very good doing anything with it that shows up on the scoresheet.
- GalacticStone

He’s a great 4th line player. And prob at a reasonable rate. Does his job perfectly. Was mucking it up w Ross Johnston last yr, I believe in playoffs. I think guys were just busting balls.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 16 @ 8:14 PM ET
It’s funny when we say things like this and the player we say it about has a few awesome games immediately after

Hopefully that’s the case. With that said Leddy was pretty putrid last night (and some other games as well) but so was Pelech and pulock. Hopefully we see something different tomorrow.

- Cptmjl

Leddy is not terrible and any d-man shouldn't feel too bad about getting exposed at this point in the playoffs. We are down to the top four teams in the league, and with the possible exception of Montreal, all of these teams can burn the best defense. I would trade Schenn and Rutta for Leddy any day. Last night was gonna be a rough night and there is no getting around that.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jun 16 @ 8:16 PM ET
It’s funny when we say things like this and the player we say it about has a few awesome games immediately after

Hopefully that’s the case. With that said Leddy was pretty putrid last night (and some other games as well) but so was Pelech and pulock. Hopefully we see something different tomorrow.

- Cptmjl

I think we’ll definitely see a better Isles team tomorrow night. No way Trotz doesn’t have them ready. If we get the game one isles, I’ll be happy. BTW, I know a lot of discussion has been the officiating on both sides and as a whole in playoffs, but Sorokin was phenomenal in relief. Really encouraging to see how well he played, especially coming in cold. He’s gonna be a beast - and may already be one.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 16 @ 8:17 PM ET
He’s a great 4th line player. And prob at a reasonable rate. Does his job perfectly. Was mucking it up w Ross Johnston last yr, I believe in playoffs. I think guys were just busting balls.
- TogaIsles

I like the big muldoon. He's great value for his contract. He knows his role and embraces it. He doesn't get into the low slot and crease area as much as I would like. I'd like to see more of an Andreychuk style from him. Get in there and get hit with point shots or tip them in. He's always off in a corner somewhere.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 16 @ 8:18 PM ET
I think we’ll definitely see a better Isles team tomorrow night. No way Trotz doesn’t have them ready. If we get the game one isles, I’ll be happy. BTW, I know a lot of discussion has been the officiating on both sides and as a whole in playoffs, but Sorokin was phenomenal in relief. Really encouraging to see how well he played, especially coming in cold. He’s gonna be a beast - and may already be one.
- TogaIsles

Sorokin would inspire a lot more confidence than McElhinney. If Vasi gets hurt, the Lightning are well and truly phucked.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 8:25 PM ET
I think we’ll definitely see a better Isles team tomorrow night. No way Trotz doesn’t have them ready. If we get the game one isles, I’ll be happy. BTW, I know a lot of discussion has been the officiating on both sides and as a whole in playoffs, but Sorokin was phenomenal in relief. Really encouraging to see how well he played, especially coming in cold. He’s gonna be a beast - and may already be one.
- TogaIsles

Sorokin is cool as a cucumber. Nothing rattles him. He’s already a beast. Trotz won’t do it of course and I’m in no way saying he should before the usual parrots chirp away but if he threw him in tomorrow I would be completely confident and fine with it. He’s that good.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jun 16 @ 8:27 PM ET
I like the big muldoon. He's great value for his contract. He knows his role and embraces it. He doesn't get into the low slot and crease area as much as I would like. I'd like to see more of an Andreychuk style from him. Get in there and get hit with point shots or tip them in. He's always off in a corner somewhere.
- GalacticStone

Gotta have guys like that, especially this time of year. Stanley Cup teams are typically different makeup than Presidents trophy teams. Need to have a Gm that understands that. Fancy stats and stars are great but that goes by the wayside somewhat in the playoffs and typically doesn’t translate to a deep run. Need character guys or you’re gonna have a short run. My opinion of course.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 16 @ 8:28 PM ET
It’s funny when we say things like this and the player we say it about has a few awesome games immediately after

Hopefully that’s the case. With that said Leddy was pretty putrid last night (and some other games as well) but so was Pelech and pulock. Hopefully we see something different tomorrow.

