If Nashville can trade PK Subban and his $9M contract without retaining salary, then SJ can move Kane without retaining salary..

To do what you're suggesting would probably take more than Amirov and a 1st.. Likely need to add in Sandin and Robertson
- PatC80

Yep, just takes 1 team that likes him and can afford him.

Kane
Konecny
Seth Jones

I'd go after those three, if there is going to be a 'foundational change'
- PatC80

If Philly goes full dummy mode then I would love Konecny

Jones is walking next year...Any team who gets him is getting him knowing he is testing FA. Don't think that will be the Leafs.

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- senstroll

when did sid sexeiro ever have a ponytail?

Yep, just takes 1 team that likes him and can afford him.
- Garnie

SJ has one of the weakest prospect pools in the league.

Think they would be wise to look after that over saving 1M in cap space for the next 4 years.

One option makes them a better team, the other prolongs their misery.

Plus who can afford him that is a good team? In a flat cap world I don't think its possible to not retain salary. Bad teams with cap space don't usually go for 29 year olds.

Yep, just takes 1 team that likes him and can afford him.
- Garnie

exactly, heck it could even be Seattle... Not sure why SJ would be so desperate to move Evander Kane though.

To get them to agree not only to trade Kane but to retain salary, it's gonna cost a lot more.. I would think Sandin, Amirov, Robertson and a 2022 1st for Evander Kane and what 25%-50% salary retention?

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- senstroll

Only when you post silliness do I take the jab. 😎

exactly, heck it could even be Seattle... Not sure why SJ would be so desperate to move Evander Kane though.

To get them to agree not only to trade Kane but to retain salary, it's gonna cost a lot more.. I would think Sandin, Amirov, Robertson and a 2022 1st for Evander Kane and what 25%-50% salary retention?
- PatC80

K based off of what though?

Trades aren't random...they are based off of previous markets.

Thats basically 4 1st round picks...When has that ever happened in the NHL?

What a sucky summer it's going to be for Marner.

Can't even travel to get away from it all.
- Scabeh

he's probably double-vaccinated.

He can go to the USA - so long as it's not astrazeneca

K based off of what though?

Trades aren't random...they are based off of previous markets.

Thats basically 4 1st round picks...When has that ever happened in the NHL?
- Santo_44

Based off of why would SJ do it? Are they desperate to move him?

Also, Robertson was a 2nd rd pick.

The only way I could see Kane coming to Toronto, is if Nylander or Marner goes to San Jose. There's no need to retain salary on Kane.

The Kessel deal, the Leafs were desperate to move on from him to rebuild properly, plus, Kessel screwed the Leafs by only giving them a small list of teams he would accept a trade to.. All of them, were at, or near the max cap.

Kane and Kessel are not the same trade scenarios.

SJ has no reason to move Kane
Leafs needed to move Kessel

Oh FFS no you wouldnt.
Jesus.

At 5.5 per...he had 24pts this season...currently has 1pt these playoffs
Had 4pts in 26 games the previous season and has whopping 9pts in 34 playoff games.

He would be crucified in Toronto.
but please dont pretend you'd take marner over him....even with the 5m cap space.
- Fakepartofme

How the frank did he get $5.5 AND term with numbers like that?

he's probably double-vaccinated.

He can go to the USA - so long as it's not astrazeneca

- Nasty_Duck

you know, I bet he got AZ just to piss off more Leafs fans.

How the frank did he get $5.5 AND term with numbers like that?
- Nasty_Duck

isn't it obvious? I mean, he's only a GM of the year finalist

Based off of why would SJ do it? Are they desperate to move him?

Also, Robertson was a 2nd rd pick.

The only way I could see Kane coming to Toronto, is if Nylander or Marner goes to San Jose. There's no need to retain salary on Kane.

The Kessel deal, the Leafs were desperate to move on from him to rebuild properly, plus, Kessel screwed the Leafs by only giving them a small list of teams he would accept a trade to.. All of them, were at, or near the max cap.

Kane and Kessel are not the same trade scenarios.

