I think it's a big mistake for any Flyers fan to think that there are moves that can be made this off season that will transform the Flyers to true contender status. If anyone is looking for Fletcher to do that, prepare to be disappointed. He can improve the team but to what end. With what future cap implications. Flyers are in very dangerous spot.
- MJL

I would not take the bet that the Flyers can contend, is there a small chance? Yes. Any playoff team can catch lighting in the bottle and make a run.

Keeping in mind Vegas and Tampa will have to look different next year. They played the cap the best you can play it and there will be a price. Other teams beyond them are looking for answers similar to the Flyers. The only team I think has the edge going in is the Av's, but even they have their cap challenges coming. I actually think the competition might level out a little next season. All teams faced with adding the right pieces and the cap.

It would take a perfect storm which is highly unlikely for sure. Make moves that consider the future as well as the present, just good hockey trades. Don't try to solve all the problems before the season. If they are a solid playoff team come the trade deadline, add, if not, sell and reset.

Selling a Sanheim to get a Jones, make him part of that package. Selling a Sanheim to make room for a similar, maybe a little better FA who is older with no upside, pass. You can't solve one problem and not have a solution for the new one created, is no bueno.

A Miles Wood is a player type the Flyers could use. Speed to spare, gritty and can put up some points. Hell I would at least see what NJ wanted for him. He is similar to Coleman with more O, size, younger. Maroon on a 1 year deal I would be ok with, unless someone in camp is that much better or is close and needs the spot.


Seems location means a lot to FA's, meaning West Coast likes to stay on the west etc. Especially when the players are older with a family

Dougie Hamilton checks all the physical requirements but I wonder why he can't stick with anyone long term?

3 years in Boston. 3 in Calgary and for those playing the home version, you guessed it, loos like 3 in Carolina.

Jones is good but IMO he ain't all that. I won't however pitch a fit if they get him. Just hope it's not an overpayment.

I discussed this in an earlier thread.

Hamilton was traded from Boston because they couldnt work out a contract

Flames traded him due to personality fit. It seems they werent fond of hos "Introvert" behaviour. Going to museum alone instead of going to dinner with the team ect

In CAR he is choosing to move on. He's a UFA the team has no reason to allow him to speak with other teams ahead of time. It feels like something they worked out together to be mutually benefitial.

Aside from the Flames situation I havent heard anything bad about Dougie Hamilton. Everyone says he's a nice guy and shy person.

Maybe Attard takes the Wyatt Kalynuk route.
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Ohhhh you had to go there eh? Damn you., I hope not we need a RHD

My guess is that Martinez would not sign with the Flyers for less than 4 years. I also believe he would want to sign with a team ready to contend.
- MJL

I appreciate your guess. Perhaps they shouldnt try to sign him then

A trade is not a good trade if you fill a hole while creating a hole.
- MJL

Well if said trade includes TK and/or Sanheim are you not creating another hole?

I think it's a big mistake for any Flyers fan to think that there are moves that can be made this off season that will transform the Flyers to true contender status. If anyone is looking for Fletcher to do that, prepare to be disappointed. He can improve the team but to what end. With what future cap implications. Flyers are in very dangerous spot.
- MJL

agreed, the best impact this team could have is playing the way they did 18 months ago.

Def go all in on Jones or Hamilton.

Obviously you inquire about Eichel. You would be dumb not to and see if its something you can make work.

Getting the Top D is a much higher priority.

For other FAs Im not a fan of Schwartz. Just never liked him on STL. He alsways seems hurt, his production is as inconsistent as they come. Hoffman I would be a lot more open too.

Well if said trade includes TK and/or Sanheim are you not creating another hole?
- hello it's me 2050

SOme holes are easier to fix than others. If your hole is a RHD, its harder to fix, and would rather a hole at LW or something easier and less impact to fix.

Well if said trade includes TK and/or Sanheim are you not creating another hole?
- hello it's me 2050

Not really. TK is a top 6 forward and Sanheim is a top 4 D. Technically yes you create a hole but its a hole thats much easier to fill. Who do you think is easier to replace:

Sanheim and Konecny or Provorov

I would not take the bet that the Flyers can contend, is there a small chance? Yes. Any playoff team can catch lighting in the bottle and make a run.

Keeping in mind Vegas and Tampa will have to look different next year. They played the cap the best you can play it and there will be a price. Other teams beyond them are looking for answers similar to the Flyers. The only team I think has the edge going in is the Av's, but even they have their cap challenges coming. I actually think the competition might level out a little next season. All teams faced with adding the right pieces and the cap.

It would take a perfect storm which is highly unlikely for sure. Make moves that consider the future as well as the present, just good hockey trades. Don't try to solve all the problems before the season. If they are a solid playoff team come the trade deadline, add, if not, sell and reset.

Selling a Sanheim to get a Jones, make him part of that package. Selling a Sanheim to make room for a similar, maybe a little better FA who is older with no upside, pass. You can't solve one problem and not have a solution for the new one created, is no bueno.

A Miles Wood is a player type the Flyers could use. Speed to spare, gritty and can put up some points. Hell I would at least see what NJ wanted for him. He is similar to Coleman with more O, size, younger. Maroon on a 1 year deal I would be ok with, unless someone in camp is that much better or is close and needs the spot.


Seems location means a lot to FA's, meaning West Coast likes to stay on the west etc. Especially when the players are older with a family
- wcorvette

Wholy! Jones “maybe a little better” than Sanheim?!?

It’s not even close. Sanheim on a good year isn’t anywhere close to Jones on a bad year.