- Cptmjl

You could make the argument that Leddy was our best D-man last year’s playoffs so it’s kinda frightening how far he’s dropping off. He’s not young anymore either.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 16 @ 8:29 PM ET
I don’t know I guess everyone just doesn’t know “WFT” they’re talking about. Must have not played in the elite beer leagues others did and Patty Lafontaine’s backyard. Watching fat Leo skate in twenty seconds after the puck went in alone twenty feet from everyone when there’s 7 opposing players on the ice means nothing. I didn’t realize Komarov needed to cover no one ever. It was every other islanders fault Barzal, Leddy, Eberle, out there besides fat Leo evidently not blown coverage on everyone’s part. Barzal and Leddy lamely “pressuring” Kucherov and Komarov dragging arse. The guy is just so good. All hail fat Leo the savior of the first line
- Cptmjl


Leo is absolutely the best 1st line player to have ever cleared waivers twice in a season.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jun 16 @ 8:32 PM ET
Sorokin is cool as a cucumber. Nothing rattles him. He’s already a beast. Trotz won’t do it of course and I’m in no way saying he should before the usual parrots chirp away but if he threw him in tomorrow I would be completely confident and fine with it. He’s that good.
- Cptmjl

He came in last night and after he made his first save I realized we would be ok. And he had to fend off some tough ones too. He’s so poised and as you say cool under pressure. Agree, Varly has been great of late but have all the confidence in the world with Sorokin too.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 16 @ 8:34 PM ET
Sorokin is cool as a cucumber. Nothing rattles him. He’s already a beast. Trotz won’t do it of course and I’m in no way saying he should before the usual parrots chirp away but if he threw him in tomorrow I would be completely confident and fine with it. He’s that good.
- Cptmjl


Either Varly or Sorokin is a solid option. Trotz has two good choices and they are both correct. I was a little surprised to see him put Varly back in. Sorokin looked good and I thought they'd play it safe with Varly. I don't think it would have changed the outcome.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 16 @ 9:01 PM ET
Agreeed. Way too much time and space
- keaner17


Kuch made a nice cut back towards the blue line and Leddy almost blew a tire trying to keep up. Credit to Kuch, made a nice play, Leddy by no means is dismissed of fault.
At the time of the goal there were 3 Bolts in the zone and 3 Isles. Everyone covers a man we are ok. Barzal missed his check.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 16 @ 9:04 PM ET
Leddy is having the kind of playoffs where I can’t wait to see him in a Seattle uniform.
- potvin05


He’s struggled for sure.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 9:04 PM ET
Either Varly or Sorokin is a solid option. Trotz has two good choices and they are both correct. I was a little surprised to see him put Varly back in. Sorokin looked good and I thought they'd play it safe with Varly. I don't think it would have changed the outcome.
- JimmyP

Yeah can’t put anything on Varlamov last night.
Hockeyislife
New York Islanders
Joined: 05.29.2018

Jun 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
Sorokin is cool as a cucumber. Nothing rattles him. He’s already a beast. Trotz won’t do it of course and I’m in no way saying he should before the usual parrots chirp away but if he threw him in tomorrow I would be completely confident and fine with it. He’s that good.
- Cptmjl


I would of kept Sorokin in the game he was looking real good after varly got injured
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 16 @ 9:21 PM ET
He came in last night and after he made his first save I realized we would be ok. And he had to fend off some tough ones too. He’s so poised and as you say cool under pressure. Agree, Varly has been great of late but have all the confidence in the world with Sorokin too.
- TogaIsles



sOrOkin was solid for sure. The best part is the fantasy GMs who had Varly or sOrOkin in net both earned points
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 16 @ 9:43 PM ET
Kuch made a nice cut back towards the blue line and Leddy almost blew a tire trying to keep up. Credit to Kuch, made a nice play, Leddy by no means is dismissed of fault.
At the time of the goal there were 3 Bolts in the zone and 3 Isles. Everyone covers a man we are ok. Barzal missed his check.