SJ has no reason to move Kane
Leafs needed to move Kessel
- PatC80

They are in a rebuild/re-tool. He is 29 years old and is a player they can trade to improve their league worst prospect pool. They aren't trading Meier or any of their D. Same position the Leafs were in 5 years ago...did they have to move Kessel? No of course not but if they want to improve the franchise for the better it was the necessary move.

Robertson is the Leafs top prospect...safe to say he is worth a 1st round pick now.


Huh.........No Nylander or Marner are not going the other way for Kane.

SJ is in the same position the Leafs were...Bottom of the league team with no prospect pool.

If Marner was making a reasonable salary I don't think there would be quite as much angst.

If Marner had scored more than 0 goals in his last 18 post-season games I don't think there would be as much angst.

There's angst and it's justified.
- mjones242

I hear ya. But I think these guys are too good and too young to give up on. They’re the best group of forwards that we’ve ever had. And drafted by us, it’s a miracle.

That top line had so many chances to score. It didn’t help that Hyman was no where near his mid season form.

They are in a rebuild/re-tool. He is 29 years old and is a player they can trade to improve their league worst prospect pool. They aren't trading Meier or any of their D. Same position the Leafs were in 5 years ago...did they have to move Kessel? No of course not but if they want to improve the franchise for the better it was the necessary move.

Robertson is the Leafs top prospect...safe to say he is worth a 1st round pick now.


Huh.........No Nylander or Marner are not going the other way for Kane.

SJ is in the same position the Leafs were...Bottom of the league team with no prospect pool.
- Santo_44

Even if that was true, moving Kane doesn't do much..

they still other large contracts like Karlsson, Burns, Vlasic, Couture, Martin Jones and Hertl

he's probably double-vaccinated.

He can go to the USA - so long as it's not astrazeneca

- Nasty_Duck

My first dose was AZ.

I'm now eligible to book my second appointment, but I want Moderna or Pfizer for obvious reasons.

I can't find any clinics with it.

FML

Even if that was true, moving Kane doesn't do much..

they still other large contracts like Karlsson, Burns, Vlasic, Couture, Martin Jones and Hertl
- PatC80

Of course it does.

Kessel brought the Leafs a 1st which they used for Andersen and Kapanen which was a fantastic player for them that eventually turned into another 1st, Hallinder and a top prospect.

So yes moving Kane would help them. Moving Kessel is still helping the Leafs 6 years later.

You move Kane for a better future.

My first dose was AZ.

I'm now eligible to book my second appointment, but I want Moderna or Pfizer for obvious reasons.

I can't find any clinics with it.

FML
- Atomic Wedgie

check local pharmacies, you may need to call ahead.. Some are taking appointments and some take walk-ins

Says the media, who cares what narrative they want to make up.

Leafs can ask Jumbo what kind of teammate he is...no one cares what the media talks about. They always attack guys like him and SJ had no problem signing him long term regardless of that. Proves its bs.
- Santo_44

Very humble..

Not to mention he declared bankruptcy due to his gambling debts. I am sure he is a great guy though. [/img]

Ya E Kane.

Phil Kessel like trade with salary retained.

Fights, scores, has speed, skill. PPG player last season.
- Santo_44

Why would SJ trade him?

Very humble..

Not to mention he declared bankruptcy due to his gambling debts. I am sure he is a great guy though.
- rrentz[/img]

I don't care. Coaches and teammates have said he has grown up a lot and the deal he got proves it.

I am sure he gets a kick out of a guy on HB still fuming over an instagram picture he posted years ago.

Why would SJ trade him?
- dmnted

Same reason the Leafs traded Kessel.

Being a bad team with bad contracts and no prospect pool.

Kerfoot+Robertson+2022 2nd for Kane (2M retained)


Maybe?

Same reason the Leafs traded Kessel.

Being a bad team with bad contracts and no prospect pool.
- Santo_44

Maybe if Wilson was going to be fired and a new GM was brought in to rebuild..

Kerfoot+Robertson+2022 2nd for Kane (2M retained)


Maybe?
- Steven_Seagull

Need young players on cheap contracts to have a chance as far as I'm concerned.

Hold on to Robertson, Lilly, Sandin. Hope they can turn into players that play above their contracts instead of trading them for another highly paid forward.