If the Flyers are going to look at UFA forwards, Blake Coleman is a player I would have serious interest in.
- MJL

How serious in terms of $ and term? He is going to get a nice contract from someone.

It's not credible to suggest that a defenseman of Hamilton's caliber would not make the Flyers defense more formidable. He is an impact player.



Feel free to provide the documentation of that.



So he's not the 3rd pair defenseman that you claimed he was in previous conversations? How can we be sure that your analysis of Hamilton as a player is not equally off base?
- MJL

honestly I really didn't pay a lot of attention to Larsson in the past, but got to see a lot of Hamilton in Boston, experienced how he left Boston, and watched him over the years. In the end, are any of us really sure about any of these guys? Its speculation on all our parts. We form opinions on what we see, hear and read and spout them out. In the end, if you think Hamilton is worth $9M over 7 or 8 years and he is the answer to all the Flyers issues, that's fine. I happen to think the Flyers can spend that money better elsewhere.

Regarding documentation, I suggest you go to NBC sports Boston or the Felger&Mazz 98.5 sports hub site and listen to yesterday's show as an example.

Not really. TK is a top 6 forward and Sanheim is a top 4 D. Technically yes you create a hole but its a hole thats much easier to fill. Who do you think is easier to replace:

Sanheim and Konecny or Provorov
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I say I can get a LHD who can eat 20 minutes alot easier than a #1 rhd.

Not really. TK is a top 6 forward and Sanheim is a top 4 D. Technically yes you create a hole but its a hole thats much easier to fill. Who do you think is easier to replace:

Sanheim and Konecny or Provorov
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You are creating a hole. Doesn't matter if it is "easier" to fill. He is the one who said it not me.

Like I said they are all virtually the same players. Yes, everyone does a little something differently but all are basically the same. Schwartz would be a disastrous signing.
- Fopa21

You said that, but you are wrong. Just the speed element alone -- and Schwartz is not a one-trick pony -- would be an upgrade. He's a smart, skilled player. Also, if TK is moved in a trade for a defenseman, there's a spot available.

I agree that the Flyers need a little more size and grit in the mix but, ultimately, they need to upgrade multiple areas.

Wholy! Jones “maybe a little better” than Sanheim?!?

It’s not even close. Sanheim on a good year isn’t anywhere close to Jones on a bad year.
- Fopa21

never said that

You said that, but you are wrong. Just the speed element alone -- and Schwartz is not a one-trick pony -- would be an upgrade. He's a smart, skilled player. Also, if TK is moved in a trade for a defenseman, there's a spot available.

I agree that the Flyers need a little more size and grit in the mix but, ultimately, they need to upgrade multiple areas.
- bmeltzer

The Flyers need to significantly upgrade speed, skill and toughness. Saad and or Schwartz would upgrade the first two for sure.

You said that, but you are wrong. Just the speed element alone -- and Schwartz is not a one-trick pony -- would be an upgrade. He's a smart, skilled player. Also, if TK is moved in a trade for a defenseman, there's a spot available.

I agree that the Flyers need a little more size and grit in the mix but, ultimately, they need to upgrade multiple areas.
- bmeltzer

speed is a huge need, right contract Schwartz is a good fit, plus when you win a cup you have to have some grit.

You said that, but you are wrong. Just the speed element alone -- and Schwartz is not a one-trick pony -- would be an upgrade. He's a smart, skilled player. Also, if TK is moved in a trade for a defenseman, there's a spot available.

I agree that the Flyers need a little more size and grit in the mix but, ultimately, they need to upgrade multiple areas.
- bmeltzer

Do you get any sense Corporate Flyers want the marque name like an Eichel preferably over Jones?

The Flyers need to significantly upgrade speed, skill and toughness. Saad and or Schwartz would upgrade the first two for sure.
- jd250

like Saad, watching him play in the PO he seemed faster then I remembered. Is he really fast or just below Tk fast

It's unfortunate the corporate fat cats above Fletcher feel otherwise. I feel one of those "make a big move for the sake of making a big move" is coming.
- Pelle31Forever

In fairness to Fletcher he hasn't said anything or made any guarantees. In fact, when asked what makes him think he can get upgrades this off season given he was not able to last off season, Fletcher's response was very non-committal.

The Flyers need to significantly upgrade speed, skill and toughness. Saad and or Schwartz would upgrade the first two for sure.
- jd250

Saad would fit what the flyers need. His money will be the issue though. Schwartz would not be part of the solution. G, TK, Farabee, Frost, Schwartz all very similar & to easy to defend with just a mediocre big defenseman. You’re talking almost two full lines of small nerdy forwards. Not winning many game like that.

Def go all in on Jones or Hamilton.

Obviously you inquire about Eichel. You would be dumb not to and see if its something you can make work.

Getting the Top D is a much higher priority.

For other FAs Im not a fan of Schwartz. Just never liked him on STL. He alsways seems hurt, his production is as inconsistent as they come. Hoffman I would be a lot more open too.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

We need to get Eichel out of our brains, you just don't win with players like this. Plus he is signed at $10M for like forever! Its really bad business to commit to one player like this, unless his name is Mario, Wayne or Sid!

We need to get Eichel out of our brains, you just don't win with players like this. Plus he is signed at $10M for like forever! Its really bad business to commit to one player like this, unless his name is Mario, Wayne or Sid!
- jd250

Can you elaborate what you mean by players like this?

Can you elaborate what you mean by players like this?
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high priced skill players that quit on their teams