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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
He hasn't scored a goal in 18 straight playoff games. I think that's not the kind of production Dubas was envisioning when he signed him.
- mjones242


Do Matthews
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
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8 goals in his last 18.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
Do Matthews
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Matthews has scored 8 times in his past 18 playoff games.

EDIT: Gull beat me to it!
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
Matthews has scored 8 times in his past 18 playoff games.

EDIT: Gull beat me to it!

- mjones242



Early bird, gets the worm
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Over the last 3 playoff series (19 games, or the last time 10.9 Mitch scored):

Marner: 2 goals - 12 points
Nylander: 8 goals - 15 points
Matthews: 8 goals - 17 points


Pretty clear who the problem child is…
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Are points the most important thing though?

I mean Wendel Clark was not a point per game player, and I challenge you to find a Leafs that doesn't love Wendel Clark

- PatC80

Umm Wendel had several 40 plus pt seasons, plus a 60 and 70 pointer.

Josh is .43 ppg
Wendel was .711 ppg
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
Early bird, gets the worm
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shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
What about the 0 goals in 18 playoff games?
- Steven_Seagull

I guess Edmonton should punt McDavid if that’s what we’re going by now.

And every year when a team puts their focus on shutting down MacKinnon the Avs are history.
Without players like Marner you don’t even make the playoffs. I’m not his biggest fan but I think you lose every deal you make if he’s in it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
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Jun 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
Over the last 3 playoff series (19 games, or the last time 10.9 Mitch scored):

Marner: 2 goals - 12 points
Nylander: 8 goals - 15 points
Matthews: 8 goals - 17 points


Pretty clear who the problem child is…

- Steven_Seagull

Yet Marner leads both in playoff pts since he came into the league.
but agreed, lately he hasnt been good.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 17 @ 1:47 PM ET
Umm Wendel had several 40 plus pt seasons, plus a 60 and 70 pointer.

Josh is .43 ppg
Wendel was .711 ppg

- Fakepartofme


What if you remove the season where he played injured all year in Columbus?

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
Matthews has scored 8 times in his past 18 playoff games.

EDIT: Gull beat me to it!

- mjones242

As an elite scorer, thats not great.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
I guess Edmonton should punt McDavid if that’s what we’re going by now.

And every year when a team puts their focus on shutting down MacKinnon the Avs are history.
Without players like Marner you don’t even make the playoffs. I’m not his biggest fan but I think you lose every deal you make if he’s in it.

- shack67



McDavid has 10 goals and 20 points in his last 18 playoff games.

Not his fault the rest of the team sucks.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
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Jun 17 @ 1:48 PM ET
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He has 17 points in his last 17 playoff games.

11 in his last 11.


I dunno. He went through a bit of a dry spell against Montreal but he's been pretty consistently dangerous.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
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Jun 17 @ 1:49 PM ET
Umm Wendel had several 40 plus pt seasons, plus a 60 and 70 pointer.

Josh is .43 ppg
Wendel was .711 ppg

- Fakepartofme


My point is, that guys like Josh Anderson would be cheered here, just look at Zach Hyman as a more recent example
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
He has 17 points in his last 17 playoff games.

11 in his last 11.


I dunno. He went through a bit of a dry spell against Montreal but he's been pretty consistently dangerous.

- BINGO!


Matthews only had one really bad playoff when he went head to head against Patrice Bergeron. Bergeron just shut him down.. Against the Capitals, he had 4 goals in 6 games and since that series against Boston, he's been really good.

Matthews is not the problem, Nylander is not the problem, Tavares is not the problem. We can't blame him for the injury.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
What if you remove the season where he played injured all year in Columbus?
- Scabeh

What if we removed all the seasons wendal played injured?



shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
xMcDavid has 10 goals and 20 points in his last 18 playoff games.

Not his fault the rest of the team sucks.

- Steven_Seagull

He had 1 goal and was a minus 2 this year. In leafland that will get you run out of town.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
As an elite scorer, thats not great.
- Fakepartofme

36 goal pace over 82.

I think that's pretty damn good. He was snakebitten hard this year and played two awful games to close out the series, but I never felt he was the problem.

I'm not excusing AM34 completely for this lack of performance this year, but there is clearly no comparison between him and Mitch.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
My point is, that guys like Josh Anderson would be cheered here, just look at Zach Hyman as a more recent example
- PatC80

Not at 5.5 m
People love Zach cause he makes 2.25
0.54 ppg

If zach made 5.5....he would not be liked
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
He had 1 goal and was a minus 2 this year. In leafland that will get you run out of town.
- shack67



He also had 5 goals and 9 points in 4 games last year
Horsey Sauce
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
Matthews only had one really bad playoff when he went head to head against Patrice Bergeron. Bergeron just shut him down.. Against the Capitals, he had 4 goals in 6 games and since that series against Boston, he's been really good.

Matthews is not the problem, Nylander is not the problem, Tavares is not the problem. We can't blame him for the injury.

- PatC80

Nylander at 7mil is certainly a problem.. you need balance, Nylander doesn’t have a well rounded enough game to make that much. Maybe on a team that desperately needs scoring.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
He had 1 goal and was a minus 2 this year. In leafland that will get you run out of town.
- shack67

If Marner was making a reasonable salary I don't think there would be quite as much angst.

If Marner had scored more than 0 goals in his last 18 post-season games I don't think there would be as much angst.

There's angst and it's justified.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
Matthews has scored 8 times in his past 18 playoff games.

EDIT: Gull beat me to it!

- mjones242

I count two goals last year and one goal this year
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
Not at 5.5 m
People love Zach cause he makes 2.25
0.54 ppg

If zach made 5.5....he would not be liked

- Fakepartofme


If Zach were to stay as a Leaf for $5.5M, I think there would be a lot more happier people than you think. I don't think the Leafs could afford him, but he's worth it, IMO..

The issue with Anderson is the term, not the money
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 17 @ 1:58 PM ET

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