- nyisles7

I don't particularly like how Barzy played it but originally it was just Kuch, Leddy and Barzy. Dobson was next back and covered the trailer. Because Kuch circled back high, Barzy had pinched in at this point. Palat, coming off the bench entered the zone on the opposite side of Barzy with Leo behind him by a couple of strides.

I'm okay with where Barzy went and I don't fault Leo because it was a bullpoop change that set Palat free.
You can watch it here

https://www.wfla.com/spor...-palat-for-go-ahead-goal/

It was a great play by Kuch, but leddy and Barzy simply didn't smother him
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 16 @ 9:56 PM ET
I don't particularly like how Barzy played it but originally it was just Kuch, Leddy and Barzy. Dobson was next back and covered the trailer. Because Kuch circled back high, Barzy had pinched in at this point. Palat, coming off the bench entered the zone on the opposite side of Barzy with Leo behind him by a couple of strides.

I'm okay with where Barzy went and I don't fault Leo because it was a bullpoop change that set Palat free.
You can watch it here

https://www.wfla.com/spor...-palat-for-go-ahead-goal/

It was a great play by Kuch, but leddy and Barzy simply didn't smother him

- keaner17


I agree with everything you said but, Kuch was Leddy’s man and Barzal needs to put his head on a swivel and find a man. Leddy (frank)s up the coverage on Kuch then it's on him. Let him do his job and Barzal needs to do his. If you don’t then there are guys open.

Let’s hope they step their game up in game 3 or they will find themselves down a game. Which would suck
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:23 PM ET
I agree with everything you said but, Kuch was Leddy’s man and Barzal needs to put his head on a swivel and find a man. Leddy (frank)s up the coverage on Kuch then it's on him. Let him do his job and Barzal needs to do his. If you don’t then there are guys open.

Let’s hope they step their game up in game 3 or they will find themselves down a game. Which would suck

- nyisles7

Don’t disagree w your assessment of 13. No need to double there. Or at least be aware of players coming into play Center always responsible for third man low. He blew his coverage of trailing player (Palat) entering zone.
TogaIsles
New York Islanders
Location: TopFivePoster
Joined: 01.20.2018

Jun 16 @ 10:29 PM ET
sOrOkin was solid for sure. The best part is the fantasy GMs who had Varly or sOrOkin in net both earned points
- nyisles7

Yeah. No offense, but I don’t understand your narrative sometimes. Why it’s you against the rest of the isles fans on here? We all want the same thing. We all also realize Trotz knows what he’s doing. Sometimes it just feels good to vent. PS Habs are up 2-0 currently on Vegas. Shots 14/11 Habs more than halfway through game.
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:41 PM ET
Yeah. No offense, but I don’t understand your narrative sometimes. Why it’s you against the rest of the isles fans on here? We all want the same thing. We all also realize Trotz knows what he’s doing. Sometimes it just feels good to vent. PS Habs are up 2-0 currently on Vegas. Shots 14/11 Habs more than halfway through game.
- TogaIsles

Habs 3-0 over Vegas now.

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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
Yeah. No offense, but I don’t understand your narrative sometimes. Why it’s you against the rest of the isles fans on here? We all want the same thing. We all also realize Trotz knows what he’s doing. Sometimes it just feels good to vent. PS Habs are up 2-0 currently on Vegas. Shots 14/11 Habs more than halfway through game.
- TogaIsles


No offense taken. I’m Just kicking back
Can’t believe the game The Habs are playing.
Big lift for them getting Petry back.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
Don’t disagree w your assessment of 13. No need to double there. Or at least be aware of players coming into play Center always responsible for third man low. He blew his coverage of trailing player (Palat) entering zone.
- TogaIsles


Agreed, Hockey 101
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